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There's a mistake on if they are upgrading to 1.4 or 1.6, then it's probably better to install osrf then re-do the EG build so it compiles against the latest osrf headers 2010-10-08T15:19:36 dave-esi: is it a wiki page? 2010-10-08T15:20:17 * dave-esi blushes 2010-10-08T15:20:21 http://www.evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=upgrading:evergreen:1.6.0.8_to_1.6.1.2 2010-10-08T15:20:33 * dave-esi hates copy/paste 2010-10-08T15:21:51 The page does not state that an upgrade to OpenSRF 1.4.x is necessary, which has caused a couple of problems. 2010-10-08T15:22:36 kk, I'll update 2010-10-08T15:34:08 dave-esi: That's good to know. We're not upgrading yet but we are working through the steps too. 2010-10-08T15:34:16 Thanks! 2010-10-08T15:39:41 If you look at at the clean install instructions, they do say to install OpensSRF1.4.x...but the upgrade ones don't. 2010-10-08T15:40:09 dave-esi: Aha, fun times. 2010-10-08T15:41:00 *** kmlussier has joined #evergreen 2010-10-08T15:44:51 dave-esi: interesting. We're on 1.6.1.2 and running opensrf 1.2 2010-10-08T15:45:24 Hrm 2010-10-08T15:45:24 dave-esi: what problems should I have expected to be seeing for the past month or two? 2010-10-08T15:45:39 dbs: Ghosts, goblins, etc. 2010-10-08T15:45:52 dave-esi: no no, that's three weeks in the future 2010-10-08T15:45:59 * dave-esi shrugs 2010-10-08T15:46:51 *** brian_f has joined #evergreen 2010-10-08T15:49:14 There might be a good reason for moving to 1.4, but _requiring_ a move to 1.4 instead of just suggesting it should have accompanying evidence (e.g. such and such will break) 2010-10-08T15:50:56 It certainly makes sense to have a new install of EG be based on OpenSRF 1.4.0. I'm just not convinced that it's necessary for an upgrade. 2010-10-08T15:51:34 Unless, of course, OpenSRF 1.2 is to blame for our recent NFS problems. Which, if it is, then I am very, very scared. 2010-10-08T15:52:11 dbs: as you speak, we're busily hard at work reimplementing TCP/IP on top of XMPP 2010-10-08T15:52:24 from there, NFS is but a hop, skip, and a jump away 2010-10-08T15:52:38 * dbs chortles, a deep, phlegmy, sick chortle 2010-10-08T15:53:05 * gmcharlt dodges 2010-10-08T15:57:52 dbs: I've toned done the language a bit 2010-10-08T15:58:19 *** Meliss has quit IRC 2010-10-08T15:58:23 *** lisppaste has joined #evergreen 2010-10-08T15:58:44 *** parsr has joined #evergreen 2010-10-08T15:59:31 *** gdunbar has quit IRC 2010-10-08T15:59:34 1.6.0.x to 1.6.1.2 upgrade: Staff Client upgrade not required, correct? 2010-10-08T16:00:38 parsr: not required, no 2010-10-08T16:00:53 parsr: if you do upgrade, then you get extra menu items (like the booking menu) 2010-10-08T16:01:20 * dbs switches between a 1.6.0.1 and 1.6.1.2 client for conifer, just to keep things honest 2010-10-08T16:05:08 thanks -- and for soft links in var/web/xul directory; I only need to keep/create links for versions of staff client expected to be installed in our network (I believe we still have some users on 1602, etc.). So if I remove any of the older ones, I should find out who didn't upgrade their staff clients last couple of times we asked them to.. 2010-10-08T16:09:16 *** finnapz has quit IRC 2010-10-08T16:14:10 parsr: indeed. they'll scream, and you can grab IPs from the apache error log :) 2010-10-08T16:16:09 eeevil: thanks; looks like a plan at least for older client links; enjoy the weekend all! 2010-10-08T16:17:13 *** parsr has quit IRC 2010-10-08T16:22:58 *** finnapz has joined #evergreen 2010-10-08T16:23:40 *** rjackson-isl has quit IRC 2010-10-08T16:25:23 *** bshum has quit IRC 2010-10-08T16:37:12 *** yboston has left #evergreen 2010-10-08T16:55:55 *** StephenGWills has joined #evergreen 2010-10-08T17:06:10 Question on registering workstations in Evergreen 2.0 alpha. should the user need any rights in addition to having REGISTER_WORKSTATION? 2010-10-08T17:09:44 STAFF_LOGIN 2010-10-08T17:10:22 if my memory is correct, also permission to retrieve the OU list 2010-10-08T17:12:28 *** kmlussier has quit IRC 2010-10-08T17:17:07 * tsbere doesn't like the fact that before his patch it is possible, on 1.6 or 2.0, to define rules that could seemingly randomly decide which one comes first in the circ matrix matchpoint. Though it is worse in 2.0. 2010-10-08T17:23:01 * phasefx would love something like ipchains, instead of multidimensional plinko 2010-10-08T17:23:41 with backend scripts as a fall-through option 2010-10-08T17:23:42 rofl 2010-10-08T17:26:23 phasefx and gmcharlt: Thanks! 2010-10-08T17:27:56 (and sorry for the delay; I got sidetracked by other things) 2010-10-08T17:54:19 *** brian_f has quit IRC 2010-10-08T18:10:57 *** pmplett is now known as pmpafk 2010-10-08T18:29:01 Weird in my local logs I can see "(13:50:44) miker_: INSERT INTO actor.usr SELECT" miker_g1 2010-10-08T18:29:11 Oops 2010-10-08T18:30:50 Ok so the online logs are wacked out...my local logs for Aug 23 2010 correlate to online http://evergreen-ils.org/irc_logs/evergreen/2010-08/%23evergreen.26-Thu-2010.log 2010-10-08T18:31:31 In my local logs I can see "(13:50:44) miker_: INSERT INTO actor.usr SELECT" for Aug 10 2010 but can't find anything by miker_ starting that way in the IRC logs on the website. 2010-10-08T18:32:14 * moodaepo goes home to walk the dog and think about this tomorrow 2010-10-08T18:43:08 @later tell moodaepo none of my logs match that, on either Aug 10, Aug 23, or Aug 26 2010-10-08T18:43:08 dbs: The operation succeeded. 2010-10-08T18:44:01 @later tell moodaepo maybe try Sept 1 2010-10-08T18:44:01 dbs: The operation succeeded. 2010-10-08T19:07:21 *** youdonotexist has quit IRC 2010-10-08T19:19:19 *** csharp_GPLS is now known as csharp 2010-10-08T19:54:53 *** jamesrf has quit IRC 2010-10-08T20:11:42 * LBA says see ya! 2010-10-08T20:12:03 *** LBA has left #evergreen 2010-10-08T21:38:54 *** finnapz has quit IRC 2010-10-08T21:54:04 *** phasebb has joined #evergreen 2010-10-08T21:55:15 *** finnapz has joined #evergreen 2010-10-08T21:56:15 *** phasebb has quit IRC 2010-10-08T22:50:53 *** tildeequals has joined #evergreen