2009-10-07T00:56:12 *** mck9 has left #evergreen 2009-10-07T01:15:46 *** atz has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T02:01:52 *** [1]atz has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T02:10:35 *** atz has quit IRC 2009-10-07T02:10:35 *** [1]atz is now known as atz 2009-10-07T04:48:21 *** eguest309 has joined #Evergreen 2009-10-07T05:48:15 *** brendan_ga has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T07:58:19 *** mck9 has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T08:13:22 *** gdunbar has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T08:17:20 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2009-10-07T08:35:23 *** brendan_ga has quit IRC 2009-10-07T08:36:59 *** brendan_ga has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T08:37:22 *** brendan_ga has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T08:38:16 *** kgs has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T08:53:06 *** gmcharlt has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T09:04:44 *** dbs has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T09:11:28 I sent an email to the guy who had registered http://launchpad.net/evergreen (for translations) to ask him if he would be willing to transfer that project to us, in the event that we moved to launchpad 2009-10-07T09:11:58 and he could obviously be part of the Translation team... so we'll see what happens there 2009-10-07T09:14:51 dbs hopefully he is part of the team or releases it...was registered Jan this year, too bad Launchpad doesn't release empty projects after a set time. Or does it? 2009-10-07T09:15:17 *** brendan_ga has quit IRC 2009-10-07T09:15:22 moodaepo: well, I just sent the email last night, so I'm sure he'll understand and it won't be a problem 2009-10-07T09:15:50 * dbs was excited to see somebody interested in contributing a pt-BR translation 2009-10-07T09:17:32 I signed up to the demo translation you setup and was planning on porting known phrases from other systems which I know have translations...haven't gotten around to starting : ) 2009-10-07T09:18:13 moodaepo: cool, that's actually a huge advantage of launchpad - you get access to all of the translations of every other project hosted there 2009-10-07T09:20:26 yea I remember using it to put together a not-so-great german translation for our vufind setup 2009-10-07T09:21:53 dbs: the only thing that mildly bothers me about launchpad is that we won't be able to backup the data right off the bat until Canoncial finishes putting together the rest of the APIs 2009-10-07T09:21:59 *** brendan_ga has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T09:22:37 gmcharlt: ping? 2009-10-07T09:22:53 need to chat with you pretty urgently if possible! 2009-10-07T09:22:54 in any event, if we go with it, I think somebody (or several somebodies) should make a point of maintaining a backup 2009-10-07T09:22:59 mrpeters-isl: pong 2009-10-07T09:23:08 gmcharlt: could you give me a call at 317-234-2128 2009-10-07T09:35:36 moodaepo: heh, I can see that, particularly if you're not a native german speaker - lots of possibilities to grab the wrong translation for ambiguous words / phases like "fine" or "charge" 2009-10-07T09:35:53 Evergreen - it's ELECTRIC 2009-10-07T09:36:56 gmcharlt: yes, that is a concern for the non-code bits. in a worst case scenario we could httrack the web site (ugh) 2009-10-07T09:55:25 *** natschil has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T09:57:01 *** mrpeters-isl has quit IRC 2009-10-07T09:57:06 *** mrpeters-isl has joined #Evergreen 2009-10-07T10:10:00 *** tel has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T10:12:01 *** meliss has joined #Evergreen 2009-10-07T10:12:26 *** meliss has quit IRC 2009-10-07T10:22:26 *** meliss has joined #Evergreen 2009-10-07T10:23:42 *** meliss has joined #Evergreen 2009-10-07T10:27:33 *** eguest309_ has joined #Evergreen 2009-10-07T10:28:56 *** meliss has quit IRC 2009-10-07T10:31:53 *** eguest309 has quit IRC 2009-10-07T10:32:18 *** eguest309_ is now known as eguest309 2009-10-07T10:35:20 *** meliss has joined #Evergreen 2009-10-07T10:49:37 dbs How tech do you think you'll get in your FOSS presentation? Also do you know if they are going to be broadcasting on the internet-waves? 2009-10-07T10:50:33 s/FOSS/FSOSS/ 2009-10-07T10:50:41 moodaepo: the workshop? it'll be hands-on coding. they recorded last years FSOSS presentations, but I've never seen them released anywhere 2009-10-07T10:50:55 ah nice... 2009-10-07T10:51:10 moodaepo: the presentation that I'm giving on the next day will be more about the Conifer project lessons learned 2009-10-07T10:51:48 there was some interest here to go but we found out a bit too late...I'll have to see if we can make it in Jan 2009-10-07T10:52:05 moodaepo: heh, I found out too late too :) 2009-10-07T10:52:39 Since we are in Minnesota it might be a tad bit warmer...hope you get to go do the workshop in California : ) 2009-10-07T10:53:42 hah, I suspect lori didn't mean to post that to the list :) my fees are outrageous: ONE BILLION DOLLARS 2009-10-07T10:54:03 HAH and it doesn't seem like they want a tech workshop 2009-10-07T10:54:04 people would be far better off with miker_ or berick or phasefx at the wheel 2009-10-07T10:54:38 is #evergreen the new #openils-evergreen? 2009-10-07T10:54:55 true true but I'd be interested in a non-vendor view, even though we do love the good peeps at equinox 2009-10-07T10:55:11 natschil yes sir! 2009-10-07T10:55:23 natschil: yep, the channel name went on a diet 2009-10-07T10:55:40 dbs I think we did have a phone chat with you a few months ago, I was so new I kept silent the whole time 2009-10-07T10:55:40 dbs: any other reasons for the switch? 2009-10-07T10:56:23 natschil: pinesol was announcing svn commits here, although s/he seems to have been silent recently. hrm. 2009-10-07T10:57:13 pinesol: hello 2009-10-07T10:57:20 pinesol`: help 2009-10-07T10:57:20 dbs: (help [] []) -- This command gives a useful description of what does. is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. 2009-10-07T10:57:24 pinesol`: list 2009-10-07T10:57:24 dbs: Admin, Channel, ChannelLogger, Config, Games, Herald, Karma, Later, Math, Misc, Note, Owner, Praise, Quote, Reply, Seen, Todo, and User 2009-10-07T10:57:40 pinesol`: help misc 2009-10-07T10:57:40 dbs: Error: There is no command "misc". 2009-10-07T10:57:45 pinesol`: list misc 2009-10-07T10:57:45 dbs: apropos, help, last, list, more, ping, source, tell, and version 2009-10-07T10:59:58 why is pinesol sometimes called pinesol and sometimes pinesol`? 2009-10-07T11:00:15 two different instances of it, perhaps? not sure 2009-10-07T11:13:02 netsplit probably made that happen 2009-10-07T11:13:59 *** pinesol has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T11:23:57 @list 2009-10-07T11:23:57 dbs: Admin, Channel, ChannelLogger, Config, Games, Herald, Karma, Later, Math, Misc, Note, Owner, Praise, Quote, Reply, Seen, Todo, and User 2009-10-07T11:24:01 @help rss 2009-10-07T11:24:01 dbs: Error: There is no command "rss". 2009-10-07T11:24:06 meh 2009-10-07T11:37:19 *** artunit_ has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T11:50:34 *** eguest309 has left #Evergreen 2009-10-07T11:55:51 *** artunit has quit IRC 2009-10-07T12:28:50 *** artunit has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T12:36:25 *** artunit_ has quit IRC 2009-10-07T12:56:04 Out of curiosity, does anyone know if you can log in with a single staff user account to handle circulation at multiple workstations at the same time without breaking things? 2009-10-07T12:58:50 Or would it be more appropriate to create multiple circulating staff user accounts to handle the task? 2009-10-07T13:03:54 tel: i dont think that would be a problem 2009-10-07T13:04:05 as long as the workstations have unique names 2009-10-07T13:04:13 we have this happen all of the time in indiana 2009-10-07T13:04:34 for examlple, an entire library may be logged on 4 times with the same circ2 login 2009-10-07T13:04:40 each at unique workstations 2009-10-07T13:06:19 mrpeters-isl: Thanks, that's how we hoped it would work. 2009-10-07T13:07:59 no problem! 2009-10-07T13:10:40 hrm, it's somewhat looking like adding a record with multiple localized URIs may not work; might need to add them one at a time. 2009-10-07T13:10:46 * dbs needs to test this more 2009-10-07T13:32:22 *** bradl has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T13:43:41 hrmm, I'm not sure when it started, but my trunk version of EG is saving new bib records (from Create New) where the data biblio.record_entry.marc looks like so <datafield tag="500" ind1="" ind2=""> escaped when it shouldn't be 2009-10-07T13:44:21 s/shouldn't be/hasn't been in the past/ 2009-10-07T13:44:34 causing a bre retrieval method to fail 2009-10-07T13:44:35 whee! I think there was some chatter about escaping issues yesterday 2009-10-07T13:45:08 so hopefully it only cropped up in the last day or so 2009-10-07T13:45:20 * phasefx_ remembers, thought that was just supercat stuff 2009-10-07T13:46:26 *** brendan_ga has quit IRC 2009-10-07T13:49:24 it's not open-ils.cat.biblio.marc_template.retrieve 2009-10-07T13:49:47 must be open-ils.cat.biblio.record.xml.import 2009-10-07T13:51:38 phasefx: hmm, I wouldn't have expected the patch I committed yesterday to result in that... 2009-10-07T13:52:13 ohh - except I did augment the entityize() method to escape angle brackets 2009-10-07T13:53:13 and it looks like the method does use entityize 2009-10-07T13:53:25 right, lots of things do. Okay, I'll revert that piece. 2009-10-07T13:54:05 would it be horrible to give it an extra argument to tweak the behavior, or have another similarly named function to use? 2009-10-07T13:54:54 not too many occurances it looks like 2009-10-07T13:57:45 phasefx: rolled that back to get everything else working again; will take another stab at fixing marcxml-full output 2009-10-07T13:58:03 gracias sen~or 2009-10-07T14:00:16 definitely fixed it 2009-10-07T14:13:58 *** jamesrf has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T14:19:26 *** brendan_ga has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T14:27:49 can pcrud make .authoritative like calls? 2009-10-07T14:28:47 I'm going to make open-ils.circ.hold_notification.retrieve_by_hold support .authoritative, looks like it's implemented with cstore, so that should work 2009-10-07T14:31:25 *** gmcharlt_ has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T14:31:45 *** r123 has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T14:32:14 *** natschil has quit IRC 2009-10-07T14:35:59 phasefx_: pcrud would make authoritative calls by starting a transaction 2009-10-07T14:36:10 ah, that's right 2009-10-07T14:36:18 thank ye! 2009-10-07T14:46:26 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2009-10-07T14:51:37 huh, looks like the marcxml-full problem was fixed when I escaped the label & shortname early on in ::acn. maybe my testing was retrieving cached results 2009-10-07T14:52:43 atz++ # for the favicon.ico suggestion 2009-10-07T14:53:37 just noticed it on my test server and it looks nicer than null :) 2009-10-07T14:54:03 *** gmcharlt_ is now known as gmcharlt 2009-10-07T14:55:45 does pcrud.create() need to be in a transaction or does it handle that on its own? 2009-10-07T14:56:29 I can see this happening in my logs: open-ils.pcrud: Insert SQL [INSERT INTO action.hold_request_note (id,hold,title,body,slip,pub,staff) VALUES (DEFAULT,1,'ntest1','ntest1','f','f','t');] 2009-10-07T14:56:40 but nothing happens in the table, and I don't see a rollback or anything 2009-10-07T14:57:06 strangely, this was working before, and I don't think I've changed anything 2009-10-07T14:57:54 g.pcrud.create(note, { onerror: function(r) { alert('onerror: ' + r); }, oncomplete: function(r) { alert('oncomplete: ' + r); } }); none of those callbacks seem to fire 2009-10-07T14:58:30 before that comes g.pcrud = new openils.PermaCrud({authtoken :ses()}); 2009-10-07T14:58:51 create handles the xact for you, IIR. phasefx_, no other errors in the osrfsys log? 2009-10-07T14:59:12 no errors at all 2009-10-07T15:00:40 seeing a transaction begin in the activity log (or via grep ACT)? 2009-10-07T15:00:57 if there was no xact, though, it would log an error 2009-10-07T15:01:25 making things pristine, sec 2009-10-07T15:01:37 * dbs goes to peek at rdetails.js to look at his code 2009-10-07T15:02:29 there are no transactions in openils.PermaCrud, if I recall correctly 2009-10-07T15:03:53 *** [1]atz has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T15:04:28 or, well, every pcrud action is an atomic transaction 2009-10-07T15:04:43 osrfsys.log:[2009-10-07 15:03:52] open-ils.actor [ERR :6698:EX.pm:66:125494219766862] Exception: OpenSRF::EX::ERROR 2009-10-07T15:03:52 OpenILS::Utils::CStoreEditor /openils/lib/perl5/OpenILS/Utils/CStoreEditor.pm:349 System ERROR: CStore connection timed out - transaction cannot continue 2009-10-07T15:05:34 looks like that is something else 2009-10-07T15:05:54 * dbs better work all these details out and write them down before that workshop 2009-10-07T15:05:54 *** atz has quit IRC 2009-10-07T15:05:55 *** [1]atz is now known as atz 2009-10-07T15:10:44 did we work out a time for an IRC developer meeting next week? I think we still needed to pin miker_ and mck9 down, at the very least 2009-10-07T15:11:11 dbs: we did not 2009-10-07T15:13:04 dbs, berick: FWIW, my time is pretty much unconstrained. Any time for a meeting is fine, preferably with adequate notice. 2009-10-07T15:13:07 berick: there is a transaction.begin happening, but nothing explicitly closing it, as far as I can tell 2009-10-07T15:14:09 *** atz has quit IRC 2009-10-07T15:14:51 *** atz has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T15:16:37 phasefx_: sounds like the create call is not returning a value PermaCrud.js is expecting, preventing the commit from happening. i wonder if it's a permission problem. are you logged in as admin? 2009-10-07T15:16:47 admin, yes 2009-10-07T15:16:51 hmm 2009-10-07T15:17:06 may have to dig into PermaCrud.js to see what value it's getting in response to the create call 2009-10-07T15:17:14 "Postprocessing method open-ils.pcrud.create.ahrn with retcode 0" 2009-10-07T15:17:36 phasefx_: does your admin have a work_ou ? 2009-10-07T15:18:03 she does 2009-10-07T15:18:11 * phasefx_ :D 2009-10-07T15:20:10 *** jeff has quit IRC 2009-10-07T15:24:38 phasefx_: is pcrud sending a valid authtoken? 2009-10-07T15:25:15 yes 2009-10-07T15:26:12 you can examine the behavior on a local machine see if it works? Create Note in Hold Details in any xul hold interface 2009-10-07T15:26:38 rather, hold interface -> Detail View -> Add Note 2009-10-07T15:28:10 * berick tries 2009-10-07T15:31:18 phasefx_: heh, of course, worked for me 2009-10-07T15:31:21 * phasefx_ was worried about the multiple magic http calls for begin; work; commit; being brittle. Could be his chaos powers 2009-10-07T15:31:38 chaos powers it is, thanks! 2009-10-07T15:53:23 *** meliss has quit IRC 2009-10-07T15:56:21 *** tel has quit IRC 2009-10-07T16:09:22 hmm, looks like we would benefit from having the option of displaying an MFHD-specific set of fixed fields in the MARC editor, 'cause that new leader I committed looks like garbage 2009-10-07T16:09:38 * dbs throws it on the pile of to-dos 2009-10-07T16:12:16 *** jamesrf has quit IRC 2009-10-07T16:22:29 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2009-10-07T16:25:12 berick++ # that must have been lots of "fun" to debug (IE @ title bug) 2009-10-07T16:26:44 "fun" 2009-10-07T16:31:11 dbs: do you want to backport the remaining bits of http://svn.open-ils.org/trac/ILS/changeset/14283 ? 2009-10-07T16:31:30 miker_: yep, was just going to do that now that I've tested things out a bit more 2009-10-07T16:31:37 dbs++ 2009-10-07T16:32:03 miker_: are you good for an IRC meeting next week? 2009-10-07T16:35:11 dbs: yep ... I'm less constrained than berick, so whenever he's free 2009-10-07T16:36:08 groovy 2009-10-07T16:49:13 *** dbs has quit IRC 2009-10-07T16:57:24 *** gmcharlt has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T16:57:50 *** gdunbar has quit IRC 2009-10-07T17:21:33 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2009-10-07T17:31:02 *** eguest309_ has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T17:56:50 *** eguest309_ has quit IRC 2009-10-07T18:26:27 *** eguest309_ has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T18:33:21 i was able to install postgresql in ubuntu jaunty using aptitude 2009-10-07T18:33:32 it howeer installed 8.3 2009-10-07T18:33:37 would that be a problem 2009-10-07T18:33:50 i am trying to install evergreen 1.4.0.6 2009-10-07T18:47:36 *** eguest309_ has quit IRC 2009-10-07T20:39:21 *** kgs has quit IRC 2009-10-07T20:47:26 *** gmcharlt has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T21:36:08 *** atz has quit IRC 2009-10-07T21:36:49 *** atz has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T22:17:59 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2009-10-07T23:00:05 *** atz has quit IRC 2009-10-07T23:00:47 *** atz has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T23:26:14 *** gmcharlt has joined #evergreen 2009-10-07T23:32:15 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2009-10-07T23:36:06 *** gmcharlt has joined #evergreen