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So right now, we have a way to convert the install readme into other formats. With the last option expressed, using HTML pages for the install docs, that would mean dropping the install wikis and just using HTML page links right? 2011-06-17T11:40:43 bshum: that's an option I had raised, yes 2011-06-17T11:41:29 which could be an automated nightly process (git pull; asciidoc README; some_munging_script README.html > /var/web/install.html) 2011-06-17T11:41:53 dbs: Neat, I like that idea. 2011-06-17T11:42:38 Thanks, I was just making sure I was interpreting that correctly. 2011-06-17T12:07:31 we could do something similar with google docs, but not google doc spreadsheets, apparently 2011-06-17T12:23:22 * dbs amuses self by picking exactly the same name for his AC timeout update branch as the last time: "dbs/saner-ac-timeouts" 2011-06-17T12:34:35 bshum: Thanks for the typo spotting and I took out FLOSS. Updated image and changed "DONATE" to "SUPPORT EVERGREEN" > http://shunya.mnpals.net/ 2011-06-17T12:34:52 Support Evergreen++ 2011-06-17T12:35:29 Down with Evergreen! 2011-06-17T12:36:30 moodaepo: That white space is still bugging me. Crazy sidebar issue? 2011-06-17T12:36:45 bshum: Big screen issue, I think. 2011-06-17T12:37:03 Screenshot? 2011-06-17T12:37:16 Sure. 2011-06-17T12:37:23 My screen isn't *that* big 2011-06-17T12:37:26 dbs the Evergreen anarchist. 2011-06-17T12:38:28 moodaepo++ # I like it - depending on the current -general discussion, there may be more verbiage to throw in there, but I like what you have 2011-06-17T12:39:19 * dbs has massive whitespace below "Please consider a check or wire transfer for larger amounts." fwiw 2011-06-17T12:39:28 Also added a line pointing out that paypal/google checkout take a cut as per tsbere's suggestion. 2011-06-17T12:40:00 I am throwing your suggested text from the mailing list after "Why Donate" 2011-06-17T12:40:42 *** tildeequals has joined #evergreen 2011-06-17T12:41:45 taking the width parm out of the "table" element works for me 2011-06-17T12:42:26 Heh 1%? What the heck was I thinkg? 2011-06-17T12:42:32 or *thinking 2011-06-17T12:42:38 whilst uninstalling/installing whilst packaging i seem to have broke evergreen C again but no obvious errors 2011-06-17T12:42:42 You just wanted to beat me to the git push ;) 2011-06-17T12:43:14 bshum: Try it again, will ya. 2011-06-17T12:43:47 moodaepo: I still see a giant whitespace after the Donation block paragraph and the PayPal/Google area 2011-06-17T12:44:02 It's the right sidebar that's doing something weird there. 2011-06-17T12:44:08 bjwebb: broken evergreen c: you mean opensrf C services won't start? 2011-06-17T12:44:18 dbs: yeah 2011-06-17T12:44:34 bjwebb: using the -l parm to osrf_ctl.sh? 2011-06-17T12:44:40 dbs: at least the auth stuff doesn't seem to be responding, but i can't see any indication of why 2011-06-17T12:44:41 dbs: yeah 2011-06-17T12:44:44 or did your hostname change? 2011-06-17T12:45:09 ps wax | grep auth # should tell you if it actually started 2011-06-17T12:46:11 moodaepo: If I remember correctly, we faced this same problem on the search.php page at first, before we shortened the links on the right sidebar. 2011-06-17T12:46:25 nope 2011-06-17T12:48:14 moodaepo: I was talking about width="80%" at the start of the paypal/google checkout table 2011-06-17T12:48:52 dbs: Yup I saw that, the 1% was from the html file SFC sent over. Changed that back and took out 80% 2011-06-17T12:49:14 moodaepo: okay :) 2011-06-17T12:49:43 hard refresh, looks good to me now 2011-06-17T12:50:13 bjwebb: "nope" as in "open-ils.auth" isn't in the list of processes? 2011-06-17T12:50:43 dbs: indeed. doesn't seem to have started 2011-06-17T12:51:29 bjwebb: okay. I'm not sure what uninstalling/installing changes in your current system, but if opensrf_core.xml gets changed that would be an issue 2011-06-17T12:51:53 ejabberd is running, and /var/log/ejabberd/ejabberd.log shows no errors? 2011-06-17T12:57:21 dbs: its running. cranking the verbosity down a bit to test 2011-06-17T12:59:50 no obviously relevant error. the perl opensrf stuff seems to be working fine 2011-06-17T13:02:59 berick - for you? https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/798840 2011-06-17T13:05:50 bjwebb: anything in the router logs (probably /openils/var/log/router-private.log)? 2011-06-17T13:06:47 another tack entirely: "ldd /openils/lib/oils_auth.so" will tell you if it can't resolve any libs it depends on 2011-06-17T13:07:18 http://pastebin.com/x49CdwUY -> not sure if that's helpful 2011-06-17T13:07:36 *** StephenGWills has quit IRC 2011-06-17T13:07:36 *** mtate has quit IRC 2011-06-17T13:07:36 *** rangi has quit IRC 2011-06-17T13:07:36 *** denials has quit IRC 2011-06-17T13:07:58 dbs: if that ldd outputs a load of paths its okay 2011-06-17T13:08:09 bjwebb: ejabberd.log should have a corresponding error, if the verbosity level is high enough 2011-06-17T13:08:15 *** StephenGWills has joined #evergreen 2011-06-17T13:08:15 *** mtate has joined #evergreen 2011-06-17T13:08:15 *** rangi has joined #evergreen 2011-06-17T13:08:15 *** denials has joined #evergreen 2011-06-17T13:08:43 bjwebb: yeah, if there are no "liboils_utils.so => ???" entries then you're good 2011-06-17T13:10:07 dbs: no ???, the issue with ejabberd is its either sparse or too much info 2011-06-17T13:10:25 *** tildeequals has quit IRC 2011-06-17T13:13:58 *** StephenGWills has quit IRC 2011-06-17T13:13:58 *** mtate has quit IRC 2011-06-17T13:13:58 *** rangi has quit IRC 2011-06-17T13:13:58 *** denials has quit IRC 2011-06-17T13:16:04 *** StephenGWills has joined #evergreen 2011-06-17T13:16:04 *** mtate has joined #evergreen 2011-06-17T13:16:04 *** rangi has joined #evergreen 2011-06-17T13:16:04 *** denials has joined #evergreen 2011-06-17T13:17:28 jeff csharp tsbere: Some final proofing? > http://shunya.mnpals.net/sfc.php 2011-06-17T13:22:00 * tsbere is way too busy to pay enough attention 2011-06-17T13:22:22 Very quick glance, looks like you have a bigger sfc logo on the side? 2011-06-17T13:23:35 moodaepo: Suggest changing "Donations to the project will be used to develop community events, fund projects, setup software bounties, etc., in general we can use this as pool of money to develop the Evergreen project & community without having to always look for sponsors." to "Donations to the project may be used for purposes such as paying for project infrastructure, supporting community events, and furthering software development." 2011-06-17T13:24:05 if that was cut off: to: "Donations to the project may be used for purposes such as paying for project infrastructure, supporting community events, and furthering software development." 2011-06-17T13:25:17 (so, "will" -> "may", "such as" to avoid having to use "etc."; dropping the last sentence because we're going to continue to look for sponsors for things like conferences and possibly other reasons, so I don't want to be too down on them :) 2011-06-17T13:25:57 could change "such as" to "including" for more formal style 2011-06-17T13:26:38 also, moodaepo++ # copyright footer change 2011-06-17T13:30:07 may also want to add a menu entry under Contribute for this page 2011-06-17T13:31:48 *** tildeequals has joined #evergreen 2011-06-17T13:34:39 asset.copy_location has a busted trigger. :( 2011-06-17T13:42:17 moodaepo: sfc page looks good to me ;-) 2011-06-17T13:42:33 Who is the best person to ask about asset.cache_copy_visibility? 2011-06-17T13:42:55 tsbere: gmcharlt I believe 2011-06-17T13:43:11 tsbere: what's up? 2011-06-17T13:45:54 gmcharlt: asset.cache_copy_visibility likes to throw errors 2011-06-17T13:46:05 Specifically, syntax errors 2011-06-17T13:46:31 When you edit copy_location or copy_status and are turning opac_visibile on 2011-06-17T13:46:45 (and probably when you turn it off, looking at the code) 2011-06-17T13:47:57 tsbere: master branch? 2011-06-17T13:48:43 gmcharlt: Unless something changed in the past, oh, three hours there, yea. 2011-06-17T13:49:58 gmcharlt: Actually, looks like it would break turning on opac_visible on actor.org_unit too 2011-06-17T13:50:22 yeah, I think some breakage may have crept into there with peer_bibs 2011-06-17T13:51:38 ah, trivial to fix 2011-06-17T13:55:18 writing patch for https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/788763 now 2011-06-17T14:04:18 *** raynerj1 has joined #evergreen 2011-06-17T14:05:23 bjwebb: any progress on your c services situation? just to be sure - your opensrf.xml uses "localhost" to list the services to run, right? And open-ils.auth is amongst them? 2011-06-17T14:32:43 *** collum has quit IRC 2011-06-17T14:37:05 dbs: fixed it now. its with installing opensrf and openils to different places 2011-06-17T14:37:24 *** edoceo has quit IRC 2011-06-17T14:37:37 *** edoceo has joined #evergreen 2011-06-17T14:39:08 tsbere: collab/gmcharlt/lp788763, if you care to check and sign off 2011-06-17T14:39:24 *** frank____ has joined #evergreen 2011-06-17T14:53:02 *** natschil has quit IRC 2011-06-17T14:53:29 *** natschil has joined #evergreen 2011-06-17T14:54:35 gmcharlt: Check? Fail. Sign-off skipped due to previous failures. 2011-06-17T14:55:06 tsbere: exactly the same error message? 2011-06-17T14:55:22 Nope. New one! That I got by doing the same basic change, I think. 2011-06-17T14:56:03 gmcharlt: Issue, as I see it: The where clause being added to add_query needs to be added to the two *inner* selects, not the entire add_query. 2011-06-17T14:56:27 As the outermost query to add the where to doesn't have any clue what the location field is at all 2011-06-17T14:57:10 Probably worked fine until biblio.peer_bib_copy_map checking was added in, turning one query into a union of two 2011-06-17T14:58:45 gmcharlt: Idea: Add cp.circ_lib, cp.location, and cp.status to the two sub-queries, and change the where to not include the cp. on those (or change the cp. to x.)? 2011-06-17T14:59:06 Oh, wait, circ_lib already is there. 2011-06-17T14:59:33 Still, the outermost query just needs id, circ_lib, and record, so adding more for optional where queries shouldn't break it 2011-06-17T15:02:51 gmcharlt: Do you want me to take a crack at it now? 2011-06-17T15:05:14 *** natschil has quit IRC 2011-06-17T15:05:33 *** natschil has joined #evergreen 2011-06-17T15:05:51 *** edoceo has quit IRC 2011-06-17T15:07:15 *** pmplett has joined #evergreen 2011-06-17T15:08:49 moodaepo++ #new site changes 2011-06-17T15:10:07 bjwebb: ah, so the same rpath issue you ran into before? 2011-06-17T15:13:49 *** natschil has quit IRC 2011-06-17T15:14:05 *** natschil has joined #evergreen 2011-06-17T15:17:32 gmcharlt: How about my collab/tsbere@mvlc.org/lp788763 ? (Started from scratch) 2011-06-17T15:20:15 *** natschil has quit IRC 2011-06-17T15:20:31 *** natschil has joined #evergreen 2011-06-17T15:22:11 tsbere: testing now 2011-06-17T15:22:34 gmcharlt: Note I do much less upgrade-script pre-wrapping ;) 2011-06-17T15:25:54 tsbere: tested all of the scenarios; looks good 2011-06-17T15:26:04 * gmcharlt grabs 0560 2011-06-17T15:29:33 *** natschil has quit IRC 2011-06-17T15:29:52 *** natschil has joined #evergreen 2011-06-17T15:44:09 *** natschil has quit IRC 2011-06-17T15:44:36 *** natschil has joined #evergreen 2011-06-17T16:03:06 *** tildeequals has quit IRC 2011-06-17T16:03:34 tsbere++ 2011-06-17T16:03:52 gmcharlt: Got time to look at any of the other launchpad entries kicking around from this week? 2011-06-17T16:05:43 *** kmlussier has quit IRC 2011-06-17T16:05:44 gmcharlt: specifically thinking about 797460 2011-06-17T16:06:04 maybe 794152 2011-06-17T16:10:17 gmcharlt++ # he's on FIRE 2011-06-17T16:10:45 dbs++ # SIPServer stuff 2011-06-17T16:11:23 * tsbere will try and look at the latest couple, but has other concerns to finish looking at first 2011-06-17T16:11:35 tsbere: pushed your patch for 797460 2011-06-17T16:12:16 tsbere: no rush, I'm just happy to have the patches sitting on the list and not only applied locally on our server :) 2011-06-17T16:12:44 dbs: You know, we forgot something fairly important when it comes to these patches 2011-06-17T16:13:09 dbs: You have a key in the git server. There is a SIPServer *working* repo... 2011-06-17T16:13:18 tsbere: oh! 2011-06-17T16:13:33 I thought there was only a working repo for EG and OpenSRF. well then 2011-06-17T16:13:51 * dbs sees it now, plain as day. duh 2011-06-17T16:14:22 * tsbere wonders if there should be a Syrup working repo at some point, or an Evergreen Website one 2011-06-17T16:14:25 oh well, at least the discussion around the patches is visible too - I suppose we could set up launchpad.net/SIPServer if we wanted to consolidate 2011-06-17T16:15:08 launchpad.net/SIPServer might help Koha folks collaborate too 2011-06-17T16:15:18 eh rangi? 2011-06-17T16:15:35 dbs: fine with me 2011-06-17T16:21:43 *** yboston has quit IRC 2011-06-17T16:21:56 gmcharlt: Quick question about EDI scripts, do we just copy them from support-scripts into /openils/bin 2011-06-17T16:22:04 And setup A/T accordingly? 2011-06-17T16:22:38 bshum: yes for edi_fetcher and pusher 2011-06-17T16:22:50 Gotcha 2011-06-17T16:22:50 also need to start up the edi_webrick service 2011-06-17T16:24:55 "We brick your Evergreen system!" 2011-06-17T16:25:22 FUD! 2011-06-17T16:26:01 it's not brick at all! 2011-06-17T16:26:07 it's instead a nice stucco 2011-06-17T16:26:37 copy_locations++ # useful 2011-06-17T16:26:45 copy_locations-- # pita 2011-06-17T16:27:03 gmcharlt: So I should follow the install.sh script that's in the edi_translator directory. 2011-06-17T16:27:13 gmcharlt: And hope it doesn't puke on Lucid 2011-06-17T16:27:34 In order to get that going 2011-06-17T16:29:32 The readme says it was written for Lenny so that might be interesting 2011-06-17T16:29:47 dbs: Any chance of pushing your latest patch(es) to a working repo? Much easier than trying to get git to read them via email import stuff for author info. 2011-06-17T16:29:56 absolutely 2011-06-17T16:30:51 dbs++ 2011-06-17T16:34:32 Neato, thanks for the hints gmcharlt, guess I'll have a fun week ahead poking at this stuff. 2011-06-17T16:35:16 dbs: unfortunately SIP spec was written for an ASCII world. 2011-06-17T16:35:18 tsbere: pushed user/dbs/unicode-handling (after forgetting about git:// vs. git@, heh) 2011-06-17T16:35:30 heh. 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