2008-10-28T00:00:29 yeah. cash drawers, etc. 2008-10-28T00:00:56 it just seems... difficult at the moment, and i keep coming back to ways to make it more-better 2008-10-28T00:02:31 heh. past midnight by somebody's clock. my test patron just turned into a pumpkin. 2008-10-28T00:03:17 2 more bosses to beat and I"m done :) 2008-10-28T00:09:54 *** asmodai has quit IRC 2008-10-28T00:10:38 *** asmodai has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-10-28T02:46:23 *** Mark__T has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-28T03:12:59 *** _bott_ has quit IRC 2008-10-28T03:40:02 *** Mark__T has left #openils-evergreen 2008-10-28T03:41:15 *** Mark__T has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-28T03:49:41 *** Mark__T has quit IRC 2008-10-28T03:51:04 *** Mark__T has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-28T04:10:04 *** Alpha-GJohn has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-28T04:26:55 *** agJohn has quit IRC 2008-10-28T05:36:05 *** BenO has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-28T06:33:50 *** asmodai has quit IRC 2008-10-28T07:01:13 *** bag has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-28T07:02:29 *** kados has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-28T07:24:46 *** asmodai has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-10-28T08:01:41 *** bag has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-28T08:26:54 *** kgregory has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-28T08:35:11 *** mrpeters-isl has quit IRC 2008-10-28T08:35:51 *** Mark__T has left #openils-evergreen 2008-10-28T08:40:46 *** Mark__T has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-28T08:44:35 *** kgs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-28T09:00:10 *** Slazer has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-28T09:26:10 *** _bott_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-10-28T09:33:11 *** Alpha-GJohn has quit IRC 2008-10-28T09:47:49 *** eeevil has quit IRC 2008-10-28T09:51:09 *** BenO is now known as BenO|mtg 2008-10-28T10:19:01 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-28T10:22:39 berick: interesting experiments - bzr-svn stuff? 2008-10-28T10:24:10 dbs: yeah, but it's doing something i would not expect. i merge from svn to bzr, then commit a bzr-local change, bzr commits the local change the what it just merged from svn. 2008-10-28T10:24:15 * berick things he's doing something wrong 2008-10-28T10:24:34 er, s/the what/and what/ 2008-10-28T10:25:01 seems like an infinite loop of commits 2008-10-28T10:25:04 what does "bzr info" say? 2008-10-28T10:26:32 berick pasted "dbs bzr" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/69340 2008-10-28T10:30:04 berick: maybe the problem is that you're merging rather than upping? 2008-10-28T10:30:36 e.g. bzr merge says "give me stuff from this other distributed branch (even though other branch = parent branch)" 2008-10-28T10:30:49 hrm, so 'bzr pull' instead? 2008-10-28T10:31:26 whereas bzr update says "update from the parent branch" 2008-10-28T10:32:26 bzr pull might be a good option too; merge is for three-way updates 2008-10-28T10:33:04 this is what confuses me about this style of dev. i have a bzr repo which doubles as a bzr checkout 2008-10-28T10:33:16 if i do 'bzr up' from the root dir, it updates my "checkout" from my bzr "repo" 2008-10-28T10:33:47 i have to do "pull" or "merge" to actually pull down changes to the SVN repo 2008-10-28T10:34:06 but if i do 'pull' it tells me to 'merge' ;) 2008-10-28T10:34:06 ah - I keep one clean bzr checkout, and do pulls from that to local branches 2008-10-28T10:34:26 well, that's what i want to do 2008-10-28T10:34:43 i'm only doing local commits for testing 2008-10-28T10:36:25 dbs: in your clean bzr checkout, does 'bzr up' pull changes from the SVN repo? 2008-10-28T10:38:33 dbs annotated #69340 with "dbs bzr style" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/69340#1 2008-10-28T10:38:54 berick: that's what I've been doing, yeah 2008-10-28T10:39:37 dbs: ah, ok. that is fiarly different 2008-10-28T10:39:43 dbs: thanks for that 2008-10-28T10:40:31 be2008-10-28T10:41:34 *** wlayton has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-28T10:43:20 Not sure if it has been reported, but I'm getting "no space left on device" messages at the top of DokuWiki pages. 2008-10-28T10:45:10 ...and the MailMan mailing list archives only go to last Wednesday. 2008-10-28T10:46:02 wlayton: we're lookin at it. thanks, though 2008-10-28T10:51:34 berick: I figured I wouldn't have been the first to notice but just wanted to be sure. Thanks for looking after it. 2008-10-28T10:58:35 -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =- 2008-10-28T11:01:45 *** wlayton has quit IRC 2008-10-28T11:19:15 *** pinesol has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-28T11:25:03 wlayton: are you noticing any strange behaviours like insane memory consumption? Or can you isolate it to a particular record or set of records? 2008-10-28T11:25:23 wlayton: also, what was the diff between ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop for the prereqs? 2008-10-28T11:28:24 dbs: behaviour seems fine, but I'm re-running it again to see. Certainly no crazy mem usage. 2008-10-28T11:31:27 dbs: as for prereqs, do you mean the Makefile.install? I thought that should work for the Ubuntu desktop and server 2008-10-28T11:31:28 wlayton: okay, just trying to narrow down the problem to have a clue about where to begin looking 2008-10-28T11:31:42 wlayton: yes, but didn't you say something didn't work in the install steps for server? 2008-10-28T11:32:24 dbs: true, there was the ld.so.conf issue... 2008-10-28T11:32:39 so there may be something else 2008-10-28T11:33:06 a description of that would be very useful (at least until I get a chance to create an ubuntu server vm) 2008-10-28T11:33:30 dbs: of the ld issue? 2008-10-28T11:34:02 yes 2008-10-28T11:34:18 dbs: np. 2008-10-28T11:34:56 should I send it to -dev? 2008-10-28T11:50:14 *** dbs_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-28T11:50:26 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-10-28T11:50:32 *** dbs_ is now known as dbs 2008-10-28T11:53:15 dbs: just ran ingest again and didn't see anything incriminating in the output of 'top' 2008-10-28T11:53:39 did it segfault again? 2008-10-28T11:53:50 dbs: yes, it did it again 2008-10-28T11:54:25 can you try splitting the file up to see if it's a matter of volume or of corrupt records? 2008-10-28T11:54:39 ideally we'll get a test case out of this 2008-10-28T11:55:01 as for the ld.so.conf description, -dev or here or wherever :) 2008-10-28T11:56:12 dbs: okay, I'll get back to you with the problem record(s), and send the ld thing to -dev tonight 2008-10-28T11:56:46 groovy 2008-10-28T11:56:49 wlayton++ 2008-10-28T11:57:28 actually, make that _late_ tonight 2008-10-28T11:57:30 snowstorm-- 2008-10-28T12:00:01 snow? what's that? 2008-10-28T12:01:10 miker_: reminder for removing credit card constraint 2008-10-28T12:08:15 phasefx: there are constraints on cc number, cc type, expire month/year and approval code... remove all? 2008-10-28T12:09:08 I think so... the request was for the ability to remove the CC info dialog altogether 2008-10-28T12:09:25 they just want to record the fact that it was a CC payment, and the amount 2008-10-28T12:09:29 k 2008-10-28T12:10:01 though some folks may still want the info dialog.. I'll probably ask on list what folks think before touching the GUI 2008-10-28T12:10:14 k 2008-10-28T12:10:16 right on 2008-10-28T12:10:29 eeevil++ 2008-10-28T12:13:10 done 2008-10-28T12:31:30 * dbs notes http://svn.open-ils.org/trac/ILS/ticket/18 is assigned to denials, wonders if that should be a phasefx ticket 2008-10-28T12:33:23 I don't mind poking on it; will have to put it later in my queue though :-/ 2008-10-28T12:34:17 phasefx: you pointed at some experimental code a while back; still around? 2008-10-28T12:34:26 I would consider the locale picker a blocker for 1.4 2008-10-28T12:35:14 hrmm 2008-10-28T12:35:45 http://open-ils.org/~phasefx/locale.js 2008-10-28T12:36:13 http://open-ils.org/~phasefx/mozilla.js 2008-10-28T12:39:11 phasefx: thanks, I'll see if I can make something happen 2008-10-28T12:39:19 dbs++ 2008-10-28T12:40:07 I can scrounge up the whole xul app too if you want to see that code in action 2008-10-28T12:40:25 phasefx: oh don't increment me, it's a race to see who finishes the rest of their workload first (or burns out) 2008-10-28T12:40:41 * dbs still has a few conify interfaces to i18n-ize 2008-10-28T12:40:48 roger that 2008-10-28T13:11:37 *** DoomsDave has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-28T13:12:31 Is there a reason the windows staff client would tell me the sever doesn't support my version of the staff client when it is the correct version? 2008-10-28T13:14:05 several possible reasons..what versions are you dealing with, how are you entering the server hostname, and if you do http://hostname/xul/ in a web browser, do you see a directory matching the Target Server ID mentioned in the client's About page? 2008-10-28T13:17:40 ive tried it by hostname and ip address with the same results. and if i go to /xul the only thing listed is "[DIR] 20081028.093710/ 28-Oct-2008 09:37 -" and in the about on the client it says the target is: Target Server ID: rel_1_2_3_1 2008-10-28T13:18:18 which matches the server version. does this mean im missing something in that /xul directory? 2008-10-28T13:18:23 yep 2008-10-28T13:19:06 you didn't set the staff client build id to rel_1_2_3_1 when you built/installed Evergreen, so it used a timestamp instead 2008-10-28T13:19:26 you could "ln -sf 20081028.093710 rel_1_2_3_1" 2008-10-28T13:20:24 i swore that i did that. but the symlink would work just as well? 2008-10-28T13:20:53 I'd recommend a little more indirection, as well. ln -s 20081028.093710 current ln -s current rel_1_2_3_1 and ln -s current/server server 2008-10-28T13:21:01 OPAC says "Enter your username or library barcode", but if you've set a username, your library barcode does not work. Is that right? 2008-10-28T13:21:28 no, either should work 2008-10-28T13:21:37 wow, that wiki start page is _clean_! http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php 2008-10-28T13:22:33 kgs on a rampage 2008-10-28T13:23:24 excellent. that seems to have fixed it. i wonder if i can use this as an excuse to irc at work all the time now. 2008-10-28T13:23:34 DoomsDave: it was my excuse :) 2008-10-28T13:24:01 "Show pagesource" shows that there is content there still - dokuwiki is probably highly confused after the out of space problem 2008-10-28T13:24:36 I'll try a simple edit 2008-10-28T13:24:52 backlinks aren't working either 2008-10-28T13:25:06 editing the page fixed it 2008-10-28T13:25:56 that was probably the only broken page.. everything else seems to work and wasn't edited today 2008-10-28T13:26:08 well, backlinks, like you say 2008-10-28T13:26:53 some backlinks for older pages do work, so it must be something after a recent date (week or two maybe) 2008-10-28T13:27:22 contents aren't visible in search results for most pageseither 2008-10-28T13:27:30 just matching page names 2008-10-28T13:36:29 phasefx: for OPAC logins, i thought either would work, but i'm not seeing that. i'll try on a less-modified server. 2008-10-28T13:39:03 jeff: also, though usernames are set to match the library card barcode on registration.. you don't want to remove whatever constraints are in place to keep patrons from choosing a username that resemble barcodes. If that's happening, it could muddle things 2008-10-28T13:42:16 phasefx: ah. interesting. i'll make note. mostly, i was testing what i could set a username to (tried setting to an e-mail address, since people are in the habit of that), and then in testing that found i couldn't sign in the with the patron's barcode after setting a username. 2008-10-28T13:43:08 another thing to keep in mind, I think the staff client uses just one of the two.. I think username 2008-10-28T13:46:06 dbs: re: wiki, we do have backups.. could compare files 2008-10-28T13:48:56 You have backups? Wow. You really don't have library technology backgrounds, do you. 2008-10-28T13:51:02 frayed knot 2008-10-28T13:57:16 o after a cursory search, i am not having much luck finding this info. where would i go to do things like a bulk import of marc records or patrons? 2008-10-28T13:57:52 so, rather 2008-10-28T14:01:14 the wiki's a bit broken at the moment, but there's this for bibs: http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-admin:importing:bibrecords 2008-10-28T14:11:54 update on my import problem: direct_ingest passes when I run it for records 53000 to 54000 2008-10-28T14:12:07 however, it fails just after record at record 53520 if I run direct_ingest over 50000 to 54000 2008-10-28T14:12:34 s/at record// 2008-10-28T14:15:09 (or, at least, the little record indicator that increments by groups of 20 shows "3520") 2008-10-28T14:38:37 *** bag has quit IRC 2008-10-28T14:42:34 wlayton: that's certainly an interesting dataset 2008-10-28T14:50:23 anyone want to take a stab at which area in the Item resource for reports would give me the claims lost from the fine rules? It is not a status but instead a special checked out status that falls under max fine in the customer checked out window. Trying to get a list of items that are in "claims lost" 2008-10-28T14:51:06 but the max fine rule does not have it listed as a choice when in-list?? 2008-10-28T14:59:04 Hello... Hello... Hello... Hmm, sounds mighty empty here! 2008-10-28T15:02:46 rickd: sorry, no depth of knowledge here on reporting 2008-10-28T15:04:02 there's a claims-returned count on actor.usr in fm_IDL.xml, that's all I see 2008-10-28T15:04:11 dbs: Thanks, at least I know you have heard me, I was about to log out and in again 2008-10-28T15:05:32 cool, does it match this CLAIMSRETURNED in case ? 2008-10-28T15:06:26 I am going to try it in Item -> Circulations -> Fine Stop Reason and use CLAIMSRETURNED as the match statement? Thanks for the info 2008-10-28T15:10:30 so i am trying to use this marc2bre.pl script but i think im having problems with the syntax. the wiki doesnt really seem to explain it. i tried: perl marc2bre.pl –startid 1 /path/to/input_file /path/to/output_file 2008-10-28T15:17:07 *** kgregory has quit IRC 2008-10-28T15:19:36 *** EGUEST042 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-28T15:20:05 *** EGUEST042 has quit IRC 2008-10-28T15:26:29 DoomsDave: I would run it like so: "perl marc2bre.pl --startid 1 --db_user=evergreen --db_pw= input_file.xml > output_file.bre" 2008-10-28T15:26:48 DoomsDave: If you open the marc2bre.pl file, you can see the options available 2008-10-28T15:27:13 also note the " > " on the command line between "input_file" and "output_file" 2008-10-28T15:29:48 berick pasted "for dbs, offline-config.pl removed?" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/69349 2008-10-28T15:31:27 -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =- 2008-10-28T15:33:44 berick: offline-config.pl is now generated by eg_db_config.pl 2008-10-28T15:34:37 dbs: hm, ok. i got this error running 'make install' on a clean machine / new checkout 2008-10-28T15:34:54 eg_db_config.pl has to be run first? 2008-10-28T15:35:11 berick: no, must be a lingering autotool rule; I'll poke 2008-10-28T15:35:34 ah, gotcha 2008-10-28T15:35:44 it just shouldn't be trying to touch that file 2008-10-28T15:38:01 guessing.. just remove the offline-config.pl bits from the 'offline-install' target in Open-ILS/src/Makefile.in? 2008-10-28T15:38:34 berick: but Makefile.am generates Makefile.in, no? 2008-10-28T15:38:41 i don't know ;) 2008-10-28T15:39:03 yeah, that's how it should work 2008-10-28T15:39:23 I was peering at Makefile.am and see no reference to offline-config 2008-10-28T15:39:30 * berick was thinking makefile.in create .am for some reason 2008-10-28T15:39:45 *** bag has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-28T15:40:06 tis there http://svn.open-ils.org/trac/ILS/browser/trunk/Open-ILS/src/Makefile.am 2008-10-28T15:40:27 heh. damn, missed a local revision 2008-10-28T15:41:11 checked it in 2008-10-28T15:41:20 dbs++ thanks 2008-10-28T15:41:25 * berick gets a chance to verify his bzr setup 2008-10-28T15:42:28 berick++ # for testing! 2008-10-28T15:43:25 fixed it 2008-10-28T15:55:07 DoomsDave: did you try following the Gutenberg example to start with? 2008-10-28T15:57:31 *** Slazer has quit IRC 2008-10-28T16:03:58 berick: http://www.accessola.com/superconference2009/showSession.php?lsession=1017&usession=1017 2008-10-28T16:04:26 hey, they listed me first. that's not fair 2008-10-28T16:04:52 * berick still loves the drug-induced description ;) 2008-10-28T16:10:05 *** EGUEST436 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-28T16:32:27 phasefx: looks like you were on target with the "keep patrons from choosing a username that resemble barcodes" thing 2008-10-28T16:33:44 my patron "barcode" was P201 2008-10-28T16:38:45 *** wlayton has quit IRC 2008-10-28T16:40:24 *** agJohn has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-28T16:41:47 jeff: I guess that goes in the other direction too then :) 2008-10-28T16:48:53 left the > out. i didnt see it mentioned on the wiki page i was reading. maybe i didnt look closely enough. it basically said use the perl script but then didnt say how to 2008-10-28T16:49:18 DoomsDave: yes, that's what the gutenberg step-by-step example is for 2008-10-28T16:50:06 that sounds like a good thing. do you have a url handy? 2008-10-28T16:50:37 http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-admin:importing:bibrecords again, just read on 2008-10-28T16:52:42 i see now. it was further down than the stuff i was scrutinizing 2008-10-28T17:00:10 *** kgs has quit IRC 2008-10-28T17:05:15 *** sarabee__ has quit IRC 2008-10-28T17:19:24 *** sarabee has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-28T17:38:36 hrmm, I see the "blank" title thing in the billing interface 2008-10-28T17:51:47 and fixed 2008-10-28T17:54:57 *** bag__ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-28T18:09:34 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-10-28T18:11:32 *** bag has quit IRC 2008-10-28T20:58:52 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-28T21:09:56 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-10-28T21:13:42 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-28T21:14:03 *** kgs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-10-28T23:26:13 hmm, eeevil - in marc_code_maps.js you're iterating over the classnames in the stores, and using that both to invoke permacrud methods and as a displayed value in a string 2008-10-28T23:54:49 on a separate note, but still in Conify - can anyone else use the "Add" button to successfully add a new marc code or copy status?