2008-09-09T00:29:53 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-09-09T00:36:34 *** phase_bb has quit IRC 2008-09-09T01:30:10 *** Mark__T has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-09T01:59:38 *** rsinger has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-09-09T02:00:28 *** rsinger has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-09-09T02:06:34 *** sylvar has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-09T02:08:00 Good morning. Does anyone have a two-server opensrf_core.xml they'd be willing to share with me? I'd like to get this postgres server take over duties for the postgres installation on the virtual server. 2008-09-09T02:16:44 *** rsinger_ has quit IRC 2008-09-09T07:30:01 *** Mark__T has left #openils-evergreen 2008-09-09T07:30:57 *** Mark__T has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-09T07:56:27 *** phase_bb has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-09T08:54:31 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-09T08:55:19 hey kbeswick_ - are you on the clock today? 2008-09-09T09:16:39 *** _dkyle1 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-09T09:40:44 Good morning. Does anyone have a two-server opensrf_core.xml they'd be willing to share with me? I'd like to get this postgres server take over duties for the postgres installation on the virtual server. 2008-09-09T09:43:54 sylvar: so - I don't think anything needs to be changed in opensrf_core.xml 2008-09-09T09:44:24 opensrf_core.xml doesn't know anything about the database(s) 2008-09-09T09:45:04 OK, I was confused by step 18 in http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=installing_evergreen_1.2_on_ubuntu_7.10 2008-09-09T09:45:21 specifically, "Let’s just specify localhost throughout for a single-server install" 2008-09-09T09:46:11 so it's just a matter of changing 'localhost' in all the Postgres-related sections of opensrf.xml? 2008-09-09T09:48:20 sylvar: well, hostname/username/password/port to match whatever you use with "psql" to connect to your remote database server - but yeah 2008-09-09T09:48:35 OK, cool. 2008-09-09T09:51:05 Now why on earth did I think I needed to change anything? I'm already using the remote database server! *sigh* This is what comes of spending long nights dealing with a corrupted Windows installation... 2008-09-09T09:52:30 heh / sorry to hear that 2008-09-09T10:00:35 *** Mark__T has quit IRC 2008-09-09T10:16:12 Well, that's weird. I can do a search in the OPAC for harry potter and it works fine. When I search in staff mode, it displays the search as "keyword:harry potter" and shows me results 1-10 of about NaN. (No actual results, though.) 2008-09-09T10:16:38 Though if I edit the search in the staff client, in the search results page, and run it again, it works fine. 2008-09-09T10:17:19 So which question should I be asking -- "why does the staff client add 'keyword:'?", or "why does adding 'keyword:' cause a problem?"? 2008-09-09T10:19:26 your first search for "harry potter" probably timed out 2008-09-09T10:19:45 search for "harry potter -boogaloo" and it will probably return 2008-09-09T10:21:18 ah. indeed, just rerunning that original search worked fine. 2008-09-09T10:21:47 *** sylvar has quit IRC 2008-09-09T10:31:10 *** mlasater has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-09-09T10:41:45 eeevil: I wonder if we'll be able to hold off on our purchase of production hardware long enough to get a nice SSD array for database storage 2008-09-09T10:58:44 * dbs hits head against fm_IDL i18n... 2008-09-09T10:59:49 I extract all of the reporter:label attributes with their xpath so that they can be translated, but currently don't have a good spot to put the translations 2008-09-09T11:21:52 *** wlayton has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-09T11:37:02 Option #1 would be to offer fm_IDL.xml in just one language per system, but that's not so cool. 2008-09-09T11:38:03 The alternatives, though, don't seem fun. I had been generating the translations as a set of entities, so we could use DTDs to swap languages 2008-09-09T11:38:21 but switching between languages would be pretty disruptive to the system, methinks. 2008-09-09T11:39:08 "Hey fieldmapper, you know how you just parsed fm_IDL.xml in en-US? Well, go do it again, this time for hy-AM." bleh 2008-09-09T11:45:47 hmm - checking oils_idl-core.c, it doesn't seem to care about reporter:label atts; maybe it is just reporter that needs love 2008-09-09T11:48:35 so as part of the build, then, I could generate an fm_reporter_IDL.xml that uses entities for reporter:label defs and the usual mod_xmlent / SSI $locale trickery to load the right DTD 2008-09-09T11:48:57 @monologue 2008-09-09T11:48:57 dbs: Your current monologue is at least 10 lines long. 2008-09-09T11:49:41 <- looking forward to terabyte scale sticks of ram 2008-09-09T11:50:24 <- looking forward to when that sounds quaint ;) 2008-09-09T11:50:34 *** kgregory has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-09T11:50:40 who, hey kgregory 2008-09-09T11:50:45 er, whoa 2008-09-09T11:51:05 this be murph; i'm showing kgregory how to use the channels 2008-09-09T11:51:14 ah, hey gang 2008-09-09T11:51:30 *** kgs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-09T11:51:36 you use the channels via the tubes, of course :) 2008-09-09T11:51:59 *** kgregory is now known as kgreg 2008-09-09T11:52:04 *** kgreg is now known as kgregory 2008-09-09T11:56:08 an important thing to do is castigate dbs for not sending you edited documents 2008-09-09T12:06:00 dbs: i am on the clock now 2008-09-09T12:26:56 *** djfiander has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-09-09T12:27:08 bradl++ 2008-09-09T12:34:48 dbs: I hope you're currently working on a 1.2.3.0 vmware image! 2008-09-09T12:36:21 haha 2008-09-09T12:37:57 I am no responsible for "Mike's Famous Harley Davidson dealership"? http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/MFHD 2008-09-09T12:38:04 s/no /now 2008-09-09T12:45:33 djfiander: yes 2008-09-09T12:49:42 cool 2008-09-09T13:05:26 hrm. i'm having trouble trying to use demo.gapines.org with the 1.2.3.0 staff client. "There was an error testing this hostname" 2008-09-09T13:05:33 what are my next steps to troubleshoot? 2008-09-09T13:06:49 jeff: demo.gapines.org is down due to hardware failure 2008-09-09T13:07:10 aha! 2008-09-09T13:07:13 eeevil: you got 1.2.3.1 coming out tonight? 2008-09-09T13:07:13 simple. thanks! 2008-09-09T13:07:18 dbs: any eta? 2008-09-09T13:07:29 jeff: not my jurisdiction :) 2008-09-09T13:08:14 djfiander: I would commit my fledgling bits of an MFHD parser that date back to one afternoon in May, but it's probably not worth it for you 2008-09-09T13:10:07 djfiander: ah, just got the email exchange - there isn't much to talk about, honestly. 2008-09-09T13:10:32 the extremely rough plan was to write a parser that, given a chunk of MFHD, would be able to generate a set of issuances (expected issues) relative to a given date 2008-09-09T13:10:43 dbs: well, you know more about it than I do. 2008-09-09T13:10:51 like, a stand-alone utility? 2008-09-09T13:11:15 one could wrap an opensrf service around it relatively easy I think 2008-09-09T13:12:25 ok. 2008-09-09T13:12:36 this sums up the big picture: http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=acq:serials:model 2008-09-09T13:12:38 I shall endeavour to spend the next few days reading standards again :) 2008-09-09T13:13:24 http://www.loc.gov/marc/holdings/echdhome.html will be your new best friend 2008-09-09T13:13:33 yup. already found it. 2008-09-09T13:14:51 *** djfiander has quit IRC 2008-09-09T13:15:24 ah hell, I'll commit what I had so far 2008-09-09T13:21:55 *** atheos has quit IRC 2008-09-09T13:39:30 *** kgregory has quit IRC 2008-09-09T13:57:40 dbs: indeed, 1.2.3.1 today 2008-09-09T13:59:24 eeevil: right-o 2008-09-09T13:59:44 *** rsinger_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-09-09T14:03:33 * dbs starts dreaming up how to screw up the vmware image this time 2008-09-09T14:04:10 apt-get install lolcats 2008-09-09T14:07:03 dbs: ugh, that reminds me I had intended to fix some things for you with the image 2008-09-09T14:07:21 phasefx: bah, I've got to rebuild anyways 2008-09-09T14:07:30 * phasefx back-tracks on the road to hell :) 2008-09-09T14:07:31 this time I'll have the symlinks correct 2008-09-09T14:07:56 are you doing a from-scratch install? 2008-09-09T14:08:21 * dbs realizes to his delight that he already coded the "generate entity-ized version of fm_IDL.xml" routine 2008-09-09T14:08:25 phasefx: no sir 2008-09-09T14:08:31 dbs: just curious 2008-09-09T14:08:51 gmail through me into its french version from me having played with those locale prefs yesterday 2008-09-09T14:08:56 s/through/threw 2008-09-09T14:10:28 I was like, sacrebleu 2008-09-09T14:11:24 which I imagine no one really ever says 2008-09-09T14:13:05 tabernacle 2008-09-09T14:15:43 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-09-09T14:18:34 so the really rough plan here is to generate a version of fm_IDL.xml that uses entities for reporter:label attributes, with a call to a mod_xmlent'ed DTD from /opac/locale/${locale}/fm_IDL.dtd 2008-09-09T14:18:56 *** rsinger_ is now known as rsinger 2008-09-09T15:04:31 *** kgs has quit IRC 2008-09-09T15:14:33 dbs: the last of the fr-ca PO files have been sent your way 2008-09-09T15:14:54 wlayton: awesome! 2008-09-09T15:17:35 *** kgs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-09T15:22:32 *** phase_bb has quit IRC 2008-09-09T15:23:36 kbeswick_: a lot of the install stuff in Open-ILS/src/Makefile.am doesn't look like real autotools to me 2008-09-09T15:24:05 rather than all the manual "cp" stuff, I would have expected a "foo_DATA" target 2008-09-09T15:33:54 dbs: i dont think you can install entire directories using a foo_DATA target without specifying each single file in that directory 2008-09-09T15:34:18 dbs: i dont think you can install directories recursively i should say 2008-09-09T15:35:44 kbeswick_: I guess that makes sense. stupid web sites and their stupid recursive directories 2008-09-09T15:36:24 yeah, i was thinking of listing each file individually, but i dont know if that is very efficient for a large number of files 2008-09-09T15:41:08 kbeswick_: any sign of what other projects do? 2008-09-09T15:45:17 any idea of a different project that may have a similar situation? 2008-09-09T15:45:55 ive been searching google code search, but i havent found any examples with as many files 2008-09-09T15:48:07 *** skmurphy_lt___ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-09T15:48:09 *** skmurphy_lt___ is now known as skmurphy_lt 2008-09-09T15:52:49 kbeswick_: sorry dude 2008-09-09T15:53:28 so, one more wrinkle on reporter and fm_IDL.xml - right now, /openils/var/web/reports/fm_IDL.xml is a symlink to /openils/conf/fm_IDL.xml 2008-09-09T15:54:03 so copying the entityized version into /openils/var/web/reports/fm_IDL.xml will bust cstore, I assume 2008-09-09T15:54:06 hmm 2008-09-09T15:55:45 *** sylvar has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-09T15:56:00 yep, cstore can't deal with the entities 2008-09-09T15:56:28 so... will we be okay with the two installed fm_IDL.xml's getting out of sync? 2008-09-09T15:57:17 Hi all! I'm trying to change a user's record so that she can log into the staff client. I've set her password, and I've tried to switch users. I'm pasting her barcode, so I know that's accurate. I'm typing the password just as I did before. But I still get a "login failed". Here's what gateway.log looks like when it happens. 2008-09-09T15:57:25 sylvar pasted "gateway.log" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/66546 2008-09-09T15:58:56 getting out of sync will only happen in the current scenario if you install openils-reporter, then install a new locale, then update fm_IDL.xml and forget to install a new locale 2008-09-09T15:59:05 I've restarted opensrf and that didn't help. I can still log in as admin. I've made the user a member of the Local System Administrator profile group. 2008-09-09T15:59:21 Any other ideas? 2008-09-09T16:00:25 sylvar: look at osrfsys.log 2008-09-09T16:05:48 okay, mountain bike riding time 2008-09-09T16:06:06 ooh, have fun! 2008-09-09T16:06:32 hopefully :) 2008-09-09T16:07:34 sylvar: is that her barcode or her username? I think the staff client only does logins via username 2008-09-09T16:08:31 phasefx: it's both, actually 2008-09-09T16:08:53 berick: osrfsys.log isn't changing as I try to log in. 2008-09-09T16:09:27 berick: though it does contain several errors of the form "[2008-9-9 13:52:25] open-ils.actor [WARN:27629:AppUtils.pm:762:12209700602694041] find_org() did not receive a value for $orgid" 2008-09-09T16:09:46 ...but not at the same time as I'm trying to switch to that user 2008-09-09T16:10:52 side question: what happens if one person is logged in on an account, and a second person tries to log on with the same credentials: 2008-09-09T16:12:36 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-09-09T16:12:51 *** rsinger has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-09-09T16:13:04 I"m pretty sure concurrent logins are allowed 2008-09-09T16:13:44 OK. 2008-09-09T16:14:14 the find_org error makes me wonder if your org tree is self-consistent (everything has a parent, except the top of the tree, and everything has a sane depth/type) 2008-09-09T16:18:07 Might be, might not be. agJohn set it up, so I'm not sure. How can I check? 2008-09-09T16:25:17 Other than asking him; I have, just now. 2008-09-09T16:44:12 could throw everything from actor.org_unit and actor.org_unit_type into a paste bot 2008-09-09T16:44:38 autogen might croak on bad org trees too, but I'm not sure about that 2008-09-09T16:47:05 arg, sorry for sniping and leaving. the find_org error is actually ok, in that case, there's a default involved. osrfsys.log should be getting something, though 2008-09-09T16:47:17 if loglevel is > 2, that is 2008-09-09T16:50:39 *** wlayton has quit IRC 2008-09-09T17:08:36 *** Stompro has quit IRC 2008-09-09T17:32:19 *** brendan_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-09T17:49:21 *** skmurphy_lt has quit IRC 2008-09-09T17:58:06 *** kgs has quit IRC 2008-09-09T18:51:49 *** brendan_ has quit IRC 2008-09-09T18:55:56 *** brendan_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-09T19:31:23 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-09-09T19:40:22 *** rsinger has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-09-09T19:52:35 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-09-09T20:18:41 *** EGUEST771 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-09T20:20:40 *** EGUEST771 has quit IRC 2008-09-09T20:21:00 *** EGUEST188 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-09T20:21:22 *** EGUEST188 has quit IRC 2008-09-09T20:21:35 *** vanassa has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-09T20:24:29 *** vanassa has quit IRC 2008-09-09T21:22:12 * dbs realizes he's been working on stuff most of the day that doesn't have a ticket 2008-09-09T21:23:47 *** rsinger has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-09-09T21:39:01 *** rsinger_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-09-09T21:56:26 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-09-09T22:07:45 *** rsinger_ is now known as rsinger 2008-09-09T22:10:13 *** kgs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-09T22:10:16 dbs: tsk, tsk. 2008-09-09T22:10:30 * dbs creates a ticket to create a ticket 2008-09-09T22:15:28 heh 2008-09-09T22:17:37 * jeff gives himself a random "real name to irc nick" quiz and passes 2008-09-09T22:31:08 *** sylvar has quit IRC 2008-09-09T22:51:16 *** kgs has quit IRC 2008-09-09T23:04:55 miker_: so, another late-night release? :) 2008-09-09T23:09:27 dbs: actually ... I'm getting ready for a 4 day trip, so not today (he said sheepishly) 2008-09-09T23:09:39 * miker_ goes to pack some more 2008-09-09T23:09:53 I wish for your sake you were going on vacation, but I fear that's not the case 2008-09-09T23:10:06 miker_: that's okay, I've been in an i18n groove 2008-09-09T23:10:07 however, I'll have nothing better to do in the hotel tomorrow night 2008-09-09T23:10:16 no, no vacation this time 2008-09-09T23:10:41 but next thursday through the following monday I'll be on a sorta-vacation at a wedding out of town 2008-09-09T23:11:41 * miker_ packs 2008-09-09T23:15:50 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-09-09T23:21:27 *** rsinger has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-09-09T23:23:51 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-09-09T23:48:31 *** dbs has quit IRC