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(got his direct mail, though) 2008-10-03T08:26:45 berick: I _just_ got kgs' post to -general 2008-10-03T08:26:52 which was sent 19 hours ago, apparently 2008-10-03T08:27:11 and no, haven't seen grahamf's post 2008-10-03T08:27:29 great 2008-10-03T08:28:41 -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =- 2008-10-03T08:30:52 -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =- 2008-10-03T08:35:37 *** djfiander has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-10-03T09:06:37 *** djfiander has left #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-10-03T09:07:15 *** rsinger has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-10-03T09:14:36 *** kgs_access has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-03T10:08:25 *** wlayton has quit IRC 2008-10-03T10:36:33 *** wlayton has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-10-03T10:50:08 *** kgs_access has quit IRC 2008-10-03T10:51:27 *** djfiander has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-10-03T10:54:02 *** kgs_access has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-03T11:13:37 *** kgs_access_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-03T11:28:12 oh hey, what's the easiest/best way to configure the staff client to use an http/https proxy server? 2008-10-03T11:30:32 *** kgs_access has quit IRC 2008-10-03T11:39:41 someone figured it once (Don and maybe someone else). There are prefs you can set in prefs.js 2008-10-03T11:40:19 if you look at about:config in firefox (or in the staff client), and search for proxy, you might see some pertinent prefs. I would google for those 2008-10-03T11:43:20 pref(.network.proxy.http., .YOUR_PROXY_SERVER.); 2008-10-03T11:43:20 pref(.network.proxy.http_port., YOUR_PROXY_SERVER_PORT); 2008-10-03T11:43:21 pref(.network.proxy.type., 1); 2008-10-03T11:43:46 that didn't cut & paste correctly, change those outer periods to quotes 2008-10-03T11:47:06 got it to work. 2008-10-03T11:47:25 i set it in greprefs/all.js 2008-10-03T11:48:40 *** kgs_access_ has quit IRC 2008-10-03T11:51:40 next question... where's the knob that you referenced yesterday that tells the client to store profile data in the application directory? 2008-10-03T11:52:34 ah. found that also, i think. 2008-10-03T11:52:43 open-ils.write_in_user_chrome_directory 2008-10-03T11:52:59 dbs: you mention in your trac ticket that the opac language picker should be sorted... was the goal to sort on display label? 2008-10-03T11:54:16 dbs: or just something consistent? my concern with display label is that the order could change depending on the language chosen 2008-10-03T11:54:57 *** wlayton has quit IRC 2008-10-03T11:54:57 *** djfiander has quit IRC 2008-10-03T11:55:06 or... does that not matter as long as they're alphabetically sorted 2008-10-03T12:05:06 *** phase_bb has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-03T12:11:00 *** jamesrf has quit IRC 2008-10-03T12:14:09 oh fun: "This version of the staff client stores local settings in a different location than your previous installation. Should we attempt to migrate these settings?" 2008-10-03T12:48:46 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-10-03T12:59:34 *** djfiander has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-10-03T13:00:10 *** djfiander has left #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-10-03T13:01:39 *** jamesrf has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-03T13:03:15 *** kgs_access_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-03T13:03:21 *** kgs_access_ is now known as kgs_access 2008-10-03T13:03:32 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-03T13:04:16 *** kgs_access_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-03T13:04:37 berick: I kind of thought the order should change depending on the chosen language 2008-10-03T13:05:17 but at the least, sorting according to C locale (so that Armenian doesn't appear after French) 2008-10-03T13:05:28 dbs: that makes sense. i guess if you are not looking at your own language, the order is pretty irrelvent 2008-10-03T13:06:19 i'll just sort on the label.. that's at least easy for people to understand 2008-10-03T13:08:11 berick++ 2008-10-03T13:08:28 *** wlayton has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-10-03T13:13:48 i am finally here again... 2008-10-03T13:14:37 kbeswick_: hey! 2008-10-03T13:14:53 kbeswick_!! 2008-10-03T13:15:50 berick, dbs, hi! 2008-10-03T13:17:49 now to actually get in a couple solid hours of work.. 2008-10-03T13:18:00 dbs: what would you say is the highest priority thing i should be doing? 2008-10-03T13:18:15 * dbs thinks eg_db_config.pl revamp 2008-10-03T13:18:24 alright 2008-10-03T13:18:28 * berick agrees 2008-10-03T13:18:29 * kbeswick_ goes to work 2008-10-03T13:21:55 *** kgs_access has quit IRC 2008-10-03T13:31:41 *** kgs_access_ is now known as kgs_access 2008-10-03T13:42:17 *** djfiander_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-10-03T13:42:45 *** djfiander_ is now known as djfiander 2008-10-03T13:42:55 *** djfiander has left #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-10-03T14:01:09 *** kgs_access_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-03T14:18:29 *** kgs_access has quit IRC 2008-10-03T15:14:23 miker_; sboyette; can you gents join me in the private area? 2008-10-03T15:27:40 agJohn: I'm pointing sboyette there' 2008-10-03T15:28:51 presentation went reasonably well, methinks - vandelay mostly behaved, as did conify 2008-10-03T15:29:36 dbs++ 2008-10-03T15:30:57 good job dan dbs++ 2008-10-03T15:34:57 yay, dbs 2008-10-03T15:35:05 thanks all! 2008-10-03T15:37:10 *** kgs_access__ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-03T15:37:17 *** kgs_access__ is now known as kgs_access 2008-10-03T15:40:51 *** kgs_access_ has quit IRC 2008-10-03T15:48:33 sorry for mostly being incommunicado the last few days, folks 2008-10-03T15:50:58 question about fines: am I correct that a patron's balance is accessed in the DB through money.usr_summary and/or money.usr_circulation_summary?? 2008-10-03T15:53:22 wlayton: no, it's constructed from the raw money.billing and money.payment entries, actually ... due to bad plans that those views provide with millions of rows 2008-10-03T15:53:33 (bad correlation estimates) 2008-10-03T15:55:59 miker_: is there way to break out the fines and somehow link back to indiv. items? 2008-10-03T15:56:35 ...and by "break out the fines" I mean have some sort of itemized view of them 2008-10-03T16:00:35 ... where? 2008-10-03T16:02:26 * dbs starts peeking at Open-ILS/xul/staff_client/server/patron/bill* 2008-10-03T16:02:28 miker_: in the DB 2008-10-03T16:02:47 money.billing.xact -> action.circluation.id 2008-10-03T16:02:54 (non-obvious, yes) 2008-10-03T16:03:02 miker_: Ah...missed that! 2008-10-03T16:03:07 assuming it's a billing from a circ 2008-10-03T16:03:45 action.circulation and money.grocery inherit from money.billable_xact (a postgres OODB feature) 2008-10-03T16:12:16 i've wondered, what's the meaning of "grocery" in that context? 2008-10-03T16:13:18 jeff: generic bill type 2008-10-03T16:13:52 like - charging $5 for a key to the washroom 2008-10-03T16:17:02 *** whikloj_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-03T16:20:37 *** whikloj_ has quit IRC 2008-10-03T16:28:42 *** whikloj has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-03T16:37:15 we have a pilot site that has had fines paid in vegetables 2008-10-03T16:38:04 jamesrf: crazy west coast hippies 2008-10-03T16:42:24 nice 2008-10-03T16:42:40 * berick adds perishable_goods payment type 2008-10-03T16:47:09 *** wlayton has quit IRC 2008-10-03T16:47:48 *** whikloj has quit IRC 2008-10-03T16:50:08 *** jamesrf has quit IRC 2008-10-03T16:57:25 *** whikloj has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-03T17:04:33 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-10-03T17:10:42 *** kgs_access has quit IRC 2008-10-03T17:13:08 *** wlayton has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-10-03T17:13:55 *** whikloj_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-03T17:30:57 *** whikloj__ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-03T17:33:50 *** whikloj has quit IRC 2008-10-03T17:35:40 *** wlayton has quit IRC 2008-10-03T17:37:10 *** whikloj_ has quit IRC 2008-10-03T17:40:45 *** whikloj__ has left #openils-evergreen 2008-10-03T17:41:52 *** error_23 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-03T20:34:54 *** phase_bb2 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-03T20:53:16 *** phase_bb has quit IRC 2008-10-03T21:38:22 *** EGUEST941 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-03T21:40:37 *** EGUEST941 has quit IRC 2008-10-03T21:50:48 *** MarcBower has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-03T21:51:03 evening. 2008-10-03T22:03:17 hello 2008-10-03T22:03:37 aha, life. :) 2008-10-03T22:03:44 undead 2008-10-03T22:03:50 close enough, I suppose 2008-10-03T22:04:06 any chance you could assist me with the latest evergreen vmware from dbs? 2008-10-03T22:04:19 I can try, what's up? 2008-10-03T22:04:52 well, everything seems to go smoothly, but I clearly don't have an actual network connection... can't ping anything from inside the vmware image (though other vmware images work fine) 2008-10-03T22:04:58 and I know squat about ubuntu 2008-10-03T22:05:03 for troubleshooting what's going on 2008-10-03T22:05:21 are you using vmware server or vmware player? 2008-10-03T22:05:30 there are network settings you can configure outside the image itself and in the vmware software 2008-10-03T22:05:36 /sbin/ifconfig shows 127.0.0.1 for ip address 2008-10-03T22:05:42 using player 2008-10-03T22:06:18 I'd look for networking options in vmware player.. should see stuff like NAT, Bridged, Non-Networked, etc. 2008-10-03T22:06:27 it's set to NAT atm 2008-10-03T22:06:46 make sure the virtual ethernet device is enabled too 2008-10-03T22:07:21 that's enabled 2008-10-03T22:08:13 try something like /etc/init.d/networking start as root in ubuntu 2008-10-03T22:08:30 check dmesg and /var/log/syslog to see if you see any network related errors 2008-10-03T22:09:02 sadly, this is all sysadmin type stuff, which I don't really do :) 2008-10-03T22:09:41 huh. the networking start command says there is no such device. That would seem to be a problem. :) 2008-10-03T22:10:32 might be fixed with a simple reboot of the image.. try shutdown -r now 2008-10-03T22:11:10 after shutting down services 2008-10-03T22:11:22 rebooting... 2008-10-03T22:12:48 no joy... hrm. 2008-10-03T22:14:12 MarcBower: you may want to ask on the -dev list ... dbs, who's the vmware maintainer, is unavailable tonight and probably tomorrow 2008-10-03T22:14:50 yah, he's at the pub crawl tonight, I think. ;) I could ask him in the AM, though (here at the Access2008 conference) 2008-10-03T22:15:41 hm. eth1 interface wasn't up. rebooting again... 2008-10-03T22:17:21 ha! 2008-10-03T22:17:40 I'll channel dbs from irc past: 2008-10-03T22:17:40 11:41 < dbs> you'll probably have to rm /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules and reboot 2008-10-03T22:17:44 11:41 < dbs> debian is kind of weird in that it doesn't seem to deal with network changes very cleanly 2008-10-03T22:17:45 (ha to "he's at the pub crawl" ... didn't realize you were hangin' in hamilton) 2008-10-03T22:19:46 OK. Filename is slightly different, but let's see... rebooting... :) 2008-10-03T22:20:30 yah, the conference is going pretty well 2008-10-03T22:20:44 libx now works well with evergreen 2008-10-03T22:21:16 gooooood 2008-10-03T22:23:44 hm. Well, it recreated the file, and it still doesn't work. Looks like it's tied the eth0 to a PCI card slot... 2008-10-03T22:24:07 and there is no eth0, anyway. Ah well, I'll catch him in the morning and see what's up. :) 2008-10-03T22:24:12 thanks for the assist though, guys 2008-10-03T22:24:21 and the seance-like channeling 2008-10-03T22:26:54 *** phasefx has quit IRC 2008-10-03T22:26:54 *** kados has quit IRC 2008-10-03T22:26:59 *** phasefx has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-03T22:26:59 *** kados has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-03T22:31:14 ok... I deleted those files... no difference. I manually up'd the eth1 and ran dhclient on it, and it's got an IP address now... 2008-10-03T22:31:30 and ping lives! 2008-10-03T22:31:34 cool. 2008-10-03T22:31:39 huzzah 2008-10-03T22:31:58 now just start up evergreen and see if it plays nicely with the windows client 2008-10-03T22:35:31 ugh. doesn't support that version of the staff client... 2008-10-03T22:35:46 my fault... didn't rtfm 2008-10-03T22:36:10 probably as simple as adding a symlink 2008-10-03T22:38:34 hrm... can't find the 1.2.3.0 client 2008-10-03T22:39:37 aha, tricked it into giving it to me 2008-10-03T22:39:42 just changed the download link. ;) 2008-10-03T22:39:55 hey, you can use the 1.2.3.1 client 2008-10-03T22:40:06 oh? 2008-10-03T22:40:25 look in /openils/var/web/xul/ at how the directories are linked 2008-10-03T22:40:34 sorry, I assumed you were speaking generally about the symlink thing, not that you were going to tell me how to do it. :) 2008-10-03T22:40:46 create a symlink for rel_1_2_3_1 to whatever directory everything else is linking to 2008-10-03T22:41:52 hm. Remember, ubuntu idjit. ::points at himself:: 2008-10-03T22:42:20 could just do something like ln -s rel_1_2_3_0 rel_1_2_3_1 2008-10-03T22:43:06 ok... lemme give that a go. 2008-10-03T22:43:15 of course, if it's not pointing to real 1.2.3.1 xul files, I wouldn't consider it a complete 1.2.3.1 Evergreen image 2008-10-03T22:43:59 well, it likes the client now 2008-10-03T22:44:27 cool 2008-10-03T22:44:43 I think it's 1.2.3.1 with a 1.2.3.0 symlink because the 1.2.3.1 staff client didn't exist when the image was built 2008-10-03T22:45:26 new client says it's only a week or so old 2008-10-03T22:45:30 so that makes sense 2008-10-03T22:47:04 I'm supposed to build them whenever a stable version gets cut, but I forgot this time around and did it late 2008-10-03T22:47:09 looks good. Thanks very much, guys 2008-10-03T22:47:22 *** lburton has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-03T22:49:49 alrighty... have a good night, guys. I have to go find some dinner now. 2008-10-03T22:49:53 I've got an interesting issue with the Ubuntu VM image, the instant you change the fqdn, ejabberd no longer functions correctly (I updated the openils xml file with the fqdn).. I can't find anything anywhere in the docs about where to update/fix the fqdn/"domain" for ejabberd.. and currently am going around it to try evergreen by just making the VM believe that it has no real fqdn (as it didn't on first-boot) 2008-10-03T22:50:15 *** MarcBower has quit IRC 2008-10-03T22:54:03 hrmm.. that version of EG should be able to work localhost instead of a fqdn, I think 2008-10-03T22:54:14 miker_: is that right? 2008-10-03T22:54:37 or is that just in trunk? 2008-10-03T23:01:45 I don't recall 2008-10-03T23:02:37 the other general question is, this is a small library for a club at a college, and some of our books aren't in the LOC system (which seemingly can be queried with no credentials), Im wondering if you all support amazon lookup (I think you pull pictures at least right) or some other free system (I'm okay with manually inputting some data to get away from our current !library system) 2008-10-03T23:02:52 phasefx: easy way to check the version? 2008-10-03T23:03:08 phasefx: the config files comment that it must have the fqdn 2008-10-03T23:03:48 phasefx: but it would seem the problem was with ejabberd and fqdn.. or at least start_router dies 2008-10-03T23:05:42 we don't have an amazon bib lookup using their api 2008-10-03T23:06:48 apologies, my net is going up and down :-/ 2008-10-03T23:08:18 phasefx: no problem, fair enough 2008-10-03T23:19:14 lburton: have you played with ejabberd.cfg? 2008-10-03T23:30:39 phasefx: not on the VM 2008-10-03T23:31:05 phasefx: I took a look at it, and I tried to set the "hostname" at one point 2008-10-03T23:31:17 but reverted it, as it didn't seem to make a difference 2008-10-03T23:31:32 there's a bunch of references to the default hostname in /var/lib/ejabberd 2008-10-03T23:31:39 if you grep through it