2008-06-18T01:24:47 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-06-18T02:52:12 *** Mark__T has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-18T04:29:38 *** jeff has quit IRC 2008-06-18T08:34:33 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-18T08:34:50 *** Slazer has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-18T08:40:01 *** kbeswick has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-18T08:41:50 rhel-- 2008-06-18T08:41:52 rhel-- 2008-06-18T08:41:54 rhel-- 2008-06-18T08:42:43 kbeswick: one other thing, that I think we talked about for OpenSRF autotools; rather than having both --enable and --disable options for each option 2008-06-18T08:43:05 there should be a --disable option if the default for a given option is enabled, or --enable if the default is disabled 2008-06-18T08:45:22 i dont think i understand what you mean? 2008-06-18T08:45:55 because the way im understanding, that is how it is 2008-06-18T08:47:44 well, enable/disable will work for each, but only the opposite of the default should show in --help 2008-06-18T08:48:51 that's not what I saw 2008-06-18T08:49:00 like for install-java , the default is disabled, so the --help option would show "--enable-install-java ...." 2008-06-18T08:49:09 on openils, at least 2008-06-18T08:49:11 ahh 2008-06-18T08:49:12 open ils 2008-06-18T08:49:17 i was checking srf 2008-06-18T08:49:21 those ones are ok i think 2008-06-18T08:49:22 sorry for not being specific :) 2008-06-18T08:49:32 yeah, you had fixed the opensrf beasties before 2008-06-18T08:51:52 i should have everything done by lunch hopefully 2008-06-18T08:52:02 assuming nothing goes wrong 2008-06-18T08:52:09 it's a bad assumption. 2008-06-18T08:52:34 you're learning! 2008-06-18T08:52:41 the way of pessimism 2008-06-18T08:54:48 i'm also learning the way of dbs 2008-06-18T08:54:58 im installing bzr on my virtual machine 2008-06-18T08:55:11 which i should have done from the beginning 2008-06-18T08:55:56 * dbs chuckles 2008-06-18T08:56:55 what you _really_ want to do is get a new clean VMWare machine from http://thoughtpolice.co.uk (no need to install from scratch), install bzr, and take a snapshot 2008-06-18T08:57:31 then you can use bzr to pull a branch, run Makefile.install to install all the prerequisites (using the latest version from your new bzr branch) 2008-06-18T08:57:47 and then run autogen.sh / configure / make / make install and test 2008-06-18T08:58:42 then to get back to clean image + bzr state, just "revert to snapshot" and you can run through all the steps from Makefile.install on without worrying about files hanging around in /tmp or /usr/include or wherever 2008-06-18T08:59:01 yes 2008-06-18T08:59:28 sometimes i wipe my image, but that is an even better idea. saves me time 2008-06-18T09:00:22 (and you're thinking "NOW he tells me, after 6 weeks...") 2008-06-18T09:03:11 this guy is really encouraging people to use bittorrent 2008-06-18T09:03:37 too bad it's blocked!!!!!!111111 2008-06-18T09:04:50 yeah - the ftp approach works fine 2008-06-18T09:05:29 I could post his debian & centos images internally to save you some time 2008-06-18T09:07:02 its on it's way 2008-06-18T09:07:44 you could do that though anyway, so i can test things wit hdifferent cases 2008-06-18T09:17:39 *** phasefx has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-18T09:29:23 *** eeevil has quit IRC 2008-06-18T09:29:26 *** phasefx__ has quit IRC 2008-06-18T09:29:28 *** eeevil has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-18T09:34:23 *** skmurphy_away is now known as skmurphy 2008-06-18T10:02:58 *** Mark__T has left #openils-evergreen 2008-06-18T10:22:34 question - Is there a plan integrating Envisionware's e-commerce application with EG to handle credit card payments directly through EG? I seem to recall mention of this, but I can't remember what was said. =) 2008-06-18T10:30:14 skmurphy: i'm aware of no such plan. native credit card support is planned and partially implemented, though 2008-06-18T10:30:56 all payments go into the wachovia account of one r. singer. 2008-06-18T10:35:02 in $0.10 chunks 2008-06-18T10:35:39 i see, as in EG will talk directly with teh credit hosts? 2008-06-18T10:37:26 yep 2008-06-18T10:37:37 heh 2008-06-18T10:37:54 thx 2008-06-18T10:37:56 there is server side support for authorize.net and untested support for paypal 2008-06-18T10:42:14 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-06-18T10:43:49 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-18T10:47:14 cool, thanks berick! 2008-06-18T10:52:50 *** agJohn has quit IRC 2008-06-18T11:26:18 *** Karen__ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-06-18T12:21:48 *** rsinger_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-06-18T12:22:25 *** skmurphy_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-18T12:22:49 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-06-18T12:23:02 *** rsinger_ is now known as rsinger 2008-06-18T12:39:20 *** skmurphy has quit IRC 2008-06-18T12:54:58 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-06-18T12:55:03 *** skmurphy_ is now known as skmurphy 2008-06-18T12:56:05 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-18T13:00:15 dbs? 2008-06-18T13:00:22 WHAT? 2008-06-18T13:00:26 :) 2008-06-18T13:00:53 should the sock, pid, and log dirs be customizable 2008-06-18T13:01:08 im assuming the log should be 2008-06-18T13:01:10 at least 2008-06-18T13:01:28 err, the directory locations * 2008-06-18T13:06:21 yep 2008-06-18T13:06:55 k 2008-06-18T13:57:09 kbeswick: lemme know when things are safe to touch 2008-06-18T13:57:40 Slazer: lemme know when your next patches are ready. or post them to the mailing list (with DCO) if you're feeling confident 2008-06-18T13:57:40 dbs: had a delay setting up the new VM 2008-06-18T13:57:48 oh, sure, blame the poor VM 2008-06-18T13:58:12 were you looking for nice graphical interfaces? 2008-06-18T13:58:19 actually, yes 2008-06-18T13:58:26 * dbs shakes head slowly 2008-06-18T13:58:31 dbs: Will do. Been working on a large file today... about 3/4s done it. 2008-06-18T13:58:48 dbs: if i invested the time into vi , i would be fine, but sadly.... 2008-06-18T14:08:08 sudo aptitude bzr gnome-desktop ? 2008-06-18T14:10:39 s/gnome-desktop/gedit/ 2008-06-18T14:10:55 and add firefox - and you should be good to go. 2008-06-18T15:19:39 miker_: nice mod for "patronless" circ data; I told the eIFL folks about the BC mccoy.pl approach (as they were interested in the same feature) 2008-06-18T15:19:46 you are a mind reader, man 2008-06-18T15:20:03 heh 2008-06-18T15:20:09 been on my mind for a while 2008-06-18T15:21:24 the only major thing they asked for, that seems unlikely or very hard to implement (at least based on my understanding of pgsql FTS) was wildcard truncation for search terms 2008-06-18T15:22:57 hey cool! http://www.marshallnews.com/story/1437369.html 2008-06-18T15:23:04 go evergreen go 2008-06-18T15:23:20 :) 2008-06-18T15:25:19 i've got a reply for grant 2008-06-18T15:29:28 thanks 2008-06-18T15:30:06 dbs: opensrf is updated 2008-06-18T15:31:46 kbeswick: fandango 2008-06-18T15:32:38 i just made those directories customizable, made it handle defaults for them, and fixed the sysconfdir thing 2008-06-18T15:34:07 oh- and made it output "dbs r0000llllz" 1000 times after the script is finished 2008-06-18T15:34:31 kbeswick: excellent - now about the funnelling of money into my account? 2008-06-18T15:35:00 working on it 2008-06-18T15:51:09 dbs: is pgsql 8.3 compatible with openils? 2008-06-18T15:51:16 No 2008-06-18T15:51:31 slazer and i both have that version on our computers 2008-06-18T15:51:38 unless we somehow upgraded somewhere 2008-06-18T15:51:51 thus parsing pg_config and issuing a warning if you get back 8.3 is necessary 2008-06-18T15:52:03 I had you install ubuntu 7.10, which comes with pg 8.2 2008-06-18T15:52:19 if you upgraded to hardy, then it automatically keeps 8.2 and adds 8.3 in parallel at a different port 2008-06-18T15:52:31 we didnt upgrade 2008-06-18T15:52:45 craig@order:~$ pg_config --version 2008-06-18T15:52:45 PostgreSQL 8.3.1 2008-06-18T15:52:59 uname -a 2008-06-18T15:53:00 ? 2008-06-18T15:53:18 craig@order:~$ uname -a 2008-06-18T15:53:18 Linux order 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 07:42:25 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux 2008-06-18T15:54:15 aptitude search postgresql-server 2008-06-18T15:54:23 and 2008-06-18T15:55:01 craig@order:~$ aptitude search postgresql-server 2008-06-18T15:55:01 p postgresql-server-dev-8.1 - development files for PostgreSQL 8.1 serve... 2008-06-18T15:55:01 i postgresql-server-dev-8.2 - development files for PostgreSQL 8.2 serve... 2008-06-18T15:55:01 p postgresql-server-dev-8.3 - development files for PostgreSQL 8.3 serve... 2008-06-18T15:55:19 aptitude search postgresql-client 2008-06-18T15:55:32 craig@order:~$ aptitude search postgresql-client 2008-06-18T15:55:32 p postgresql-client - front-end programs for PostgreSQL (latest 2008-06-18T15:55:32 p postgresql-client-8.1 - front-end programs for PostgreSQL 8.1 2008-06-18T15:55:32 i A postgresql-client-8.2 - front-end programs for PostgreSQL 8.2 2008-06-18T15:55:32 p postgresql-client-8.3 - front-end programs for PostgreSQL 8.3 2008-06-18T15:55:33 i A postgresql-client-common - manager for multiple PostgreSQL client ver 2008-06-18T15:55:46 hrm - maybe coming from libpq? 2008-06-18T15:56:44 maybe the pg_config thing ain't so hot :( 2008-06-18T15:56:54 yeah... 2008-06-18T15:56:57 What's with the "p" and "i" besides some of those lines? 2008-06-18T15:56:58 at any rate, you have 8.2 installed 2008-06-18T15:57:03 i = installed 2008-06-18T15:57:21 Heh, ok then. 2008-06-18T15:57:45 p = purge 2008-06-18T15:58:27 *** Slazer has quit IRC 2008-06-18T16:04:39 *** bradl has quit IRC 2008-06-18T16:05:09 *** bradl has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-18T16:10:22 *** kbeswick has quit IRC 2008-06-18T16:22:33 dbs: hey Dan, what version of the prereq installer did you use for your latest vmware image? 2008-06-18T16:23:02 I _think_ it was whatever was bundled with 1.2.2.1 2008-06-18T16:23:18 ah, k, thanks 2008-06-18T16:24:02 hah, which it is not, right ? 2008-06-18T16:25:13 so it probably would have been http://svn.open-ils.org/trac/ILS/browser/trunk/Open-ILS/src/extras/Makefile.install?rev=9809 2008-06-18T16:25:17 I grabbed the latest from trunk, got a commands commensce before first target error, then tried the version explicitly mentioned in server_installation:debian_gentoo_ubuntu_prerequisites_makefile, and got a spidermonkey compile error.. but am re-running it and it seems to have gotten farther 2008-06-18T16:25:50 ugh - "commands commence before first target error"? 2008-06-18T16:25:57 yessir 2008-06-18T16:25:59 that would probably be my handiwork from last night. 2008-06-18T16:26:23 worked on CentOS! 2008-06-18T16:26:26 *sigh* 2008-06-18T16:27:41 phasefx_: what were you running on? 2008-06-18T16:28:31 debian etch in a virtualbox (am not sure if it's 64-bit or not) 2008-06-18T16:28:59 frickin' weird 2008-06-18T16:29:50 i'll give it (the latest) a spin on debian etch here 2008-06-18T16:34:42 phasefx_: fix is coming - one sec 2008-06-18T16:35:58 dbs++ 2008-06-18T16:36:20 I'll let this one finish and then try the latest afterward 2008-06-18T16:36:33 done 2008-06-18T16:41:02 any objections to my copying Makefile.install right into rel_1_2 and rel_1_2_2? 2008-06-18T16:41:16 it would simplify install a little bit 2008-06-18T16:42:11 dbs: you mean instead of backporting? 2008-06-18T16:42:53 berick: well, Makefile.install doesn't exist in rel_1_2*; so I was thinking of just "svn cp ..." 2008-06-18T16:43:24 that way you get it with your tarball, instead of requiring a separate wget 2008-06-18T16:43:34 oh, yeah.. i say copy away 2008-06-18T16:44:01 or *cough* svn:external to the trunk version (j/k) 2008-06-18T16:44:21 svn's version of symlinking ;) 2008-06-18T16:44:21 svn:external only pulls in full directories, yeah? 2008-06-18T16:55:14 phasefx_: spidermonkey just built quite nicely using the latest version of makefile.install on my debian etch 32-bit machine 2008-06-18T16:55:19 now I gotta go 2008-06-18T16:56:03 dbs: thanks mang, it's still churning for me 2008-06-18T16:56:38 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-06-18T17:01:41 hrmm, it's actually failing on libxml for me 2008-06-18T17:31:33 looks like more rebooting was required to get things working 2008-06-18T19:56:22 *** Karen__ has quit IRC 2008-06-18T20:00:00 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-18T20:25:48 *** gmcharlt_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-06-18T20:29:18 *** gmcharlt_ is now known as gmcharlt 2008-06-18T20:48:10 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2008-06-18T21:33:54 rjw picked up on my blog post... innarestin 2008-06-18T21:34:11 http://blogs.talis.com/panlibus/archives/2008/06/when-is-open-source-not-open-source-when-it-is-not-shared.php 2008-06-18T21:35:55 * miker_ waits for the "see, evergreen isn't OPEN" posts ;) 2008-06-18T21:37:59 yeah, I wasn't sure if rjw was taking a stab at me or not... I need to be hit with a 2x4 sometimes 2008-06-18T21:39:22 I don't think so ... my tin-foil-hat alert did not go off ... but it was a shot at opensource to a degree 2008-06-18T21:41:03 "open source can't cure AIDS!" 2008-06-18T21:41:13 yeah 2008-06-18T21:42:27 Gah, I apologize to anyone suffering from AIDS. Not quite the same scale of concern. 2008-06-18T21:46:46 *** gmcharlt has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-06-18T21:53:48 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2008-06-18T22:05:19 berick: still up for co-authoring an article on the wonders of opensrf? 2008-06-18T22:07:13 dbs: i am. i find myself presently saturated with rfp copy, which takes the desire to write english words right out of me 2008-06-18T22:07:47 oh. well we could write en français 2008-06-18T22:07:56 hmm, maybe i can commit a well-documented Perl script to #c4lj 2008-06-18T22:08:02 ah, now yr thinking 2008-06-18T22:08:34 okay - super - I'll put a proposal together and float it past you 2008-06-18T22:08:38 "le raison d'être d'OpenSRF est le ..." 2008-06-18T22:12:40 tres bien, berick! je vais donner un grande étoile pour vous 2008-06-18T22:13:24 * berick looks up étoile 2008-06-18T22:13:44 hmm. how about "Implementing academic reserves in Evergreen: a case study"? 2008-06-18T22:14:35 i like.. doing something fruitful 2008-06-18T22:15:05 indeed, there's no time for twaddle 2008-06-18T22:15:33 * dbs starts futzing with centos again - KIDDING 2008-06-18T22:15:59 has code been written for reserves? 2008-06-18T22:16:10 no 2008-06-18T22:16:42 I keep on veering away from doing anything useful. 2008-06-18T22:16:43 I have about 10% of the MFHD parser written 2008-06-18T22:17:31 heh 2008-06-18T22:17:39 and /no one/ wants to read about MFHD 2008-06-18T22:18:19 i know it's been discussed at various times.. is there a general plan for reserves or do we need to do that first? 2008-06-18T22:19:33 * miker_ stumbles in 2008-06-18T22:19:39 well, IOW, is the intention to implement reserves and document the experience, or slightly more pie-in-da-sky'ing it. I'd like to implement, but not sure of the scope, exactly 2008-06-18T22:19:58 right, there is definitely a general plan 2008-06-18T22:21:50 dbs: remind me ... given some hypothetical library (one org unit) there will be one "reserves shelf", yes? 2008-06-18T22:22:34 we'll need a course schema; courses can have one or more instructors (actor.usr link would be the easiest way to accomplish this), a course name, a course code, and probably some time association ("2008 Winter") 2008-06-18T22:22:52 one org unit may have one or more "reserves" shelves 2008-06-18T22:22:56 k 2008-06-18T22:24:33 then you map copies to courses; and (temporarily) apply a different location & circ rule to the copies 2008-06-18T22:25:16 when the course ends, the copies go back to their regular circ rule & location 2008-06-18T22:27:13 and the "ground state" status for things on reserve should be "Reserves" instead of "Available" ... eh? Easy short-circut flag 2008-06-18T22:27:26 extra points if we can temporarily assign a different "barcode" too, but I'm not too fussy about that personally 2008-06-18T22:27:52 different barcode? what's the use case there? 2008-06-18T22:28:00 that would make sense - as long as "Reserves" is opac-visible 2008-06-18T22:28:27 it's not by default, but that's easily changed 2008-06-18T22:28:50 the use case is that for items on "closed reserve" (behind the circ desk), students have to ask for a particular item... so it's easier to ask for "item #456" than by call num or barcode 2008-06-18T22:29:13 ooh (duh), make that a temporary callnum I guess 2008-06-18T22:29:25 in fact, it's about time for statuses to get a separate opac visibility flag 2008-06-18T22:30:14 dbs: how about surfacing some "course reserve id" instead of moving to a different call number? 2008-06-18T22:30:18 all grist for the c4lj mill 2008-06-18T22:30:27 miker_: sure, that would work 2008-06-18T22:31:13 a serial column in the course:copy relation, say 2008-06-18T22:32:04 sure 2008-06-18T22:32:56 instructors put ephemeral stuff (photocopies) on reserve too; worst case scenario, one would create a basic template for that in the marc editor 2008-06-18T22:34:03 best case would be something like circulating a non-cat (pre-cat?) item - just a quick'n'dirty way of giving a title/author/barcode 2008-06-18T22:34:33 hrm ... a "create ultra-slim record for reserve items" interface for an instructor to put in title/author/subject/etc 2008-06-18T22:34:34 brandon++ 2008-06-18T22:35:04 problem with pre-cat (my first thought too) is no searchy in opac 2008-06-18T22:35:09 ah 2008-06-18T22:35:40 yeah, a simple web form could be taught how to do that 2008-06-18T22:37:01 on the "how do we get things on reserve" side of the fence, maybe we could soup up bookbags so that an instructor could say "put this crap on reserve; here's the course ID, course name, and here's the date the course is over" for a given bookbag, and have it automatically go into transit 2008-06-18T22:37:59 hrm... well, there wouldn't necessarily be a transit ... transits are only between org units 2008-06-18T22:38:03 transit, or holds pulling, or some variation thereof 2008-06-18T22:38:06 right 2008-06-18T22:38:09 something, yeah 2008-06-18T22:39:04 "pull these things which are in a course reserve, but not yet in the "reserves" status, which will happen at the next "checkin" scan and tell you where to stick them" 2008-06-18T22:40:03 right on - that piece would make our circ staff weep with joy in comparison to our current hell 2008-06-18T22:46:29 should reserve items show as "available" in the opac? 2008-06-18T22:47:07 Yep 2008-06-18T22:47:14 hrm... 2008-06-18T22:47:17 ok 2008-06-18T22:47:27 unless of course they're checked out 2008-06-18T22:48:27 no library I know checks to see if the student requesting the item actually belongs to the course for which the item is on reserve 2008-06-18T22:49:42 k 2008-06-18T22:51:59 "Case study: we talked about things in IRC for a while, then miker_ went into a coding frenzy and academic reserves showed up a few hours later" 2008-06-18T22:52:36 ha 2008-06-18T22:52:44 no, just laying some groundwork 2008-06-18T22:53:06 status 12 is "available" in counts now, and config.copy_status has an opac_visible field 2008-06-18T22:55:06 *** phase_bb has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-18T23:08:46 berick: the reserves/status-opac_visible stuff will require a dev update/restart/autogen (jfyi ... saw advanced search commits) 2008-06-18T23:10:38 i have just the konsole tab open for such a task 2008-06-18T23:10:50 heh 2008-06-18T23:11:25 btw, is the copy_location filter in effect now? I see the UI, but it doesn't seem to change the results 2008-06-18T23:11:38 right. just the UI so far 2008-06-18T23:11:43 righto 2008-06-18T23:15:23 I wonder if it should just show up (somewhere) if you're searching a can_have_vols location? 2008-06-18T23:16:04 I see we've run out of space on the right ... but I wonder if having to use the link is ... to non-obvious 2008-06-18T23:16:06 too 2008-06-18T23:16:07 miker_: you thinkging along the right side of the page.. 2008-06-18T23:16:08 heh 2008-06-18T23:16:16 right 2008-06-18T23:17:04 i fairly symmetrical now, but i don't think adding another box along the right will make it look too crazy 2008-06-18T23:17:13 and i can see what you mean by non-obvious 2008-06-18T23:17:26 s/i fairly/it's fairly/ 2008-06-18T23:28:28 whatchoo talking about? I see nothing new on dev.gapines.org 2008-06-18T23:29:06 dbs: advanced search page, while searching a branch (athens clarke-county is a good example) 2008-06-18T23:29:15 ah, advanced! 2008-06-18T23:32:23 pretty cool 2008-06-18T23:33:30 after acq & serials & i18n & academic reserves it might be time to start dojo-izing some of the opac interfaces - accordionize the right-hand side of the advanced search, for example 2008-06-18T23:35:07 yeah, i've been hesitating becuase dojo is big. it's one thing to use it by itself, but to use it in addition to all the JS that's needed to run the existing interfaces.. 2008-06-18T23:36:42 it would make building new UI bits a lot easier, though 2008-06-18T23:42:09 true. but miker_ keeps insisting it's just 23K compressed :) 2008-06-18T23:42:54 maybe so. i've never actually looked 2008-06-18T23:44:06 the other thing with dojo is that it seems to be really geared toward putting as much UI into a single page as possible (IOW, don't go to a new URL if you can put the logic into this page somewhere) 2008-06-18T23:45:23 I'll admit that I find it weird for the "Submit search" and "Reset" buttons to be in the middle of the page 2008-06-18T23:45:44 (re: bill ott's patch) 2008-06-18T23:46:23 I actually like submit/reset down at the bottom 2008-06-18T23:46:26 well, putting Reset at the bottom implies that it's going to reset the whole form, which the patch doesn't 2008-06-18T23:46:32 ahh 2008-06-18T23:46:41 it just clears the text inputs 2008-06-18T23:46:55 but the submit at the top is a advsubmitglobal 2008-06-18T23:46:55 http://www.sitepen.com/blog/2008/04/02/dojo-mini-optimization-tricks-with-the-dojo-toolkit/ 2008-06-18T23:46:59 it could be extended, of course 2008-06-18T23:48:04 http://dojotoolkit.org/2008/06/04/5-minute-custom-build 2008-06-18T23:49:23 not that I've tried to do either of those, mind you 2008-06-18T23:49:46 i wonder if my concern with dojo is more about page parse and render time than download time. i just notice that the ACQ interfaces alway hang for a noticable amount of time between initial page (with visible "stuff" in strange places on the screen) and nice rendered page 2008-06-18T23:50:10 of course, if you're clicking around once the page has loaded, it's fine 2008-06-18T23:50:18 nice and fast 2008-06-18T23:52:01 not that I've tried to actually do anything about it, of course 2008-06-18T23:52:39 looking at firebug, I would tend to blame downloading 100 nested files 2008-06-18T23:52:59 which layers et al is supposed to solve (shoves everything into on compactified JS file) 2008-06-18T23:53:20 yeah, i bet the really would speed things up 2008-06-18T23:54:54 * berick takes 2 dogs out for adventure 2008-06-18T23:55:27 i thought part of that sluggishness was due to perm-checking on every object 2008-06-18T23:55:45 * dbs tries to get to bed before midnight 2008-06-18T23:56:00 dbs: it is on my interfaces 2008-06-18T23:56:07 kbeswick: your opensrf autotoolsification looks good 2008-06-18T23:56:25 ah, okay miker_ 2008-06-18T23:56:27 * dbs goes to bed