2008-06-25T00:13:32 *** phasefx has quit IRC 2008-06-25T00:13:32 *** sarabee has quit IRC 2008-06-25T00:13:50 *** sarabee has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T00:13:50 *** phasefx has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T00:25:49 * dbs hits send on a magnum opus. blah. 2008-06-25T00:52:36 dbs: good points all, though we think differently on some of the details ;) 2008-06-25T00:53:58 miker_: oh man. we have to communicate and consider each other's perspectives? 2008-06-25T00:54:01 dbs: fwiw, I think 8.2 as the recommended verision for 1.4 would be best ... as for testing, everything does get tested on 8.1 right now, though not necessarily before commit 2008-06-25T00:54:07 haha 2008-06-25T00:54:10 NO 2008-06-25T00:54:15 YOU MUST BEND TO MY WILL! 2008-06-25T00:54:22 or something 2008-06-25T00:54:24 or ... no 2008-06-25T00:54:25 t 2008-06-25T00:54:28 * dbs heads to merge/marriage counselling 2008-06-25T00:54:36 :) 2008-06-25T00:55:12 miker_: heh - for some definition of "everything" right? 2008-06-25T00:55:29 well, everything that anyone will be using in production "soon" 2008-06-25T00:56:14 here are some of my argument for not jumping to 8.3: 2008-06-25T00:56:16 everything != every opensrf api and every possible staff client interface and opac interaction - just guessing :) 2008-06-25T00:56:54 * current majority of production deployments is debian etch 2008-06-25T00:56:57 no! /me shields eyes 2008-06-25T00:57:03 I have to go to bed!!! 2008-06-25T00:57:14 * 8.2 is the most tested for trunk 2008-06-25T00:57:27 heh ... ok, we can do this later ... oh, jeez... it's 1 2008-06-25T00:57:29 yeah 2008-06-25T00:57:34 exactly :) 2008-06-25T00:57:59 ok ... think you might have time for a call tomorrow sometime? 2008-06-25T00:58:02 I'm just updating my debian etch vmware image to prepare to test out kbeswick's autotools patch 2008-06-25T00:58:12 (testing will actually be done tomorrow morning) 2008-06-25T00:58:18 :) 2008-06-25T00:58:32 tomorrow afternoon, perhaps - big library planning meeting will suck up most of the morning 2008-06-25T00:59:02 afternoon is best for me as well 2008-06-25T00:59:04 I was looking forward to skipping out at 11:00 for the dev meeting but oh well :) 2008-06-25T00:59:12 ha! 2008-06-25T00:59:30 well, you could. it'll just be the "mike and dan deathmatch dev meeting" ;) 2008-06-25T00:59:49 "two versions of postgres enter, only one leaves" 2008-06-25T00:59:58 7.4? wtf? 2008-06-25T01:00:07 ha! 6.3! 2008-06-25T01:00:14 * dbs vomits 2008-06-25T01:00:29 running on VALinux 7.1 2008-06-25T01:00:42 with the BigMem patch 2008-06-25T01:01:27 * miker_ looks for the apt package for linux-kernel-2.0.33 2008-06-25T01:01:45 dangit, where's my 14 slackware floppies 2008-06-25T01:02:20 I think that will make a good addition to the wiki for April 1, 2009 2008-06-25T01:02:43 right next to my bsd386 boot disk 2008-06-25T01:02:51 ha! yes 2008-06-25T01:03:55 or, we excitedly announce the Evergreen port to Amiga 2008-06-25T01:04:13 -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =- 2008-06-25T01:04:14 BeOS :) 2008-06-25T01:04:51 hehehehe ... hurd :) 2008-06-25T01:05:35 * dbs wonders whether when you port EG to BeOS you would just deal directly with the whole filesystem = database 2008-06-25T01:05:50 hurd, lovingly caressed by rms 2008-06-25T01:06:45 opensrf apps as windows kernel services :) 2008-06-25T01:07:15 using the Cairo relational FS 2008-06-25T01:07:18 hahaha 2008-06-25T01:07:19 ahhh 2008-06-25T01:07:21 I kill me 2008-06-25T01:08:37 someone has to 2008-06-25T01:09:50 ok ... let's try for tomorrow afternoon 2008-06-25T01:12:33 ok. and integrate this into the opac by then, mmkay: http://zoomii.com 2008-06-25T01:13:58 on it 2008-06-25T01:22:32 gnite 2008-06-25T01:22:34 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-06-25T04:29:03 *** pmurray_away has quit IRC 2008-06-25T04:29:03 *** agJohn has quit IRC 2008-06-25T04:29:24 *** agJohn has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T04:29:24 *** pmurray_away has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T07:50:44 *** pmurray_away has quit IRC 2008-06-25T07:51:27 *** pmurray has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T08:01:11 *** mjg_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T08:01:15 *** mjg_ has left #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T08:12:52 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T08:38:50 *** Slazer has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T08:41:11 *** kbeswick has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T08:52:39 *** kbeswick has quit IRC 2008-06-25T08:55:00 *** kbeswick has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T08:57:05 kbeswick: check your Laurentian mail in a few minutes 2008-06-25T09:02:24 dbs: i can fix the "header trickery" very easily 2008-06-25T09:02:55 and autotoolize pretty much anything that copys files to a certain directory 2008-06-25T09:03:24 kbeswick: can you fix it after the current patch is merged? I don't have time to go through all the testing again this morning, and don't want to hold you up 2008-06-25T09:04:03 oh, crap - I meant to mention that all the files should have copyright & license headers on them 2008-06-25T09:04:07 GAH 2008-06-25T09:04:12 haha ok ill do that 2008-06-25T09:04:54 I assume that you've worked out the copyright vs. author credits with your corporate overlords 2008-06-25T09:06:27 typical approach for a work-for-hire is "Copyright 2008 Employer" followed by "Author: Kevin Beswick ", followed by the GPL v2 header 2008-06-25T09:07:35 so Copyright 2008 Equinox? 2008-06-25T09:07:39 or? 2008-06-25T09:07:58 or am I technically my own company just doing work for equinox 2008-06-25T09:08:22 *** Slazer has quit IRC 2008-06-25T09:08:33 kbeswick: see the top of Open-ILS/src/sql/Pg/300.schema.staged_search.sql 2008-06-25T09:08:39 in trunk 2008-06-25T09:08:43 ok 2008-06-25T09:09:22 miker_: glad you caught the opensearch thread; now you understand why I pointed to the validator. 2008-06-25T09:09:24 excellent 2008-06-25T09:09:54 I thought it was a bit weird how godmar instantly dismissed EG 2008-06-25T09:10:01 2008-06-25T09:10:17 dbs: there's a lot that's flown by this month that I've wanted to respond to, but with 6 migrations ... :P 2008-06-25T09:10:27 yeah, godmar is like that sometimes 2008-06-25T09:10:57 trust me, he dropped my i18n patches for libx on the floor late 2006 2008-06-25T09:11:07 "if it's not libx it's not worth talking about. and also, why did you write such horrible code that is broken in many ways." 2008-06-25T09:11:14 haha 2008-06-25T09:11:15 gah 2008-06-25T09:11:23 on the bright side, that was all xul i18n stuff, so it gave me a good grounding for eg 2008-06-25T09:11:25 *** Slazer has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T09:11:32 indeed 2008-06-25T09:11:51 and y'all were desperate enough to accept my patches 2008-06-25T09:13:02 and now we can't stop 'em! 2008-06-25T09:13:15 miker_: i never get a response from those urls you sent for opensearch 2008-06-25T09:13:18 oh wait 2008-06-25T09:13:19 there we go 2008-06-25T09:13:33 some conneg, man! 2008-06-25T09:13:53 eh? 2008-06-25T09:14:13 what mime-type is this? 2008-06-25T09:14:17 it's look like text/plain 2008-06-25T09:14:19 which 2008-06-25T09:14:26 or text/html 2008-06-25T09:14:30 the marcxml stuff 2008-06-25T09:14:31 oh, that's just firefox getting confused 2008-06-25T09:14:34 oh :) 2008-06-25T09:14:47 because there are xhtml elements inside the marcxml 2008-06-25T09:15:00 miker_: oh, ok 2008-06-25T09:15:27 hense the (view source) note :) 2008-06-25T09:15:47 miker_: do you think this is a better approach (sending a stream of marcxml) than putting the records in the content tag? 2008-06-25T09:15:53 *** kbeswick has quit IRC 2008-06-25T09:16:21 of atom, i mean 2008-06-25T09:17:41 *** kbeswick has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T09:22:22 for getting detailed library metadata, perhaps 2008-06-25T09:25:32 well, actually, wrapping the full marcxml in an atom content tag is just as good 2008-06-25T09:26:03 better, actually 2008-06-25T09:26:56 so ... no :) 2008-06-25T09:29:51 rsinger: but, that mechanism was built to send any random record format as a top level response to opensearch queries ... based on the opensearch 1.1 format extensibility (which, while I impmemented it, I still think is more confusing than it's worth ... I think atom (without marcxml)is enough for building human interfaces) 2008-06-25T09:31:00 the marcxml result format is meant for MARC-understanding processes to deal with ... ILS-to-ILS transfers, not ILS-to-discovery-layer. 2008-06-25T09:31:25 haha 2008-06-25T09:31:33 yeah, that makes sense 2008-06-25T09:31:35 the "slimpac" (html-full response format) is built on top the atom response format 2008-06-25T09:32:00 and i think there's definitely a use case for each 2008-06-25T09:32:02 marcxml->atom->html via xslt times 2 2008-06-25T09:32:07 right 2008-06-25T09:32:10 * rsinger vomits. 2008-06-25T09:32:14 ha 2008-06-25T09:32:25 so you have a marcxml->atom xslt? 2008-06-25T09:32:35 neat 2008-06-25T09:32:41 indeed I do, though it's far from perfect 2008-06-25T09:32:59 i have long thought we need an xsl repository 2008-06-25T09:33:16 http://svn.open-ils.org/trac/ILS/browser/trunk/Open-ILS/xsl 2008-06-25T09:42:00 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-06-25T09:43:00 biab 2008-06-25T10:37:47 *** djfiander has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-06-25T10:54:22 phasefx2: we should put the demo patrons and demo vol/copy generation scripts into the evergreen-contrib repo 2008-06-25T10:55:20 * phasefx pokes phasefx2 2008-06-25T10:55:39 is evergreen-contrib different than the other contrib where we're supposed to make proposals on list? 2008-06-25T10:56:08 phasefx2: same thing.. s/put/propose/, i suppose 2008-06-25T10:56:27 okay, you propose, I second. Sounds good to me :D 2008-06-25T10:56:37 politics++ 2008-06-25T10:56:39 ;) 2008-06-25T11:07:10 denials: poke 2008-06-25T11:15:29 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T12:48:30 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-06-25T12:50:56 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:02:10 *** agJohn has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:02:10 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:02:10 *** Slazer has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:02:10 *** phasefx has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:02:10 *** sarabee has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:02:10 *** eeevil has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:02:10 *** phasefx_ has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:02:10 *** phase_bb has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:02:10 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:02:10 *** jeff has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:02:10 *** djfiander has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:02:10 *** denials has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:02:10 *** asmodai has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:02:10 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:02:10 *** phasefx2 has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:02:10 *** berick has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:02:10 *** kados has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:02:10 *** pmurray has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:02:10 *** bradl has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:02:10 *** lisppaste6 has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:02:10 *** miker_ has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:02:10 *** kbeswick has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:02:35 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:02:35 *** djfiander has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:02:35 *** kbeswick has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:02:35 *** Slazer has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:02:35 *** pmurray has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:02:35 *** agJohn has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:02:35 *** phasefx has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:02:35 *** sarabee has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:02:35 *** gmcharlt has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:02:35 *** jeff has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:02:35 *** phase_bb has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:02:35 *** lisppaste6 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:02:35 *** kados has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:02:35 *** berick has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:02:35 *** bradl has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:02:35 *** miker_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:02:35 *** rsinger has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:02:35 *** asmodai has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:02:35 *** phasefx2 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:02:35 *** eeevil has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:02:35 *** phasefx_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:02:35 *** denials has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:03:13 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:03:13 *** Slazer has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:03:13 *** sarabee has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:03:13 *** phasefx has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:03:34 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:03:34 *** Slazer has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:03:34 *** sarabee has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:03:34 *** phasefx has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:04:49 *** agJohn has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:04:49 *** phasefx_ has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:04:49 *** eeevil has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:04:49 *** kbeswick has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:05:30 *** eeevil has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:05:30 *** phasefx_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:09:09 *** kbeswick has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:09:27 *** agJohn has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:12:45 *** agJohn has quit IRC 2008-06-25T13:13:00 *** agJohn has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:18:47 *** fGrant has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T13:18:55 Good Day eh 2008-06-25T13:19:02 Good Day eh! 2008-06-25T13:19:31 islandpines is down with $feed error 2008-06-25T13:28:01 * dbs curses miker_ / eeevil 2008-06-25T13:28:15 (who is probably already looking at it) 2008-06-25T13:34:42 fGrant: it's up 2008-06-25T13:35:53 fGrant: problem was the patch got overwritten locally by my svn update. 2008-06-25T13:40:54 Thanks 2008-06-25T13:41:13 I'm fighting with how to manage that as well. 2008-06-25T13:45:10 * dbs can't resist suggesting bzr with the bzr-svn plugin to manage a local branch of the central svn repo 2008-06-25T13:45:36 ha 2008-06-25T13:46:05 dbs loves bzr/bzr-svn 2008-06-25T13:46:31 kbeswick: shouldn't you be sending out a patch right around now? 2008-06-25T13:46:34 :) 2008-06-25T13:47:17 dbs: on it ;) 2008-06-25T13:47:32 dbs: how about 4pm? 2008-06-25T13:47:41 eeevil: sure 2008-06-25T14:20:43 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-06-25T14:21:30 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T14:30:53 *** fGrant has quit IRC 2008-06-25T14:31:31 I'll merge kbeswick's patch 2008-06-25T14:34:34 ugh - err, kbeswick, you took miker_'s pointer to the header a little too strictly methinks 2008-06-25T14:34:48 as (as far as I know), you haven't been working on this since 2007... 2008-06-25T14:34:51 haha 2008-06-25T14:34:52 oops 2008-06-25T14:35:00 I'll fix it up, never you mind 2008-06-25T14:35:05 k thanks 2008-06-25T14:37:49 * berick rolls up his sleeves and starts autotooling 2008-06-25T14:39:38 berick : fyi i added /usr/sbin to be in the path when you run configure now 2008-06-25T14:40:58 ah, cool 2008-06-25T14:58:34 kbeswick: do you feel like a huge weight has been lifted off your shoulders? 2008-06-25T14:58:57 no 2008-06-25T14:59:01 well 2008-06-25T14:59:03 maybe 2008-06-25T14:59:11 not until the other beast is done 2008-06-25T14:59:34 i think i just had a dbs moment. 2008-06-25T16:02:26 I live 2008-06-25T16:02:37 bang 2008-06-25T16:03:36 So much for that. 2008-06-25T16:04:51 *** kbeswick has quit IRC 2008-06-25T16:24:03 *** rsinger is now known as edsu 2008-06-25T16:24:56 time to head out for grade 8 grad 2008-06-25T16:25:05 boy am I glad to finally get that out of the way. 2008-06-25T16:25:14 *** djfiander has quit IRC 2008-06-25T16:30:35 *** edsu is now known as rsinger 2008-06-25T17:58:07 *** Slazer has quit IRC 2008-06-25T18:12:20 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-06-25T20:15:10 *** peanutb has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-25T20:18:14 hey, is GPLS/PINES based in Atlanta, and if so, could anyone give me a tour/meet up to talk about random tech stuff etc? 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