2008-05-14T00:05:42 and with that, the Mac and LU bib loading begins (and my fingers are firmly crossed). good night. 2008-05-14T00:05:45 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-05-14T00:53:19 *** asmodai has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-05-14T00:55:09 *** greg-g has quit IRC 2008-05-14T01:31:51 *** Mark__T has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-05-14T03:17:02 *** asmodai has quit IRC 2008-05-14T06:35:41 * jeff does some database recovery / rebuild work 2008-05-14T06:51:39 *** ibbo has quit IRC 2008-05-14T07:59:28 *** ibbo has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-05-14T07:59:37 *** ibbo has left #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-05-14T08:18:48 *** kbeswick has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-05-14T08:27:13 *** pmurray_away is now known as pmurray 2008-05-14T08:32:43 *** Slazer has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-05-14T08:49:06 *** edc_detached is now known as ecorrado 2008-05-14T09:58:30 *** Mark__T has quit IRC 2008-05-14T10:03:55 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-05-14T10:06:53 Hmm. More useful data points for the wiki would be amount of disk space required per million records (or something like that) 2008-05-14T10:07:43 our sysadmins had allocated 30GB to /var/lib/postgresql but data load died due to lack of disk space around 2.1 M records (so I guess roughly 15GB / M records) 2008-05-14T10:57:51 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-05-14T10:58:03 *** rsinger has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-05-14T11:08:44 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-05-14T11:08:47 *** rsinger has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-05-14T11:15:37 *** gmcharlt_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-05-14T11:16:46 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2008-05-14T11:17:30 *** gmcharlt_ is now known as gmcharlt 2008-05-14T11:18:09 *** Karen__ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-05-14T11:24:58 *** rsinger_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-05-14T11:24:58 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-05-14T11:39:59 *** greg-g has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-05-14T11:51:35 haw haw: transaction ID wrap limit is 1073848870, limited by database "evergreen" 2008-05-14T11:51:50 poor postgresql 2008-05-14T11:53:09 harmless, I guess 2008-05-14T11:54:10 dbs: just submitted patch 2008-05-14T11:54:40 kbeswick++ 2008-05-14T11:54:51 i renamed it from "cool.patch" though. 2008-05-14T11:54:56 which isn't as cool 2008-05-14T12:02:54 dbs pasted "eeevil - some bad DDL in circ_matrix?" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/60766 2008-05-14T12:16:23 *** kbeswick is now known as kbeswick_ 2008-05-14T12:17:47 dbs: re trans limit, yeah, if you go over 2B, then there will be problems... 2008-05-14T12:18:03 dbs: just vacuum full after the import! 2008-05-14T12:19:26 dbs: re LOOP, yeah, I ran into plpgsql LOOP stuff for 8.1 in staged search too 2008-05-14T12:20:22 there were changes in plpgsql in 8.2 to make loop easier to use ... so, while my suggestion is still "move to 8.2," I will fix that 2008-05-14T12:23:07 *** ibbo has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-05-14T12:24:15 dbs: ok ... updated. feel like trying that again? 2008-05-14T12:32:59 *** rsinger_ is now known as rsinger 2008-05-14T12:46:58 *** ibbo has left #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-05-14T13:05:51 eeevil: thanks - will try the update 2008-05-14T13:06:00 thank /you/ sir 2008-05-14T13:07:03 eeevil: update works flawlessly (no surprise) - eeevil++ 2008-05-14T13:07:09 gooood 2008-05-14T13:07:41 now we (I) just need to build the dang ol interface for configuring that, and then test it heavily 2008-05-14T13:23:24 *** kbeswick_ is now known as kbeswick 2008-05-14T13:23:38 *** kbeswick has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-05-14T14:19:19 *** ecorrado is now known as ecorrado_Montr 2008-05-14T14:19:28 *** ecorrado_Montr is now known as ecorrad_montreal 2008-05-14T14:38:35 *** rsinger_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-05-14T14:54:36 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-05-14T15:01:14 *** rsinger_ is now known as rsinger 2008-05-14T15:21:37 ok, folks. quick show of hands on 1.2.2.1 ... 2008-05-14T15:22:17 +1 2008-05-14T15:22:39 +1 2008-05-14T15:26:12 is it typical for an ILS to support 1 vendor marc order record format, in which case you have to set up profiles with your vendors to match that format or does it usually go both ways, where you can configure the ILS to match the vendor or the vendor to match the ILS? Looks like we'll need a GUI to configure the record formats (to populate acq.lineitem_attr_definition), but i'm trying to get a feel for what people do now so i can guage the 2008-05-14T15:27:18 got truncated after "guage the" 2008-05-14T15:27:26 ...priority 2008-05-14T15:27:44 s/acq.lineitem_attr_definition/acq.lineitem_provider_attr_definition/ 2008-05-14T15:27:55 berick: I think we want to support a profile-per-provider, no? 2008-05-14T15:28:04 berick: I'll try to check with mah peeps to see what they're stuck with today 2008-05-14T15:28:36 based on my reading of the various vendor pages, they get forced to support the ILS's particular format 2008-05-14T15:28:47 eeevil: yeah, i think EG should be able to accomodate per-provider profiles, but i'm not sure how high on the list the GUI to set that up is 2008-05-14T15:29:06 dbs: thanks.. that's what i was expecting 2008-05-14T15:29:11 (and from just talking with one of the vendors this morning, they expect to be forced to do bad things.. but like I said, I'll double-check) 2008-05-14T15:29:52 ahh... well, if you can configure one, you can configure all... but I guess if we ship a "default" profile then we can force the vendors and leave the UI for later ;) 2008-05-14T15:30:11 from a "let's make evergreen cool" perspective, I sort of want to do it now.. ;) 2008-05-14T15:30:19 agreed 2008-05-14T15:32:02 i'll mock something up.. shouldn't be bad 2008-05-14T15:32:18 dbs: thanks again for the data.. i finally had a chance to actually start looking at it 2008-05-14T15:32:19 vendor dude I was talking to was very interested in our roadmap; they want to support eg 2008-05-14T15:32:39 berick: yeah, they do a good job of explaining their marc order format; the EDI stuff, not so much :) 2008-05-14T15:32:45 heh 2008-05-14T15:33:53 i'm savin the EDI for later 2008-05-14T15:34:41 berick: I'm thinking that might be a good chunk of project to carve off for mjgiarlo 2008-05-14T15:35:10 mostly self-contained, he should be able to beaver away at it 2008-05-14T15:35:26 dbs: yeah, especially since the basic communication is completely non-EG 2008-05-14T15:35:40 we'll need some test sites... 2008-05-14T15:35:41 yep - just hook up to EG via JSON and enjoy 2008-05-14T15:36:18 dbs: you think your vendor peeps might have test servers we can send data to? 2008-05-14T15:37:23 berick: I asked about that in my first round of communications but didn't get very much response to that particular question 2008-05-14T15:37:59 mostly they said "send us the EDI that EG produces so that we can test it with our system" whereas I was asking them to send us samples of the EDI they would like us to produce :) 2008-05-14T15:38:10 right ;) 2008-05-14T15:38:21 "cuz we can make it do anything!" 2008-05-14T15:53:19 for another vendor: "We do have a test system available that only our IT Department have access to." 2008-05-14T15:53:43 "If we receive any test orders or send any test invoice files, [our EDI person] will intervene and move such files through our test system" 2008-05-14T15:54:05 "I would be happy to join your IT team as a teleworking contractor" 2008-05-14T15:54:07 not sure who they're testing for ;) 2008-05-14T15:54:27 they don't want the competition "testing" their systems :) 2008-05-14T15:54:48 heh 2008-05-14T15:56:01 *** kbeswick has quit IRC 2008-05-14T15:56:42 *** Slazer has quit IRC 2008-05-14T16:25:52 dbs: oy, got some errors with your vmware image. the c services took a long time to start, wonder if they really didn't 2008-05-14T16:26:04 they probably didn't 2008-05-14T16:26:10 they didn't 2008-05-14T16:26:16 how long did you wait between start_perl and start_c 2008-05-14T16:26:30 not long at all.. as soon as I saw a prompt, I went for it 2008-05-14T16:26:52 yeah, with the VM image, you might want to cool your heels for a second or two more - still... 2008-05-14T16:26:59 did the perl services start up okay? 2008-05-14T16:27:14 yeah, looks like it 2008-05-14T16:27:39 hrm - then probably a hostname issue 2008-05-14T16:27:41 I see actor, circ, storage.. just don't see cstore 2008-05-14T16:27:56 stop_c, then try start_c again? 2008-05-14T16:28:06 roger roger 2008-05-14T16:28:10 otherwise, it sounds like it might be a hostname issue 2008-05-14T16:28:35 alright, have cstore now 2008-05-14T16:28:55 yay-ish (full yay if it keeps running) 2008-05-14T16:29:23 much better 2008-05-14T16:29:54 so much easier than trying to fix my local instance :D 2008-05-14T16:30:06 maybe we can assign one of the kids to fix that race condition :) 2008-05-14T16:30:48 if kevin's going to go full out packages, he'll need to init.d-ize the services 2008-05-14T16:31:47 eww, open-ils.at.biblio.record.xml.import failed 2008-05-14T16:31:53 s/at/cat/ 2008-05-14T16:33:02 hrmm, not a lot of detail.. 404 An unknown server error occurred 2008-05-14T16:33:07 eww indeed 2008-05-14T16:33:16 import z39.50? 2008-05-14T16:33:49 yeah.. okay, I see something meatier.. No active transaction -- required for CREATE 2008-05-14T16:34:25 in biblio.record_entry.create 2008-05-14T16:35:26 hrmm, I'm just going to shut it all down, move the logs out of the way, try again 2008-05-14T16:35:47 Strange - I was able to import a new record and add a copy - last thing I did before creating the image 2008-05-14T16:35:58 I have a talent 2008-05-14T16:41:15 hah! 2008-05-14T16:41:29 did you ever manage to reproduce my hardy staff client problem? 2008-05-14T16:42:51 no, but I have the iso for hardy, have it mounted on a virtualbox, and just haven't fired it up yet :-/ 2008-05-14T16:43:04 heh - cool 2008-05-14T16:43:35 I've been pulled into about a thousand different directions it seems - haven't even fired up the dev staff client for about two weeks :( 2008-05-14T16:44:01 dbs: your fired! ... oh, wait ... 2008-05-14T16:44:14 and with that frivolity, I'm out (biab) 2008-05-14T16:45:13 i too am out 2008-05-14T16:45:26 (and will also be back) 2008-05-14T16:45:29 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-05-14T17:12:23 *** pmurray is now known as pmurray_away 2008-05-14T17:34:06 *** lisppaste6 has quit IRC 2008-05-14T17:48:34 *** lisppaste6 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-05-14T19:25:25 *** Karen__ has left #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-05-14T20:07:25 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-05-14T20:27:52 *** agJohn has quit IRC 2008-05-14T21:00:42 *** JMCraig has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-05-14T21:00:43 *** JMCraig is now known as agJohn 2008-05-14T21:07:05 *** djfiander has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-05-14T21:16:14 *** sylvar has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-05-14T21:21:24 berick: when I try to load the picklist list, I get an error: "could not load 'dijit.form.DropDownButton' 2008-05-14T21:26:09 djfiander: hmm 2008-05-14T21:26:19 that should be dojo.form.Button 2008-05-14T21:26:23 for the import, that is 2008-05-14T21:26:39 yeah. the dojo docs look like dropdownbutton needs Button and Menu. 2008-05-14T21:27:07 picklist/view_list.js has a dojo.require('dojo.Button') 2008-05-14T21:27:18 well, dojo.form.Button 2008-05-14T21:27:49 but not dijit.Menu. checking now 2008-05-14T21:28:12 nope 2008-05-14T21:28:15 wth, it's loading for me 2008-05-14T21:28:21 I'll dig 2008-05-14T21:30:13 yeah, there it is in dijit/form/Button.js 2008-05-14T21:30:54 djfiander: maybe a shift-reload ? 2008-05-14T21:33:04 now it's failing on dijit.TooltipDialog. 2008-05-14T21:33:14 I suspect the problem is another timing issue. 2008-05-14T21:33:43 I inserted a