2009-10-21T00:07:31 *** bshum has joined #evergreen 2009-10-21T00:11:40 *** bshum has quit IRC 2009-10-21T00:40:15 Alt+--3 2009-10-21T00:40:16 Alt+--3 2009-10-21T00:40:23 the cache clear shuffle 2009-10-21T00:48:41 *** mck9 has left #evergreen 2009-10-21T00:59:03 *** jamesrf has left #evergreen 2009-10-21T01:29:07 *** alxp has quit IRC 2009-10-21T01:41:24 *** atz has quit IRC 2009-10-21T01:42:05 *** atz has joined #evergreen 2009-10-21T03:26:38 noticed this way after the fact, but I'll try to reproduce it later (pretty sure it was importing the first harry potter hit from biblios via z39.50): 2009-10-21T03:26:41 ERROR: cannot EXECUTE a null querystring 2009-10-21T03:26:44 CONTEXT: PL/pgSQL function "oils_tsearch2" line 17 at execute statement 2009-10-21T03:26:46 STATEMENT: INSERT INTO metabib.keyword_field_entry (field,id,source,value) VALUES (15,DEFAULT,1,'jk. rowling''s harry potter novels a reader''s guide nel, philip 1969- creator text bibliography eng print 96 p. ; 19 cm. philip nel. includ 2009-10-21T03:26:50 es bibliographical references (p. [86]-96). e-uk-en rowling, j. k characters potter, harry (fictitious character) children''s stories, english history and criticism fantasy fiction, english books and reading english-speaking countries wiz 2009-10-21T03:26:54 ards in literature magic in literature pr6068o93 z79 2001 823/.914 continuum contemporaries 0826452329 (pbk. : alk. paper) 2001032579 dlc 010523 200910201628330 3166192'); 2009-10-21T03:28:30 trunk, of course 2009-10-21T04:39:02 *** eguest309 has joined #Evergreen 2009-10-21T05:19:14 *** StephenGWills has joined #evergreen 2009-10-21T06:25:42 *** steve__ has joined #evergreen 2009-10-21T06:29:05 *** StephenGWills has quit IRC 2009-10-21T06:29:41 *** steve__ is now known as StephenGWills 2009-10-21T06:59:06 *** StephenGWills has left #evergreen 2009-10-21T07:58:22 *** mck9 has joined #evergreen 2009-10-21T08:10:15 *** kbeswick has joined #evergreen 2009-10-21T08:22:51 *** gmcharlt has joined #evergreen 2009-10-21T08:50:25 *** senator has joined #Evergreen 2009-10-21T08:56:52 *** jtgorman has joined #evergreen 2009-10-21T09:41:08 *** [1]atz has joined #evergreen 2009-10-21T09:43:10 *** [1]atz has joined #evergreen 2009-10-21T09:49:52 *** atz has quit IRC 2009-10-21T09:49:53 *** [1]atz is now known as atz 2009-10-21T10:02:19 *** [1]atz has joined #evergreen 2009-10-21T10:02:49 *** dbs has joined #evergreen 2009-10-21T10:03:11 kbeswick: see example dupe removal in DELETE stmts in http://svn.open-ils.org/trac/ILS-Contrib/browser/conifer/trunk/tools/migration-scripts/windsor_patrons.sql 2009-10-21T10:04:06 approach generalized in http://www.postgresonline.com/journal/index.php?/archives/22-Deleting-Duplicate-Records-in-a-Table.html 2009-10-21T10:27:37 *** atz has quit IRC 2009-10-21T10:27:38 *** [1]atz is now known as atz 2009-10-21T10:35:16 *** r123 has joined #evergreen 2009-10-21T10:38:11 got this error while running clark-ken.pl as the root user .i used sudo and i added all the environmental variables that is perl5lib and the /openil/bin part 2009-10-21T10:38:13 Can't locate OpenILS/Reporter/SQLBuilder.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /lib/perl5 /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /openils/bin/clark-kent.pl line 21. 2009-10-21T10:38:14 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /openils/bin/clark-kent.pl line 21. 2009-10-21T10:39:01 eguest309: . ./bashrc 2009-10-21T10:39:20 because the @INC shows that /openils/lib/perl5 actually isn't part of your env 2009-10-21T10:40:42 i howerver added it as part of the command i did a PERL5LIB=${PERL5LIB}:/OPENILS/LIB/PERL5 IN THE -c 2009-10-21T10:40:51 in small caps of cours 2009-10-21T10:41:23 PERL5LIB=$PERL5LIB:/openils/lib/perl5 clark-kent.pl 2009-10-21T10:41:39 yes 2009-10-21T10:44:46 let's take sudo out of the mix 2009-10-21T10:44:58 can you just run the command when you become the "opensrf" user? 2009-10-21T10:45:05 yes 2009-10-21T10:45:24 i should use su -c ? 2009-10-21T10:45:25 so then the problem is with how you're invoking the sudo command - this is for your startup scripts? 2009-10-21T10:45:30 yes 2009-10-21T10:45:50 * dbs sighs - on one of my virtual machines I solved the problem ages ago 2009-10-21T10:46:19 running it on a virtual machine too over here 2009-10-21T10:46:49 but i was thinking about using su -c ? 2009-10-21T10:47:00 eguest309: can you paste the exact command, without retyping it, that you're issuing? 2009-10-21T10:47:26 sure give me a minute 2009-10-21T10:48:41 "sudo -u opensrf PERL5LIB=$PERL5LIB:/openils/lib/perl5 /openils/bin/clark-kent.pl" works here (as root) 2009-10-21T10:49:33 miker_: score one for you on the nginx front. dynamic catalogue was working great, but supercat is screwing me over because of the virtual host 2009-10-21T10:50:19 i am coming .give me a minute 2009-10-21T10:50:34 dbs: I have some vauge concern about the added content, too ... may not be an issue 2009-10-21T10:52:15 yep, you're right, AC is a bit wonky too. there would have to be a lot of teaching done to various methods to tell them to check for some HTTP header and use that as the host/port for generated links 2009-10-21T10:53:14 eguest309 pasted "clark-kent" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/89046 2009-10-21T10:53:26 i just pasted it 2009-10-21T10:54:30 oh, trunk-trackers, I found the cause of the ingest failure post-in-db-normalizers, I think... new upgrade chunk coming RSN 2009-10-21T10:55:46 miker_++ # yay 2009-10-21T10:56:53 any ideas regarding the scripts 2009-10-21T10:58:07 assuming osrf_ctl.sh works, you have "bash" instead of "/bin/bash" in the clark-kent.pl 2009-10-21T10:58:25 oh 2009-10-21T10:58:45 you're single-quoting the arguments, which means they won't be expanded (I think) 2009-10-21T10:59:18 so i should double quote the arguement and add /bin/bash 2009-10-21T10:59:49 the bash thing probably isn't a problem, but I'm pretty sure the single-quoting is 2009-10-21T11:00:10 okay.never occured to me 2009-10-21T11:00:21 shell scripting is quite sensitive 2009-10-21T11:02:45 worked 2009-10-21T11:03:20 it would have never occured to me 2009-10-21T11:03:30 *** natschil has joined #evergreen 2009-10-21T11:06:00 Hello. I'm trying to connect to both the private *and* the public opensrf domains at the same time from the same application using c. After looking around a little bit, it seems like the two objects that determine which router I need to connect to are osrfConfigDefault, defined in osrfConfig.c and osrfGlobalTransportClient, defined in osrf_system.c . Does anyone know whether this is correct? 2009-10-21T11:06:39 also, as those are both defined as "static" it might be necessary for me to add accessor methods to them somewhere in the source files, right? 2009-10-21T11:06:51 no idea about that :) 2009-10-21T11:08:02 *** mrpeters-isl_ has joined #Evergreen 2009-10-21T11:08:27 all, i need the Google Books API removed from the Craftsman skin we have in place ASAP as it is putting us in violation of state laws. How can I get this removed? 2009-10-21T11:08:43 we were not aware this was enabled and I need a quick fix for removing it 2009-10-21T11:10:01 mrpeters-isl_: are you sure it violates state laws? 2009-10-21T11:10:15 natschil: yes, it must be removed on the Evergreen Indiana servers immediately 2009-10-21T11:10:30 our attorney feels we cannot use it since it promotes sales to vendors with which we do not operate 2009-10-21T11:10:35 * natschil looks at the source 2009-10-21T11:11:38 mrpeters-isl_: are you referring to the tab inside the record detail page? 2009-10-21T11:11:41 i am fairly certain i only need to remoev a few lines from opac.dtd but am looking for definite confirmation 2009-10-21T11:11:50 natschil: http://evergreen.lib.in.us/opac/en-US/skin/craftsman/xml/rresult.xml?rt=keyword&tp=keyword&t=nora%20roberts&l=1&d=0&f= 2009-10-21T11:11:57 see "Browse in Google..." links 2009-10-21T11:12:32 mrpeters-isl_: I doubt that. 2009-10-21T11:12:54 mrpeters-isl_: I would look at rdetail_extra.xml first, and see where that leads me. 2009-10-21T11:12:54 I would say web/opac/skin/craftsman/js/rdetail.js and web/opac/skin/craftsman/js/result_common.js are the files to look in for the google books api 2009-10-21T11:13:06 natschil ah right 2009-10-21T11:14:13 mrpeters-isl_: you don't need to remove anything ... there is a boolean setting (in one of the js files) to turn it off 2009-10-21T11:14:29 miker_: yep! just found that...thanks modaepo and miker_ 2009-10-21T11:14:32 sorry, I was leading you the wrong way. 2009-10-21T11:14:51 that's certainly an interesting interpretation, but yep, that's why I gave the boolean 2009-10-21T11:15:16 (sorry, wasn't paying attention to IRC) 2009-10-21T11:15:21 I suppose we are talking about > googleBooksLink = true 2009-10-21T11:15:31 miker_: i set it to false, but still getting google content 2009-10-21T11:15:37 anything else required? 2009-10-21T11:15:40 mrpeters-isl: there's one in rdetails.js 2009-10-21T11:15:46 that's why I thought we should be looking at the js files 2009-10-21T11:16:01 var rdetailGoogleBookPreview = true; 2009-10-21T11:16:11 set that to false in rdetails.js 2009-10-21T11:16:14 ah, it seems i need to edit a couple of them 2009-10-21T11:16:23 result_common.js:var googleBooksLink = true; as well 2009-10-21T11:16:25 yeah ... blame me for the second one :) 2009-10-21T11:16:50 dang, nah that didnt do the trick either 2009-10-21T11:16:53 have them both set to false 2009-10-21T11:17:22 Wonder if this (and other third party api calls) should go into a opac_config.xml file in /conf 2009-10-21T11:17:57 moodaepo: they should 2009-10-21T11:18:02 mrpeters-isl_: your javascript may be cached client-side? 2009-10-21T11:18:12 phasefx_: i am testing that now as well 2009-10-21T11:18:46 cleared cache and tried another browser...still getting Browse in Google Books Search in my results 2009-10-21T11:20:02 mrpeters-isl: most of the skins link back to /skin/default/js/ 2009-10-21T11:20:30 dbs ok, i was editing these in /openils/var/web/opac/skin/craftsman/js 2009-10-21T11:21:33 yeah, in your link the source shows: script language='javascript' type='text/javascript' src='http://evergreen.lib.in.us//opac//skin/default/js/result_common.js' 2009-10-21T11:21:47 *** MikeMc_ has joined #evergreen 2009-10-21T11:21:48 craftsman-- 2009-10-21T11:22:03 dbs I was just going to say > var/web/opac/skin/default/js/result_common.js: 2009-10-21T11:22:28 * dbs lols 2009-10-21T11:22:35 @karma craftsman 2009-10-21T11:22:35 phasefx_: Karma for "craftsman" has been increased 1 time and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 0. 2009-10-21T11:22:41 that did the trick thanks dbs 2009-10-21T11:22:44 dbs/phasefx_: lemme know if 0041 fixes your trunk ingest troubles 2009-10-21T11:22:47 Cansomeone point me to the article on how to check that OpenSrf is up and running. Searching in EG never rturns any hits. Ta. 2009-10-21T11:22:54 miker_: will do so anon 2009-10-21T11:23:05 MikeMc_: try srfsh? 2009-10-21T11:23:21 login admin open-ils (assuming default passwords) 2009-10-21T11:23:33 miker_: interested in a sample record containing two $9 URIs? there seems to be a race condition involving multiple auris in a single record :/ 2009-10-21T11:23:34 *** Dyrcona has joined #Evergreen 2009-10-21T11:23:50 mrpetersNot yet, I'm a real newbie. Just run srfsh at a command prompt? 2009-10-21T11:24:32 MikeMc_ as user opensrf and assuming you followed through the install instructions : ) 2009-10-21T11:24:32 dbs: I can't look ATM ... if you aren't keen on tracking it down then I will throw it on the pile, though 2009-10-21T11:26:58 miker_: yeah, my plan is to log all of the db statements to try and match that to ingest 2009-10-21T11:27:05 11:26 < lisppaste6> phasefx pasted "upgrade script woes for miker" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/89048 2009-10-21T11:27:14 mrpeters-isl_ interestingly on our demo/play setup the Browse Google... links don't show even though the var is set to true > http://egplay.mnpals.net/ (searching for Harry) 2009-10-21T11:27:48 phasefx pasted "test, ignore" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/89049 2009-10-21T11:28:00 phasefx_: that's expected 2009-10-21T11:28:02 ignore 2009-10-21T11:28:30 however, I seem to have forgotten the insert into config.upgrade_log 2009-10-21T11:28:31 doh 2009-10-21T11:28:50 my upgrade_log got updated 2009-10-21T11:28:58 hrm... no, I didn't 2009-10-21T11:28:59 ok 2009-10-21T11:29:10 you selected upgrade_log /before/ doing the update 2009-10-21T11:29:11 k 2009-10-21T11:29:16 OpenSRF looks ok, results good. I also tried the autogen and restart of apache but still Searching hangs 2009-10-21T11:29:46 MikeMc_: the titles you've added have copies? 2009-10-21T11:29:50 MikeMc_: at what part of installing opensrf are you? 2009-10-21T11:30:13 MikeMc_: sorry, I meant at what part of installing evergreen are you? 2009-10-21T11:30:43 phasefx: btw, if you want to start using bzr branches to hold your experiments rather than committing experimental code directly to trunk, the launchpad bzr mirror is alive and well 2009-10-21T11:31:30 still need to figure out what's required to give people permission to create branches, etc, but it's waiting... 2009-10-21T11:32:30 *** Dyrcona has quit IRC 2009-10-21T11:33:24 does anyone know of any GPL projects that also GPL their user documentation? 2009-10-21T11:37:25 phasefx_: some do 2009-10-21T11:37:32 Koha's manual is actually GPL 2009-10-21T11:37:38 and some people have reservations about the FDDL 2009-10-21T11:38:30 cool deal. How about the wiki content; the Koha community is trying to relicense that to GPL as well or something? 2009-10-21T11:39:35 the DIG folks are talking licenses and poked me on it. I'm all for same license as the software to make things simple 2009-10-21T11:40:19 phasefx_: yep, we're also trying to relicense the Koha wiki 2009-10-21T11:40:35 miker_: Noo items for my bibs. Can I only add items for my home branch? I'm logged in as admin? 2009-10-21T11:41:16 miker_: I got the same null querystring error in the postgres logs with that same harry potter record 2009-10-21T11:41:39 gmcharlt: GPL? 2009-10-21T11:41:48 phasefx_: yes 2009-10-21T11:42:29 main rationale for simplicity, being able to distribute it all together, maybe embed within each other as needed, without license conflicts? 2009-10-21T11:44:20 yes, and to allow material from wiki to be included in documentation and materials that a commercial vendor puts together 2009-10-21T11:44:45 thanks man 2009-10-21T11:45:18 among other things, decision was driven by a UK vendor who can't make use of any fair use rights, as apparently the UK doesn't actually have that concept 2009-10-21T11:46:42 yeah, copyright is a funny thing. I think in at least one country you can't put something in the "public domain" and disclaim any responsibility for it 2009-10-21T11:47:20 don't get me started on "moral rights" 2009-10-21T11:47:28 :D 2009-10-21T11:58:06 creative commons is much more clearly applicable to content, in my mind. no language specific to software. short and readable. 2009-10-21T11:59:05 http://sam.zoy.org/wtfpl/ 2009-10-21T12:04:20 *** jtgorman is now known as jtgorman_lunch 2009-10-21T12:04:24 *** jtgorman_lunch is now known as jtgorman 2009-10-21T12:07:24 sboyette: the attribution clause can create practical hangups, though, with content that is communally edited 2009-10-21T12:08:16 *** mrpeters-isl_ has quit IRC 2009-10-21T12:09:41 depending on which creative commons license you're talking about (main reason I don't like Creative Commons.. it's a catch-all). Even the GPL has a CC wrapper 2009-10-21T12:11:55 Ok, I added an item or two, I can only find this record by record id or barcode, not by keyword. Anything else I can check? 2009-10-21T12:14:18 phasefx_: right; CC0 might be an option, but keeping the GPL virality would be a feature 2009-10-21T12:14:32 CC-SA would be another possibility 2009-10-21T12:15:09 CC-NC is right out unless you *want* to fragment documentation written by noncommercial entities vs. that written by vendors 2009-10-21T12:15:33 -BY I'm neutral on 2009-10-21T12:16:17 the definition of non-commercial always seem to be problematic in any case 2009-10-21T12:18:36 yes - I don't think any vendor would expect to ever make money selling EG documentation in any form, but read strictly, CC-NC would preclude even charging to recover the cost of printing manuals on dead tree, for instance 2009-10-21T12:23:00 my favorite is the thought of someone distributing the docs on a site with advertisements. Does that count? 2009-10-21T12:23:42 *** jtgorman is now known as jtgorman_lunch 2009-10-21T12:26:47 phasefx_ Counts the same as gmcharlt puts it charging to recover the cost of printing manuals on dead tree? 2009-10-21T12:27:23 * moodaepo amused that one of our staff people wants me to install Aleph client on OSX 2009-10-21T12:28:21 moodaepo: w/o benefit of BaseCamp or the like? 2009-10-21T12:29:51 gmcharlt huh? 2009-10-21T12:30:48 *** eby_ has quit IRC 2009-10-21T12:31:30 moodaepo: s/BaseCamp/a virtualization product for OS X that actually exists/ ;) 2009-10-21T12:34:19 gmcharlt for some reason I was thinking basecamphq.com : ) 2009-10-21T12:35:07 and then I thought maybe you were talking about licensing 2009-10-21T12:43:16 It's getting late here and I gotta go. Anyone any ideas why my searching produces no results? Thankx. 2009-10-21T12:44:17 MikeMc_: you try searching from within the staff client? 2009-10-21T12:44:56 CC-NC-- 2009-10-21T12:45:12 Yes, only record_id or barcode produces results 2009-10-21T12:46:02 suggestion from bradley kuhn was CC-BY-SA / GPL disjunctive dual license for docs (although the GPL portion was really intended to cover cases where there are significant amounts of code in the docs) 2009-10-21T12:46:12 and with that I jump to a different IP address 2009-10-21T12:46:23 MikeMc_: which version of EG? You may be encountering "ingest" issues. Try retrieving the record however you can, open it in the marc editor, hit save, then search for it again. That'll give us useful info one way or the other 2009-10-21T12:49:02 *** dbs_ has joined #evergreen 2009-10-21T12:49:15 phasefx_: We are on 1_4_0_4 client, tried the Marc Edit and save, still can't find it in keyword searching 2009-10-21T12:50:13 MikeMc_: can you see any entries in metabib.keyword_field_entry? 2009-10-21T12:50:52 * phasefx_ has to take a lunch, but may want to try this in srfsh: request open-ils.ingest open-ils.ingest.full.biblio.record 2009-10-21T12:51:13 *** brendan_ga has quit IRC 2009-10-21T12:55:12 dbs_: Yes, several entries in that table. Tried phasefx_'s suggestion too and no joy 2009-10-21T12:55:43 MikeMc_: are you searching for exactly the same keyword each time? 2009-10-21T12:56:06 try searching for "good_keyword -junkjunkjunk" to avoid cache hit 2009-10-21T12:56:36 dbs_: No, i tried a few of the entries from the title that are in the keyword table 2009-10-21T12:57:12 MikeMc_: hmm, curious 2009-10-21T12:57:24 MikeMc_: can you try the "Basic catalog"? 2009-10-21T12:58:45 does anyone have have a modified default page for hte stafff clients which will open the commonly used functions in evergreen through some links. 2009-10-21T12:59:07 or if i am to want to edit the default page which opens in the staff client what page should i edit? 2009-10-21T12:59:30 *** dbs has quit IRC 2009-10-21T12:59:34 *** dbs_ is now known as dbs 2009-10-21T13:01:04 eguest309 /openils/var/web/xul/server/index.xhtml 2009-10-21T13:01:39 okay 2009-10-21T13:01:40 dbs_: Oops, Basic catalog not working, keeps trapping on any search 2009-10-21T13:03:07 if i should want to create links in the default page which will open circulation,check out,check in, ?which pages reprensnt those various functions? 2009-10-21T13:04:59 *** jamesrf has joined #evergreen 2009-10-21T13:05:41 *** MikeMc_ has quit IRC 2009-10-21T13:08:38 *** jtgorman_lunch is now known as jtgorman 2009-10-21T13:21:11 *** brendan_ga has joined #evergreen 2009-10-21T13:25:06 eguest309: view the source for this for an example, http://evergreen.lib.in.us/xul/server/index.html 2009-10-21T13:25:30 okay thanks 2009-10-21T13:25:54 can i ran the fine_generator script as opensrf or root ? 2009-10-21T13:29:28 *** dbs has quit IRC 2009-10-21T13:29:43 *** dbs has joined #evergreen 2009-10-21T13:30:01 eguest309: I"d suggest opensrf 2009-10-21T13:30:35 okay 2009-10-21T13:31:27 i am setting up the cron jobs for the billing 2009-10-21T13:33:14 wow page is nice 2009-10-21T13:38:04 but the links to the various pages in the staff client 2009-10-21T13:39:52 is there any way of running the staff client in a mode that would enable me to view the various links that each page points to so i can enter in the links if i am to create a custom page or all the pages can be easily seen 2009-10-21T13:40:06 in /openils/var/web/xul 2009-10-21T13:40:32 in /openils/var/web/xul/server 2009-10-21T13:43:34 *** [1]atz has joined #evergreen 2009-10-21T13:44:01 eguest309: best you can do at the moment is use the debug console like so http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=scratchpad:debug_console, and look for lines like creating iframe with src = http://vm103/xul/current/server/util/xuledit.xul 2009-10-21T13:44:15 may be easier to look through menu.js and see how it does things for a given interface 2009-10-21T13:44:51 *** natschil has quit IRC 2009-10-21T13:45:14 and you'll definitely want to use set_tab or new_tab, and not try to load these URL's into your own iframes or windows 2009-10-21T13:45:58 yep.definately have to do that 2009-10-21T13:47:44 *** eby_ has joined #evergreen 2009-10-21T13:49:33 thanks .will look into that and get back at u later 2009-10-21T13:51:18 *** atz has quit IRC 2009-10-21T13:51:19 *** [1]atz is now known as atz 2009-10-21T13:55:23 *** jamesrf has quit IRC 2009-10-21T14:08:13 eguest309 I used the Indiana customization and replaced those icons with proper GPL ones (not sure if they all make sense though) 2009-10-21T14:08:32 http://egplay.mnpals.net/xul/server/index.xhtml 2009-10-21T14:10:09 they do look a bit better in the staff client and I did not resize them physically just via img attributes from 256px down to 48px 2009-10-21T14:11:11 ah, satellite; that must be why z39.50 is so slow :) 2009-10-21T14:14:24 I wonder if Indiana would officially contribute that landing page as the default for Evergreen 2009-10-21T14:14:32 *** eguest309 has left #Evergreen 2009-10-21T14:14:51 phasefx_ : ) 2009-10-21T14:15:12 dbs mrpeters-isl set that up and turns out the icons are not distributable/gpl 2009-10-21T14:15:57 He was nice enough to sent them to me and I changed them using icons from the WP WooThemes Ultimate Icon Set > http://www.woothemes.com/freebies/ 2009-10-21T14:15:57 moodaepo: right, I know mrpeters-isl put it together, but we could put dummy icons in place until we found something better - yeah? 2009-10-21T14:16:11 xand "find something better" should be pretty trivial 2009-10-21T14:16:12 dbs: mrpeters-isl said yes when I asked; my only concern was the images. He offered to redo those (has a background in graphic design) 2009-10-21T14:16:50 Do we want to use the ones I am using for now. satellite and all I think these icons work (for now) 2009-10-21T14:16:53 mrpeters-isl++ 2009-10-21T14:17:18 heck I'm sure we could throw this into 1.6 before this weeks release 2009-10-21T14:17:31 s/weeks/week's/ 2009-10-21T14:18:00 * phasefx_ doesn't actually like those alternate icons :D sorry 2009-10-21T14:19:36 phasefx_ I just threw those on temporarily till I could make/find other 'better' GPL ones, any suggestions? Anyone? 2009-10-21T14:21:20 we'll want to do something different the helpdesk link too, for a public version 2009-10-21T14:21:45 *** eby_ has quit IRC 2009-10-21T14:24:39 phasefx: right, right 2009-10-21T14:25:08 *** eby_ has joined #evergreen 2009-10-21T14:26:07 phasefx_ dbs how about you tell me which icons don't fit and I can replace those 2009-10-21T14:27:24 *** jamesrf has joined #evergreen 2009-10-21T14:27:28 take my opinion with a grain of salt. I'm not a graphics designer, despite having been shoe-horned into GUI work many years ago :) 2009-10-21T14:30:01 moodaepo: I think that would be a fine start, but "Important: You must link to this article when sharing the Icons, you must not upload these files anywhere else." is a bit weird 2009-10-21T14:30:17 (http://www.woothemes.com/2009/08/free-hand-drawn-web-icons-set/#download) 2009-10-21T14:30:38 Nope no heartache here : ) I think we can say we know good design not necessarily we are good or even ok designers 2009-10-21T14:30:42 same for the ultimate icons 2009-10-21T14:31:04 dbs yea I looked at that and then they have weird verbage other places 2009-10-21T14:31:30 I was thinking we could credit them on the downloads page 2009-10-21T14:31:35 despite being GPLed, which doesn't let you place additional restrictions on redistribution - meaning that the GPL does not apply 2009-10-21T14:31:44 there's also the button bar icons to consider in 1.6. May want to mesh things with or replace those. One Equinox customer wants to expand that button bar and has graphics folks who can do icons 2009-10-21T14:31:45 it's enough for me not to want to go near them 2009-10-21T14:31:54 Of course I'm not sure can such requirements be made when the GPL it? 2009-10-21T14:32:18 s/the/they/ 2009-10-21T14:32:25 *** eby_ has quit IRC 2009-10-21T14:33:02 most "free" icon sites won't work as far as licensing goes, I fear 2009-10-21T14:34:53 "If you cannot distribute so as to satisfy simultaneously your obligations under this License and any other pertinent obligations, then as a consequence you may not distribute the Program at all." 2009-10-21T14:35:06 clause 7 of the GPL: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.html 2009-10-21T14:35:21 Unless they explicitly state what kind of "Free" I thought the Woo ones came close but I do agree with dbs their verbiage wants me to stay away. 2009-10-21T14:35:42 dbs That's what I thought I'll shoot them an email and see. 2009-10-21T14:37:19 so - I think we would each be able to download the icons and use them, but we wouldn't be able to redistribute as part of the EG tarball because we can't comply with the terms of the GPL that would enable others to redistribute it freely 2009-10-21T14:37:33 I am (thankfully) not a lawyer :) 2009-10-21T14:37:45 moodaepo: sounds like a reasonable course of action 2009-10-21T14:38:57 moodaepo++ # and if something can't be distributed in the main tarball, it isn't worth the effort IMO to create special packaging unless somebody wants to take the time to package it as a contrib 2009-10-21T14:41:16 gmcharlt: contrib makes sense - just post the index page itself, with instructions to download the pertinent icons from w00tcons or wherever 2009-10-21T14:41:19 gmcharlt++ 2009-10-21T15:06:07 *** finnx has joined #Evergreen 2009-10-21T15:19:36 *** phase_bb has joined #evergreen 2009-10-21T15:23:00 *** atheos has quit IRC 2009-10-21T15:23:43 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2009-10-21T15:33:45 *** gmcharlt has joined #evergreen 2009-10-21T15:34:48 *** atheos has joined #Evergreen 2009-10-21T15:36:02 in circ policies... is User Age: Lower Bound the minimum age to circ the material? 2009-10-21T15:36:33 seems obvious right... but then the value is displayed like time XX:XX:XX 2009-10-21T17:10:25 openils_dojo_layer++ 2009-10-21T17:10:43 * dbs snuck the layer from RC1 into production 2009-10-21T17:26:58 * dbs successfully has trunk running and ingesting - thanks for the fix, miker_ 2009-10-21T17:27:54 *** jtgorman has left #evergreen 2009-10-21T17:47:40 ahhh, and the conversion of the SFX lookup CGI script to the ResolverResolver OpenSRF service is working (albeit without caching, for the moment) - yayyyyyz 2009-10-21T17:48:13 * gmcharlt is pondering the levels of indirection - a ResolverResolver indeed! ;) 2009-10-21T17:49:13 *** zed2 has left #Evergreen 2009-10-21T18:08:11 *** gdunbar has quit IRC 2009-10-21T18:09:42 and now caching is working... w00t 2009-10-21T18:10:13 gmcharlt: yeah, the idea is that different institutions within a given consortium might be using different resolvers, so... 2009-10-21T18:10:48 yeah, I figured it was there for a good reason, just amused at the name 2009-10-21T18:10:48 I've got SFX working, and tholbroo pointed me at the nice and simple CUFTS XML holdings output, so it would be nice to nail those two down for the proof of concept 2009-10-21T18:11:05 heh, I amuse myself with the name :) 2009-10-21T18:11:30 I'll need to beg someone for some sersol info, though, as one of our partners uses them 2009-10-21T18:12:46 hmm .. http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/108 2009-10-21T18:14:55 fandango. 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