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And I'm sure the response to that example would be "oh, we only want this sort of calculation over certain holidays". 2009-12-11T09:47:07 that's bogus 2009-12-11T09:47:23 dbs: never been asked for that here 2009-12-11T09:47:29 oh, well set a special due date 2009-12-11T09:47:31 "With Evergreen's public library origins, this was not on issue since there was no Xmas recess. But with academic libraries, it is." 2009-12-11T09:47:44 Bogus. 2009-12-11T09:48:13 special due dates aren't sticky between patrons, right? 2009-12-11T09:48:39 * atz has to check 2009-12-11T09:50:34 *** natschil has quit IRC 2009-12-11T09:50:56 alternatively, if we had the ability to have a circ rule set a specific date instead of just apply an interval, then I could change the standard circ rule to a specific date. But we don't have that yet. 2009-12-11T09:51:56 yeah, that was a dev project in the liblime fork of koha when last I left it... called "term due dues" 2009-12-11T09:56:40 dbs: yeah, it looks like the specific due date checkbox and date value are both unsticky 2009-12-11T09:58:18 action.circulation is tied to config.rule_circ_duration, which specifies INTERVAL types. adding a "term due date" is going to be a little rough 2009-12-11T09:59:59 maybe change config.rule_circ_duration into a map that points to other tables, depending on whether it's standard interval, term due date (where we would calculate the interval by term::date() - NOW() ?), or whatever... blueskying, probably stupidly 2009-12-11T10:03:23 dbs: might be sufficient to step it back one level, and just a fixed_due_date column to config.rule_circ_duration 2009-12-11T10:03:33 and allow normal, shrt, and extended to be null 2009-12-11T10:03:41 I'm afraid to ask but, are there any doco's that bridge the circ matrix page on open-ils.org more deeply to the schemas and, conversely, up to copy editor admin/user how to's? 2009-12-11T10:03:43 *** [1]atz has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T10:03:52 with a check constraint that either fixed_due_date is null, or (normal, shrt, extended) are null 2009-12-11T10:04:23 or have you all had to crawl through the code to know what you are currently talking about? 2009-12-11T10:04:29 *** [1]atz has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T10:04:34 it would depend on whether there's actually a "... or whatever" 2009-12-11T10:05:05 * gmcharlt remembers UK short loans, then remembers that there is *always* an "or whatever" :) 2009-12-11T10:05:06 StephenGWills: I like reading SQL schemas 2009-12-11T10:05:55 * StephenGWills hands dbs a pocket protector 2009-12-11T10:05:56 gmcharlt: I think that would be a good path forward - deal with the known knowns first 2009-12-11T10:06:51 StephenGWills: but generally speaking there isn't a good entry point for understanding how all these things tie together - at least, not that I'm aware of. 2009-12-11T10:07:17 *** [2]atz has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T10:07:23 <[2]atz> [10:26] - short stories. 2009-12-11T10:07:25 <[2]atz> [10:26] - You're using freenode, a service of Peer-Directed Projects 2009-12-11T10:07:27 <[2]atz> [10:26] - Center Ltd (http://freenode.net/pdpc.shtml). 2009-12-11T10:07:29 <[2]atz> [10:26] - 2009-12-11T10:07:31 <[2]atz> [10:26] - Thanks to everyone who helped us make the 2008/2009 fundraiser 2009-12-11T10:07:33 <[2]atz> [10:26] - a success, indivdual donors, hardware and bandwith sponsors and 2009-12-11T10:07:34 * dbs lols 2009-12-11T10:07:35 <[2]atz> [10:26] - our corporate sponsor Canonical Ltd (http://www.canonical.com). 2009-12-11T10:07:37 <[2]atz> [10:26] - 2009-12-11T10:07:39 <[2]atz> [10:26] - By connecting to freenode you indicate that you have read 2009-12-11T10:07:41 <[2]atz> [10:26] - and agree to adhere to our policies and procedures as per 2009-12-11T10:07:50 ok. The new spine the DIG is working on gives us a place to hang some of this stuff, it's just hard to glean from the mail list, pgadmin and vi so far :) 2009-12-11T10:07:53 *** [2]atz has left #evergreen 2009-12-11T10:07:55 *** [2]atz has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T10:08:00 makes me feel dumb. :-P 2009-12-11T10:08:20 giving* 2009-12-11T10:08:30 berick: hmm, are we getting to the point of needing a 1.6.0.1 release? We're going to be rolling out SIP2-based self-checks real soon now :) 2009-12-11T10:08:32 <[2]atz> sorry all... my connection is trying extra hard to suck today. 2009-12-11T10:09:33 dbs: i'd say we probably are.. 2009-12-11T10:10:13 *** jenny has quit IRC 2009-12-11T10:11:10 *** jenny has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T10:12:29 possibly with an OpenSRF 1.2.1 release to pull in the Karmic target / support for non-ancient versions of ejabberd 2009-12-11T10:16:00 *nods* 2009-12-11T10:20:25 *** atz has quit IRC 2009-12-11T10:20:26 *** [2]atz is now known as atz 2009-12-11T10:20:42 *** Stuart has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T10:23:29 *** [1]atz has quit IRC 2009-12-11T10:24:56 *** error_23_ has quit IRC 2009-12-11T10:27:09 Hi, well I'm almost there. got everything installed but whe I try to connect via srfsh ie login admin open-ils i get an exception. Output pasted..... 2009-12-11T10:27:11 Stuart pasted "srfsh login" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/91945 2009-12-11T10:27:55 Stuart: login asmin open-ils SHOULD it be login admin open-ils 2009-12-11T10:28:07 typo-dude 2009-12-11T10:30:01 gmcharlt: ah, another "whatever" is "make this thing due 15 minutes before the library closes" 2009-12-11T10:31:06 and yet another is "make it due at the end of the day today, where "end of the day today" = "2 a.m. tomorrow" when the library closes" 2009-12-11T10:31:58 gmcharlt: oh yeah, i love that one. 2009-12-11T10:35:19 gmcharlt has played this game before. 2009-12-11T10:36:34 Unicorn didn't play that game very well. 2009-12-11T10:41:06 we can encode due dates in MFHD ;) 2009-12-11T10:41:52 grab your torch and pitchfork, guys... we'll run 'im out of town! 2009-12-11T10:42:21 phasefx_: I prefer Juilan dates, especially when you have to guess the starting epoch :) 2009-12-11T10:44:01 Yep I saw the typo and have just tried login admin open-ils and got the same result 2009-12-11T10:48:13 moodaepo annotated #91945 "I get this with wrong password [EG_1.6]" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/91945#1 2009-12-11T10:48:19 Stuart: And you haven't changed the password right? 2009-12-11T10:48:44 So I would run through > http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=troubleshooting:checking_for_errors 2009-12-11T10:50:51 correct password is same. Note I have just finished installing as per the instructions on the ils site. This is for 1.4.0.6 2009-12-11T10:51:52 hmm, why 1.4.0.6 instead of 1.4.0.7? 2009-12-11T10:54:30 *** finnx has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T10:55:47 Stuart: Also have you run Open-ILS/src/support-scripts/settings-tester.pl available in your Evergreen folder? 2009-12-11T11:03:23 *** sylvar has quit IRC 2009-12-11T11:03:31 *** sylvar has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T11:12:46 *** gdunbar has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T11:14:01 I ran the settings-tester.pl and got a bunch of database errors....Pasted..The database running according to psql 2009-12-11T11:14:06 Stuart annotated #91945 "untitled" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/91945#2 2009-12-11T11:14:24 check my understanding? v1.4.0.6 - simple case: GROUP_CONFIG is hard coded list in circ_groups.js referenced by circ_lib.js. if a group is missing from this list, no attempt is made to augment it from the database. if I want more groups defined i must hack circ_groups.js. is that right? 2009-12-11T11:14:38 this is true of other circ stuff? 2009-12-11T11:16:20 if so, does 1.6 fix this with an admin, db_fetch etc.? 2009-12-11T11:20:13 phasefx: hmm, trunk OpenSRF + Evergreen attempt to bring up checkout screen results in "Error in summary.js, patron_bill callback: robj.balance_owed is not a function" 2009-12-11T11:21:08 to answer your question...as far as I am aware the is what our consortium is on and I am trying to install a test server. 2009-12-11T11:22:26 dbs: I've seen that in hand with a cstore timeout on the backend. Is that happening in your case? 2009-12-11T11:22:46 *** senator has quit IRC 2009-12-11T11:22:47 phasefx: could be. this is just a little virtual box 2009-12-11T11:22:57 * dbs goes to check 2009-12-11T11:24:22 yep, that's what's happening 2009-12-11T11:24:44 *** senator has joined #Evergreen 2009-12-11T11:26:08 re-retrieving the patron solved it. sorry for the freakout 2009-12-11T11:26:36 wow, that date picker looks like crap on karmic's xul 2009-12-11T11:26:55 *** phasefx4 has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T11:27:04 timepicker looks good though 2009-12-11T11:28:18 * phasefx_ often runs the windows version through wine when on linux. Easier on the eyes :) 2009-12-11T11:28:52 could be karmic's fault too 2009-12-11T11:29:13 * phasefx_ hates without a border 2009-12-11T11:29:31 wow, wlayton++ 2009-12-11T11:31:03 phasefx: you may or may not be amused how the patron summary boxes surrounding "Available" counts and the like have no right-hand border on my 800x600 client :) 2009-12-11T11:31:32 or maybe it's 1024x768, which is what everybody here uses... 2009-12-11T11:32:23 if it's available in your version, try the org setting for horizontal patron summary, see if you like that better 2009-12-11T11:32:42 phasefx: this is trunk, so it better be available :) 2009-12-11T11:33:50 my first time in EG trunk in weeks, it's like christmas come early 2009-12-11T11:36:24 heh, "FATAL: the database system is in recovery mode" is a bad message to see in the logs. mayhaps I'll give this beast more RAM. 2009-12-11T11:36:34 dbs: have you given any thought about the relationship between launchpad's bug database and conifer's internal tracking of issues? 2009-12-11T11:36:54 another example appears to be, MARC_ITEM_TYPE_MAP. am i getting this? do we need someone (maybe me) to work on an admin to hack these tables? 2009-12-11T11:37:01 *** phasefx_ has quit IRC 2009-12-11T11:37:20 * phasefx4 resumes over here 2009-12-11T11:37:46 phasefx: I push bugs to EG trac (or launchpad, now) and link from conifer's trac instance to EG trac / launchpad when there are bugs 2009-12-11T11:37:57 err, over here 2009-12-11T11:38:16 *** berick has quit IRC 2009-12-11T11:38:24 most of our issues are configuration requests or gruntwork items, though 2009-12-11T11:39:08 *** bradl has quit IRC 2009-12-11T11:39:08 *** miker_ has quit IRC 2009-12-11T11:39:22 * phasefx nods 2009-12-11T11:39:32 yeah, OOM killed postgres. gar. 2009-12-11T11:40:50 StephenGWills: circulation rules are either script based or database-based - well, except for defining the specifics of fines and durations, where the scripts point to the corresponding database tables... 2009-12-11T11:41:21 *** berick has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T11:41:37 StephenGWills: we're using script-based at the moment, need to figure out if we can reproduce our script-based rules in the database (with the hopes that local library admins will be able to tweak all by themselves) 2009-12-11T11:42:17 dbs: so that seems like a sane general strategy to push.. we want to encourage folks to use the community bug tracker, but if they have support organizations, those organizations should buffer for them and handle submissions to the community bug tracker 2009-12-11T11:43:11 the issue would be how to keep script-based local copies of rules in sync with the server/database? 2009-12-11T11:43:32 and still have it all work offline? 2009-12-11T11:43:45 the issue would be "are we doing any wacky things in script-based that can't be reproduced by the current (new) in-db stuff", i think. 2009-12-11T11:44:02 "script-based" is currently server-side, using spidermonkey to run the scripts. 2009-12-11T11:44:26 "in db" is faster, but you might not be able to do everything you can possibly imagine. 2009-12-11T11:44:31 phasefx: I hope it's sane :) 2009-12-11T11:45:21 phasefx: My only fear is that the support organization fails to submit to the community bug tracker, but what are you going to do? 2009-12-11T11:45:22 if we link to launchpad from the community site, I think I'd like to put some suggestions up as well on how to use or not use it 2009-12-11T11:46:22 dbs: tx I think I got it. u too Jeff. I'll join the hackfest for now. is this issue db vs. script already in roadmaps? 2009-12-11T11:46:40 Yeah. I noticed that some tags that were added by the opener were removed and replaced with different tags, which concerns me a bit. "advanced" might be very general on its own, but combined with "opac" it makes more sense. 2009-12-11T11:48:19 And removing the opener's tags, without providing a rationale, might make them less likely to be able to find their own issues again - or less willing to open new issues for fear of doing something "wrong". Maybe. 2009-12-11T11:48:55 like a benevolent dictator, it can be described as a controlled folksonomy? :) 2009-12-11T11:49:49 and really, if the "how to report a bug" document says "we might adjust your tags, don't worry about it one way or the other", i don't see it as a problem. 2009-12-11T11:51:06 yeah. ideally we adopt an official set of tags (you can do that) and document what they mean, and apply those for QA team purposes. 2009-12-11T11:52:07 I lean towards wanting to also let people apply their own tags for their own purposes, rather than removing them, as long as they don't conflict with the documented official tags. 2009-12-11T11:52:17 * dbs builds assumptions on assumptions 2009-12-11T11:52:48 launchpad does support "bugs i've opened" 2009-12-11T11:53:46 I guess - where's the harm in tags outside of an official set? 2009-12-11T11:54:06 * dbs imagines jeff applying the "dbs_is_dumb" tag 2009-12-11T11:54:14 sorry, i wasn't arguing against, i was just looking to see if you could list your own bugs. 2009-12-11T11:54:21 we could prefix the official tags with an underscore or something 2009-12-11T11:54:36 dbs: no, dbsfail would be an official tag, i'd imagine. ;-) 2009-12-11T11:54:36 phasefx: launchpad lets you define the official tags for a project 2009-12-11T11:54:40 hah! 2009-12-11T11:54:45 ah, cool 2009-12-11T11:54:49 and heavily applied 2009-12-11T11:55:12 dbs++ # for bringing nginx up a few times -- it really saved me the other night 2009-12-11T11:56:55 i still don't like that it relies solely on tagging, yet doesn't bother to show the tags on bugs in a summary view, and doesn't have a way to combine any of its existing filters with tags except by manually editing a URL 2009-12-11T11:57:36 also, it APPEARS that you can specify more than one tag in a search by delineating them with commas 2009-12-11T11:57:43 but that becomes an OR, not an AND 2009-12-11T11:57:49 *** phasefx_ has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T11:57:56 *** sylvar has quit IRC 2009-12-11T11:57:57 and you can't stack the field.tag parameter. it barfs on that 2009-12-11T11:58:17 *** sylvar has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T11:58:30 in short, i hate the belief that tags fix everything, so we can throw everything else out 2009-12-11T11:59:13 tag: overrated 2009-12-11T11:59:21 also also, the tag cloud appears to take hours to catch up to reality 2009-12-11T12:00:10 just noticed the "show me my bugs" is titled "Bugs related to Jeff" 2009-12-11T12:04:33 * dbs doesn't see where the belief that tags fix everything is espoused 2009-12-11T12:04:41 *** bradl has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T12:04:50 dbs: i believe "in the interface of launchpad", not by anyone here. 2009-12-11T12:04:52 it's the part where tagging is the only way to organize things :) 2009-12-11T12:05:04 dbs: and "an unwelcome trend in lots of software" :) 2009-12-11T12:05:18 *** miker_ has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T12:05:20 yes. what jeff said. 2009-12-11T12:05:57 well, tagging isn't being used for importance, or status, or affected project, or assignee, or description, or milestone... 2009-12-11T12:07:08 so is it basically "tags don't work well for identifying components?" 2009-12-11T12:07:55 I'm not arguing that they're god's gift to us, but I don't see them as the bane of our existence either. 2009-12-11T12:08:28 *** Stuart has quit IRC 2009-12-11T12:08:42 like many "new" things, it would be nice if the new-thing doesn't completely replace the old-thing-that-was-still-useful 2009-12-11T12:09:11 larger-than-launchpad issue/lament. 2009-12-11T12:12:21 i was just pointing out the bits of launchpad that i see as suboptimal. 2009-12-11T12:12:24 So, I think that not having a defined list of components is the missing piece of launchpad. In my opinion. Is there anything else? 2009-12-11T12:12:33 and it turns out you can AND tags, but you have to go to advanced search first 2009-12-11T12:12:46 and you still have to know which tags actually exist 2009-12-11T12:13:35 Which is a lot easier if you define a set of official tags, and document what they mean. 2009-12-11T12:13:54 *and* someone comes along and makes the tags on everything match those tags 2009-12-11T12:14:16 which is basically what i was trying to do when i replaced "advanced" with "opac" yesterday 2009-12-11T12:16:08 *** r123 has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T12:16:59 right. and my objection is that the person who opened the bug a) has no idea what the set of official tags is, because they're not documented anywhere 2009-12-11T12:17:31 and b) probably has a conceptual model where "advanced" means something specific to them, and having additional tags outside of the official set doesn't seem to hurt anything 2009-12-11T12:17:52 well, if the tags are standing in as the components, then "advanced" isn't a component 2009-12-11T12:18:02 "advanced search" is, but tags can't contain spaces 2009-12-11T12:18:12 ref: staff.client 2009-12-11T12:18:28 so i reclassified it as "search" "opac" "ui", working up teh conceptual tree 2009-12-11T12:18:28 so adding "opac" and keeping "advanced" would achieve your goal of being able to retrieve bugs associated with "opac", without affecting your goal of retrieving bugs associated with "opac". 2009-12-11T12:18:40 the COLOR of the staff.client tag has not yet been established. 2009-12-11T12:19:23 i'm not saying i'm infallible, i'm just telling you where i was approaching it from. and teh official tags aren't "not documented" so much as "not existing", to my knowledge :) 2009-12-11T12:20:59 sboyette: I understand that. I'm arguing that at least until we define and document official tags, deleting someone else's tag rather than just adding your own might not be good form. 2009-12-11T12:22:02 otherwise, what's to stop me from deleting "search" "opac" "ui" and replacing it with "opac_search_advanced" because I find that more pleasingly specific? 2009-12-11T12:22:45 in other news -- the OpenSRF svn import to launchpad.net/opensrf will begin shortly 2009-12-11T12:49:02 *** r123 has quit IRC 2009-12-11T12:59:14 *** pmp_afk is now known as pmplett 2009-12-11T13:08:22 dbs: I was going to put "Enable ports 9080 and 9443 if required by your firewall" for your nginx instructions > http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=server_installation:nginx_proxy 2009-12-11T13:08:45 Before "Enjoy" but thought I'd ask you first. Makes sense? 2009-12-11T13:24:01 *** artunit has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T13:35:08 moodaepo: no concerns here! 2009-12-11T13:35:19 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2009-12-11T13:35:37 (other than the whole "stuff might break" warning at the top, which I think still stands) 2009-12-11T13:36:02 *** gmcharlt has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T13:38:55 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2009-12-11T13:48:05 dbs: Will do and stuff broke big time for me, need to check what's happening : ) 2009-12-11T14:09:59 *** gdunbar has quit IRC 2009-12-11T14:13:57 *** jamesrf is now known as jamesrf-afk 2009-12-11T14:22:53 *** Vladd44 has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T14:23:14 *** Vladd44 has left #evergreen 2009-12-11T14:27:46 atheos: in your asterisk setup, do you use the asterisk server configs to specify call windows and days (e.g. holidays) when calls should not go out or do you handle that w/ external logic? 2009-12-11T14:32:11 berick, I use GotoIfTime to handle the predictable open/close hours, and I have a holiday macro that handles the rest. The macro calls an external script, which communicates to an SQLite database. The database contains info on closing time, and the name of the auto-attendant audio file to be used. It also determines what closing statement gets played on the PA system at the end of the evening. 2009-12-11T14:32:56 when the board determines the holidays for the year, I just prep the SQLite database with all the recording for the year. 2009-12-11T14:34:40 dbs: Should nginx be running as user opensrf since apache runs as that or does it not matter? Also I'm setting this up on Hardy which has a lower version of nginx which does not recognize gzip_disable so I had to comment that out in my conf to get nginx to run. 2009-12-11T14:35:06 atheos: ah, very nice. would you be willing/able to license/share that macro & external script w/ the community? 2009-12-11T14:35:18 moodaepo: as long as it can read the files under /openils/var/web, it should be fine 2009-12-11T14:35:37 berick , you're talking about our config for the library, not for evergreen - right? 2009-12-11T14:36:25 all that nginx needs to do is read and serve static files and proxy dynamic requests to apache. in theory. 2009-12-11T14:36:44 I haven't finished that yet, but you're most certainly welcome to all the stuff we have. 2009-12-11T14:37:08 hrm. the gzip_disable thing rings a bit of a bell 2009-12-11T14:37:30 atheos: the asterisk bits. i'm mainly interested in the basic logic the tells asterisk how to behave under certain conditions, like "today is dec 25th, don't make any calls" 2009-12-11T14:38:13 oh, sure, I have plenty of example code for that. Do you prefer the standard .conf, or are you writing it in ael? 2009-12-11T14:38:30 atz: ^-- ? 2009-12-11T14:38:45 dbs: thnx but I think I still have issues...I get nada. > http://egplay.mnpals.net/ 2009-12-11T14:39:15 *** bshum has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T14:40:00 atheos: you're talking about an asterisk config controlling hours, right? 2009-12-11T14:40:16 moodaepo: are you proxying .xml pages, or serving them up directly? Because I'm seeing all of the includes in index.xml, suggesting that they're not being handed off to Apache for xmlent, etc 2009-12-11T14:40:52 atz yea, berick asked for examples. I'll copy/paste our support ael, just a sec 2009-12-11T14:41:07 atheos pasted "asterisk stuff" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/91959 2009-12-11T14:41:31 atheos++ 2009-12-11T14:41:39 that should give you some food for thought 2009-12-11T14:41:42 yeah, that's not really the scenario we had in mind originally, but maybe we will be having staff touch the asterisk configs for scheduling after all? idk 2009-12-11T14:42:45 atz: it occurs to me that locking down the call windows on the ast server is going to be required regardless. 2009-12-11T14:42:51 atz - I have another that defines call times in agi, but it's a string of scripts 2009-12-11T14:42:57 right 2009-12-11T14:42:59 I'll need a minute to put that together 2009-12-11T14:43:28 atz: consider the case where EG queues up 5k calls and hands them off, if ast is wide open, it could (theoretically) be calling well into the night 2009-12-11T14:43:59 dbs: I did a blind copy and paste of the wiki doc and changed the server_name to just egplay.mnpals.net since I am not running js/images/css on separate names 2009-12-11T14:44:01 pretty much 2009-12-11T14:44:03 i know of a library that has done that :) 2009-12-11T14:44:06 (not us!) 2009-12-11T14:45:00 <_bott_> yeah, yeah jeff, we only did it once 2009-12-11T14:45:07 <_bott_> ...which was one too many 2009-12-11T14:45:08 ;) 2009-12-11T14:45:10 i wasn't naming names! :) 2009-12-11T14:45:20 (but i guess process of elimination...) 2009-12-11T14:45:34 <_bott_> Hey, a call at 2:00AM from the library really gets people to bring those overdues back! 2009-12-11T14:46:11 "WAKE UP AND GIMME MY BOOKS!" 2009-12-11T14:46:28 *** jenny1 has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T14:46:31 i'm pondering licensing (or could we claim "mashup") the audio from the start of pink floyd's "Money" for overdue calls with fines. ;) 2009-12-11T14:46:31 moodaepo: weird. I wonder if old versions of nginx want a different syntax. 2009-12-11T14:47:16 jeff: get some local musician to record it and you probably would be fine. 2009-12-11T14:47:35 *** dbwells_ has joined #Evergreen 2009-12-11T14:47:50 *** sfortin_ has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T14:48:01 jeff++ 2009-12-11T14:48:12 *** jenny has quit IRC 2009-12-11T14:48:12 *** StephenGWills has quit IRC 2009-12-11T14:48:12 *** sfortin has quit IRC 2009-12-11T14:48:12 *** dbwells has quit IRC 2009-12-11T14:48:12 *** chrissharp123 has quit IRC 2009-12-11T14:48:17 *** sfortin_ is now known as sfortin 2009-12-11T14:48:18 *** dbwells_ is now known as dbwells 2009-12-11T14:48:38 jeff: i don't know, that 7/4 time signature might freak some people out 2009-12-11T14:49:02 * berick brushes off his old music theory 2009-12-11T14:49:23 any mac users remember the bit of software that also used a sample from that song? 2009-12-11T14:50:23 *** chrissharp123 has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T14:50:40 (ZTerm used the ka-ching as the "file's done" sound) 2009-12-11T14:51:05 dbs: Maybe aye, I'll go do more than just copy and paste i.e. rtfm. Will update the wiki page if I find anything out. Thanks. 2009-12-11T14:51:30 berick atz - here's some asterisk stuff you can pick apart for use (or amusement) http://www.zionsville.lib.in.us/media/niles/asterisk_stuff.tar.gz 2009-12-11T14:52:03 *** jenny has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T14:52:03 *** StephenGWills has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T14:52:41 jeff++ pink_floyd++ money+- 2009-12-11T14:52:41 atheos++ 2009-12-11T14:53:06 *** jenny1 has quit IRC 2009-12-11T14:53:06 *** miker_ has quit IRC 2009-12-11T14:53:06 *** phasefx_ has quit IRC 2009-12-11T14:53:06 *** dbs has quit IRC 2009-12-11T14:53:06 *** pmplett has quit IRC 2009-12-11T14:53:07 *** wjr has quit IRC 2009-12-11T14:53:07 *** phasefx2 has quit IRC 2009-12-11T14:53:07 *** greg-g has quit IRC 2009-12-11T14:53:07 *** mrpeters-isl has quit IRC 2009-12-11T14:53:07 indeed, atheos++ 2009-12-11T14:53:11 *** phasefx4 has quit IRC 2009-12-11T14:55:25 *** leed has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T14:55:28 grpl, tadl, hmmpl and atz asterisk configs/scripts... we just need one more to form voltron. 2009-12-11T14:56:51 *** Meliss has quit IRC 2009-12-11T14:56:51 *** mck9 has quit IRC 2009-12-11T14:56:51 *** brendan_ga_ has quit IRC 2009-12-11T14:56:51 *** atheos has quit IRC 2009-12-11T14:56:51 *** moodaepo has quit IRC 2009-12-11T14:56:51 *** jamesrf-afk has quit IRC 2009-12-11T14:57:16 *** Meliss has joined #Evergreen 2009-12-11T14:58:48 *** jamesrf-afk has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T15:00:25 *** senator has quit IRC 2009-12-11T15:01:51 *** jmeeuwen_ has quit IRC 2009-12-11T15:02:24 *** jmeeuwen has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T15:03:12 *** jenny has quit IRC 2009-12-11T15:03:34 *** senator has joined #Evergreen 2009-12-11T15:24:02 *** jenny1 has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T15:24:02 *** miker_ has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T15:24:02 *** phasefx_ has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T15:24:02 *** dbs has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T15:24:02 *** wjr has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T15:24:02 *** phasefx2 has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T15:24:02 *** greg-g has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T15:24:02 *** mrpeters-isl has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T15:24:29 *** pmplett_ has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T15:53:53 *** Meliss has quit IRC 2009-12-11T15:53:53 *** plogk has quit IRC 2009-12-11T15:53:53 *** _bott_ has quit IRC 2009-12-11T15:53:53 *** eby has quit IRC 2009-12-11T15:53:53 *** _dkyle_ has quit IRC 2009-12-11T15:53:53 *** AbizzalsX has quit IRC 2009-12-11T15:53:53 *** jmeeuwen has quit IRC 2009-12-11T15:53:53 *** bradl has quit IRC 2009-12-11T15:53:53 *** sylvar has quit IRC 2009-12-11T15:53:53 *** kbeswick has quit IRC 2009-12-11T15:53:53 *** phasefx has quit IRC 2009-12-11T15:56:37 *** jmeeuwen has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T15:56:37 *** Meliss has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T15:56:37 *** bradl has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T15:56:37 *** sylvar has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T15:56:37 *** plogk has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T15:56:37 *** _bott_ has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T15:56:37 *** eby has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T15:56:37 *** AbizzalsX has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T15:56:37 *** _dkyle_ has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T15:56:37 *** phasefx has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T15:56:37 *** kbeswick has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T15:56:40 *** moodaepo has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T15:57:46 *** brendan_ga has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T15:57:47 *** atheos has joined #Evergreen 2009-12-11T16:00:08 *** Meliss has quit IRC 2009-12-11T16:06:09 *** bshum has quit IRC 2009-12-11T16:13:49 anyone run into Couldn't process record: Can't call method "date1" on an undefined value at /openils/lib/perl5//OpenILS/Application/Ingest.pm line 1612. when running direct_ingest.pl and outputting the ingest file? 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2009-12-11T16:40:29 dbs: Probably not news to anyone but me but turning nginx on screwed up z39.50 access from Aleph. I still haven't figured out why nginx wasn't working yet but working on that and thoguht I'd mention this side effect. 2009-12-11T16:40:39 *** StephenGWills has quit IRC 2009-12-11T16:41:17 @later tell StephenGWills Did you also get banished to your own island? 2009-12-11T16:41:17 moodaepo: The operation succeeded. 2009-12-11T16:42:36 *** mrpeters-isl has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T16:43:24 *** StephenGWills has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T16:50:51 *** plogk has quit IRC 2009-12-11T16:50:51 *** _bott_ has quit IRC 2009-12-11T16:50:51 *** eby has quit IRC 2009-12-11T16:50:51 *** _dkyle_ has quit IRC 2009-12-11T16:50:51 *** AbizzalsX has quit IRC 2009-12-11T16:50:51 *** kbeswick has quit IRC 2009-12-11T16:50:51 *** sylvar has quit IRC 2009-12-11T16:50:51 *** phasefx has quit IRC 2009-12-11T16:50:51 *** bradl has quit IRC 2009-12-11T16:50:51 *** jmeeuwen has quit IRC 2009-12-11T16:50:57 *** dbs has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T16:52:19 *** jmeeuwen has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T16:52:19 *** bradl has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T16:52:19 *** sylvar has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T16:52:19 *** plogk has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T16:52:19 *** kbeswick has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T16:52:19 *** phasefx has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T16:52:19 *** _dkyle_ has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T16:52:19 *** AbizzalsX has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T16:52:19 *** eby has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T16:52:19 *** _bott_ has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T16:52:31 *** wjr has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T16:52:33 *** [1]atz has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T16:54:34 *** pmplett_ has quit IRC 2009-12-11T16:55:05 *** jenny has left #evergreen 2009-12-11T17:03:21 *** dbs has quit IRC 2009-12-11T17:06:50 *** brendan_ga has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T17:07:20 *** pmplett has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T17:14:50 *** atz has quit IRC 2009-12-11T17:14:51 *** [1]atz is now known as atz 2009-12-11T17:20:39 *** dchristens has left #evergreen 2009-12-11T17:42:16 @later tell dbs I had to edit /etc/apache2/sites-available/eg.conf from looking for 80/443 to 9080/9443 then everything worked fine and I've stopped seeing the z39.50 issue also. I'll try to revert and get things to break, to recreate the issue and confirm. 2009-12-11T17:42:16 moodaepo: The operation succeeded. 2009-12-11T17:58:10 i'm sure it has rough patches, but the buildbot HOWTO is now up at http://testing.esilibrary.com/buildbot/docs/HOWTO.html 2009-12-11T17:58:19 sorry for the delay. 2009-12-11T18:03:01 *** StephenGWills has quit IRC 2009-12-11T18:03:02 *** StephenGWills has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T18:03:02 *** phasefx_ has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T18:03:02 *** miker has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T18:11:02 sboyette++ 2009-12-11T18:20:23 *** StephenGWills has left #evergreen 2009-12-11T18:20:48 *** StephenGWills has joined #evergreen 2009-12-11T21:06:02 *** miker is now known as miker_ 2009-12-11T22:16:12 *** pmplett has left #evergreen