2009-01-30T01:37:33 *** eby_ has quit IRC 2009-01-30T05:09:16 *** BenO has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-01-30T06:12:13 *** kgs has quit IRC 2009-01-30T06:31:27 *** kgs has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-01-30T07:28:09 *** natschil has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-01-30T07:43:29 *** natschil has quit IRC 2009-01-30T08:33:32 *** natschil has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-01-30T08:46:25 *** mitya has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-01-30T08:47:55 Good day, everybody. I have some problems installing OpenILS. Can anybody help me, please? 2009-01-30T08:48:49 sure 2009-01-30T08:48:51 whats the problem 2009-01-30T08:50:08 Thanks. Im am trying to install OpenILS on Debian Etch using this manual: http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=server:1.4.0.1:ubuntu804:install 2009-01-30T08:50:35 ok 2009-01-30T08:50:52 where are you running into trouble 2009-01-30T08:52:15 I did everything which is told there, managed to run OpenSRF, compiled OpenILS, installed it. But when I try to connect to ILS using srfsh (srfsh% login admin open-ils) I get an error. 2009-01-30T08:52:28 ok, what error 2009-01-30T08:52:58 Unable to communicate with service open-ils.auth 2009-01-30T08:53:00 ???: login admin open-ils 2009-01-30T08:53:19 ok, so it cannot connect to the database to confirm your credentials 2009-01-30T08:53:23 And also I see no open-ils.auth process in ps -A output 2009-01-30T08:53:31 have you run settings-tester.pl 2009-01-30T08:54:20 /Evergreen-ILS-1.4.0.1/Open-ILS/src/support-scripts/settings-tester.pl 2009-01-30T08:55:51 Yes. First time I configured everything using localhost as host name. settings-tester.pl told ok. 2009-01-30T08:56:02 No error messages 2009-01-30T08:56:04 have you changed anything since then? 2009-01-30T08:56:16 in your config xml's 2009-01-30T08:56:40 Yes. I changed localhost to my server's FQDN 2009-01-30T08:56:56 yeah, i have had trouble when doing that as well 2009-01-30T08:56:57 in opensrf.xml 2009-01-30T08:57:00 leave it as localhost 2009-01-30T08:57:08 everything should still work 2009-01-30T08:57:16 But it doesn't work either 2009-01-30T08:57:26 I have no auth process 2009-01-30T08:57:48 hmm 2009-01-30T08:57:52 Why localhost and not an FQDN& 2009-01-30T08:57:53 ? 2009-01-30T08:58:00 one of the other guys will have to answer that, as im not sure 2009-01-30T08:58:42 Can you wait a few minutes? I will reconfigure for localhost and try again. 2009-01-30T08:58:56 yes im always here 2009-01-30T08:59:11 Thank. I'll be bac ;-) 2009-01-30T08:59:18 back 2009-01-30T09:05:35 Well, I'm back here again. 2009-01-30T09:06:15 So I changed host to localhost and did this: ./autogen.sh -c /openils/conf/opensrf_core.xml -u 2009-01-30T09:06:35 And it complains about jabber. 2009-01-30T09:06:52 yeah, as i suspected 2009-01-30T09:06:58 its not communicating with the database 2009-01-30T09:06:59 *** kados has quit IRC 2009-01-30T09:07:10 can you post the opensrf_core.xml (be sure to take out any sensitive passwords) 2009-01-30T09:07:18 Everything was all right at first time 2009-01-30T09:07:28 Yes. I'll do it now/ 2009-01-30T09:12:28 *** mitya has quit IRC 2009-01-30T09:12:40 *** mitya has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-01-30T09:12:59 heh, use paste :) 2009-01-30T09:13:02 see topic 2009-01-30T09:13:41 Sorry. Did I do something wrong? 2009-01-30T09:13:57 did you try to paste your log in here? 2009-01-30T09:14:01 or the xml 2009-01-30T09:14:07 XML 2009-01-30T09:14:17 opensrf_core.xml 2009-01-30T09:14:19 yeah, dont do that :) use the Paste site 2009-01-30T09:14:28 http://paste.lisp.org/new/openils-evergreen 2009-01-30T09:14:41 Sorry? Please, explain. 2009-01-30T09:14:45 that way the chan doesnt get flooded, plus your files can be tracked 2009-01-30T09:14:55 sure, go to that link and paste in your xml file contents 2009-01-30T09:15:00 Ok. I'll try. 2009-01-30T09:15:13 enter your IRC nick and the captcha code and it will notify the channel of your paste 2009-01-30T09:15:37 mitya pasted "untitled" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/74573 2009-01-30T09:16:13 Sorry for flooding :-). It is much better now! 2009-01-30T09:16:24 thanks 2009-01-30T09:16:53 mitya did you edit your /etc/hosts file to include public.localhost and private.localhost? 2009-01-30T09:16:54 I don't mind passwords :-). It is a testing server. 2009-01-30T09:17:12 see the OpenSRF README file for details 2009-01-30T09:17:15 Yes. I can paste my hosts file if needed. 2009-01-30T09:17:33 127.0.1.2 public.localhost? 2009-01-30T09:18:26 and did you register router and opensrf on both of those hosts in ejabberdctl 2009-01-30T09:18:45 # ejabberdctl register opensrf private.localhost 2009-01-30T09:19:09 Yes. I did everything. 2009-01-30T09:19:11 and so on for public.localhost and router user on both hosts 2009-01-30T09:19:55 mitya pasted "untitled" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/74575 2009-01-30T09:20:08 It is hosts file 2009-01-30T09:21:25 Where to dig? 2009-01-30T09:21:34 can you paste your /openils/var/log/osrfsys.log 2009-01-30T09:22:30 Yes. Wait a minute, please. 2009-01-30T09:33:35 What is the max size of the paste? 2009-01-30T09:34:43 I can't paste the whole file. I have to split it. 2009-01-30T09:35:22 ok, well only recent entries are relevant 2009-01-30T09:35:33 Ok. I'll try 2009-01-30T09:35:34 say within a minute or two of your last error message about Jabber 2009-01-30T09:36:43 mitya pasted "untitled" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/74576 2009-01-30T09:36:52 Here it is! 2009-01-30T09:37:28 yeah, jabber is definetly not communicating with private.localhost 2009-01-30T09:37:55 make sure the setting for router and match the username/password of the router user you registered on ejabberd 2009-01-30T09:38:12 if you need to, remove the user and add it again to each domain (private.localhost and public.localhost) 2009-01-30T09:38:48 after that (as opensrf) osrf_ctl.sh -l -a stop_all 2009-01-30T09:38:58 then osrf_ctl.sh -l -a start_all 2009-01-30T09:39:12 if you made any changes to the config files and didnt stop and start evergreen, you may also be getting these errors 2009-01-30T09:39:29 It is strange. I configured ejabberd as it is told in the manual. 2009-01-30T09:39:55 right, but you made some changes (the FQDN being added to opensrf.xml) 2009-01-30T09:40:08 then changed it back to localhost 2009-01-30T09:40:09 Is there any ejabberd command to see configured users and domains? I'm not very comfortable with ejabberd 2009-01-30T09:40:50 Ok. I'll try to restart OpenILS 2009-01-30T09:41:06 ejabberdctl connected-users 2009-01-30T09:48:30 I reverted everything back to 'localhost' in opensrf_core.xml. Then I restarted openils. 2009-01-30T09:48:52 Here is 'ejabberdctl connected-users' output. 2009-01-30T09:49:18 mitya pasted "untitled" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/74579 2009-01-30T09:50:15 are you still getting error with srfsh 2009-01-30T09:50:24 I'll see 2009-01-30T09:51:08 Nope. "Unable to communicate with service open-ils.auth" 2009-01-30T09:51:14 hmm 2009-01-30T09:51:18 The same damn thing 2009-01-30T09:51:28 your db is started, right? 2009-01-30T09:51:40 ejabberd is working well, as i understand. Right? 2009-01-30T09:51:44 as root: /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.2 restart 2009-01-30T09:51:57 as far as i can see it is, but im far from an expert 2009-01-30T09:52:08 im probably the most annoying one in here every day asking for help :) 2009-01-30T09:52:39 I can't do that, as I had to compile postgresql-8.2 from source. There is no postgres 8.2 in etch :-). 2009-01-30T09:52:48 Well, postgres is running. 2009-01-30T09:52:53 *** meliss has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2009-01-30T09:52:55 ok 2009-01-30T09:53:01 can you paste up your opensrf.xml 2009-01-30T09:53:08 or look to see if openils.auth is listed in there? 2009-01-30T09:53:30 ps -A | grep auth --> nothing 2009-01-30T09:54:00 right, actually open the xml in text editor and look for an entry for openils.auth 2009-01-30T09:54:46 stanza 2009-01-30T09:54:54 openils-auth 2009-01-30T09:54:59 mitya pasted "untitled" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/74580 2009-01-30T09:55:20 It's my opensrf.xml 2009-01-30T09:55:42 bingo :) 2009-01-30T09:55:57 ok, in /openils/conf 2009-01-30T09:56:08 cp opensrf.xml.example /openils/conf/opensrf.xml 2009-01-30T09:56:23 then edit opensrf.xml (youll notice its much bigger...has many more entries under ) 2009-01-30T09:56:27 one of them, openils.auth 2009-01-30T09:56:37 you have the basic OpenSRF version of opensrf.xml 2009-01-30T09:57:02 Evergreen 1.4.0.1 installs its version of the file, as .xml.example which you must rename, then edit as needed to add your usernames/passwords 2009-01-30T09:57:41 Yeah! That's the point, I think. I'll try and tell you the result :-). 2009-01-30T09:57:53 I missed this step, I think 2009-01-30T09:57:57 great 2009-01-30T09:58:08 Few minutes 2009-01-30T09:58:20 you probably want to redo opensrf_core.xml too 2009-01-30T09:59:29 *** natschil has quit IRC 2009-01-30T10:00:41 *** natschil has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-01-30T10:14:43 Great! That worked! Thank you very much! 2009-01-30T10:15:13 srfsh test login worked. 2009-01-30T10:15:16 :) 2009-01-30T10:15:32 Can you help me with some Debian specific things? 2009-01-30T10:15:42 not familiar with Debian unfortunately 2009-01-30T10:15:45 sorry :( 2009-01-30T10:16:06 Ok. Thank you, your help was great. 2009-01-30T10:16:16 not a problem! 2009-01-30T10:17:35 mitya: what's up? 2009-01-30T10:18:09 I have some Debian specific questions about installing openils. 2009-01-30T10:18:59 ok. ask, and i'll see what i can do :) 2009-01-30T10:19:58 How can I start OpenILS automatically at server startup? Is there any /etc/init.d script for this in the internet? 2009-01-30T10:21:07 *** natschil has quit IRC 2009-01-30T10:23:13 that's not really debian-specific, but it is specific to any linux which uses SysV style init scripts (including Debian) 2009-01-30T10:23:27 init scripts aren't magic; they're just shell scripts 2009-01-30T10:23:35 which ones are called at startup depends on your runlevel 2009-01-30T10:23:58 there's a set of directories, /etc/rcN.d 2009-01-30T10:24:03 where N is your runlevel 2009-01-30T10:24:10 default on modern debian systems is 2 2009-01-30T10:24:28 so if you look in /etc/rc2.d, you'll find symlniks to the scripts in /etc/init.d 2009-01-30T10:24:56 they get fired off in asciibetical order, which is why they'll have prefixes like S20 2009-01-30T10:24:59 for sort order 2009-01-30T10:25:26 so, you can simply create one of your own. /etc/init.d/local is a pretty common sort of name 2009-01-30T10:25:43 and then symlink it as /etc/rc2.d/S99local (so that it happens last) 2009-01-30T10:26:25 as for teh contents, the instructions for starting evergreen are on the wiki. that set of commands should be fine as a starter init script 2009-01-30T10:26:31 Oh. 40 hours without sleeping makes me stupid! :-) I have forgotten about /etc/init.d/local! 2009-01-30T10:26:36 you can embellish it as you find particulars that you need 2009-01-30T10:27:04 Thank you. I'll write it there :-) 2009-01-30T10:27:23 np 2009-01-30T10:29:38 Oh. And the final question — what is the difference between the client program and the web interface? 2009-01-30T10:31:52 I mean from the user's and administrator's point of view. 2009-01-30T10:31:59 in a nutshell, the staff client can do a lot of things that the web interface can't. web is the public interface; staff client is the private interface. 2009-01-30T10:33:57 Do I have to start the client on the machine where the server is working? Or I can start it on the remote computer? 2009-01-30T10:34:05 phasefx_ was talking about a firefox extention for the staff client soon, though :) that was pretty sweet sounding 2009-01-30T10:34:19 mitya, you can connect to it via a remote computer with your server's ip 2009-01-30T10:34:29 1.4.0.1 staff client for windows is up at open-ils.org 2009-01-30T10:35:46 Thanks. For now I need a linux client. My server is behind a NAT. Which ports do I have to forward in order to connect to the remote server? 2009-01-30T10:36:46 hmm, im not sure on that one...i dont recall setting up any exceptions except http, ftp, https, ssh, and dns on my box 2009-01-30T10:37:12 as for a linux client, i think it can be done, im just not sure how 2009-01-30T10:37:20 i use vine to run the windows staff client in ubuntu 8.04 2009-01-30T10:38:31 Why do you use a windows client, not linux? Is it better? 2009-01-30T10:38:54 well, most of our staff computers around the state are windows 2009-01-30T10:38:59 in fact, i would even say all of them are 2009-01-30T10:39:31 if i wanted to connect via staff client from my server box, i just use the windows client in vine because it was the quickest way to get one up (but i rarely use it) 2009-01-30T10:40:15 mitya: it's all xulrunner -- the linux client is just attached to a linux version of the xulrunner runtime 2009-01-30T10:40:36 I see. I'll try linux one at first. 2009-01-30T10:40:52 mitya: once you build them, they're all the same. os x too (which reminds me that i should really get those build modifications in) 2009-01-30T10:44:41 Well, that's great! So I have to solve a problem with nat. 2009-01-30T10:51:40 I have some strange question about different ILS systems. 2009-01-30T10:53:35 shoot, we can try to help :) 2009-01-30T10:56:47 Do you know something about Koha ILS (open ILS made in New Zealand)? A found it awful :-). So I want to know the differences between Evergreen and other ILSes :-). 2009-01-30T10:58:07 hmm, perhaps one of the developers could speak better to that one 2009-01-30T10:58:34 i would say all ILS have their strengths and their weaknesses 2009-01-30T10:58:47 but for us, Evergreen's strengths far outweigh any weakness 2009-01-30T10:59:42 How about Evergreen translation? I'm from Russia, so I'm especially interested in russian translation :-). 2009-01-30T11:00:29 i think that localizations are being worked on now...i bet those guys would like some help with translating to russian 2009-01-30T11:01:01 Can I contribute some help? 2009-01-30T11:06:16 mitya: there is a call for translations that went out recently. let me get you the link! 2009-01-30T11:06:39 mitya: here's a thread from the open-ils-general mailing list: http://markmail.org/thread/ief42lx75ghgir57 2009-01-30T11:07:37 mitya: simplified chinese and czech are in the works, i think. good idea to give a heads-up to the list if you start working on it, so that others are aware. 2009-01-30T11:08:43 I'll try Evergreen first, than show it to out librarians. If they are ok with that, I'll think about contributing stranslation. 2009-01-30T11:08:51 then 2009-01-30T11:13:56 awesome :) 2009-01-30T11:14:53 Well, I'm stuck with authentication using client. At which step in manual did I enter the username and password? 2009-01-30T11:15:12 mitya: default username/password for a new install is admin / open-ils 2009-01-30T11:15:31 mitya: or are you connecting to demo.gapines.org or dev.gapines.org? 2009-01-30T11:16:30 mitya: for demo.gapines.org, there are accounts listed under "Test and Training Accounts" on http://www.open-ils.org/downloads.php 2009-01-30T11:18:04 *** kados has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-01-30T11:18:06 No. I am trying to connect to my brand new server, so admin/open-ils works fine, thank you :-). 2009-01-30T11:22:10 *** phase_bb has quit IRC 2009-01-30T11:24:31 *** eby_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2009-01-30T11:30:07 Thanks to everybody for help! See you, guys. 2009-01-30T11:37:13 *** mitya has left #openils-evergreen 2009-01-30T11:54:51 *** BenO has quit IRC 2009-01-30T12:04:01 *** sarabee_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-01-30T12:04:01 *** sarabee has quit IRC 2009-01-30T12:34:07 *** eby_ has quit IRC 2009-01-30T13:13:39 *** _dkyle_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-01-30T13:14:44 *** eby_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2009-01-30T14:56:57 *** phase_bb has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-01-30T15:00:42 hey guys....still having a helluva time getting 1.4.0.1 to autogen after performing the 1.2.3.1 update on my db to 1.4 2009-01-30T15:00:46 mrpeters-isl pasted "autogen" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/74602 2009-01-30T15:00:48 see paste 2009-01-30T15:00:56 if anyone has any thoughts, let me know! 2009-01-30T15:06:22 mrpeters-isl annotated #74602 with "untitled" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/74602#1 2009-01-30T15:06:49 what config file contains the postgres password? 2009-01-30T15:15:09 *** _dkyle_ has left #openils-evergreen 2009-01-30T15:16:22 err...got it :) needed to edit opensrf.xml to my db username/pass 2009-01-30T15:20:11 that gets me a bit better...still fail on Updating OrgTree HTML 2009-01-30T15:20:22 mrpeters-isl annotated #74602 with "fail on orgtree HTML update" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/74602#2 2009-01-30T15:21:39 mrpeters-isl annotated #74602 with ""severe query error"" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/74602#3 2009-01-30T15:36:24 mrpeters-isl pasted "staff client login error" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/74607 2009-01-30T15:44:34 mrpeters-isl annotated #74607 with "gateway.log" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/74607#1 2009-01-30T15:55:37 *** meliss has quit IRC 2009-01-30T16:57:56 *** sboyette has quit IRC 2009-01-30T16:58:07 *** sboyette has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-01-30T17:06:52 *** sarabee_ has quit IRC 2009-01-30T17:06:52 *** kgs has quit IRC 2009-01-30T17:06:52 *** miker_ has quit IRC 2009-01-30T17:06:57 *** sarabee_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-01-30T17:06:57 *** kgs has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-01-30T17:06:57 *** miker_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-01-30T17:09:51 quick question if anyone is around 2009-01-30T17:11:09 *** jeffdavi1 has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-01-30T17:13:11 *** jeffdavi1 has quit IRC 2009-01-30T17:13:16 nm, got it 2009-01-30T17:14:23 *** jeffdavis has quit IRC 2009-01-30T17:15:23 *** jeffdavis has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-01-30T17:34:28 *** eby_ has quit IRC 2009-01-30T19:15:01 *** granthpal has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-01-30T19:17:10 Hi all! I have an itsy dilemma... After importing a Z39 MARC record which contains a ISBN-10 and adding a holding... the OPAC gets the book jacket based on the ISBN-10 2009-01-30T19:18:05 However I want all my records standardised at ISBN-13... so later when I alter the MARC to add ISBN-13, the OPAC doesn't reflect the changed status.. 2009-01-30T19:18:37 I have tried deleting the ISBN-10 from the record --- doesn't work 2009-01-30T19:19:20 WHERE do I alter the metarecord in the Evergreen DB.. so that it shd reflect these changes 2009-01-30T19:20:39 BTW, I am using Pines 1401 at meslib.com... 2009-01-30T19:22:45 alll images are held locally... for testing use kw=fiction 2009-01-30T19:24:07 *** gmcharlt_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2009-01-30T19:27:45 wherever I had a broken image I copied my isbn-13 image to isbn-10 eg: kw="mutual friend" 2009-01-30T19:29:31 CAN we incorporate something similar to the search results at http://discover.nls.uk/... which shows a holdings keyword map.. for mis-spellings or 'not founds' 2009-01-30T19:37:15 *** gmcharlt__ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2009-01-30T19:40:21 Recco: It would be nice if we could also incorporate a Dewey based z3950 in the opensrf.xml (see pastebin) 2009-01-30T19:40:45 http://embed.mibbit.com/pb/pcchb1 2009-01-30T19:42:41 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2009-01-30T19:42:50 this would be for the regions that use DDC rather than LC 2009-01-30T19:44:04 *** agJohn has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-01-30T19:44:24 Can someone recommend a solid opensource for copy cataloging.. oclc is prohibitively expensive for regions like Asia 2009-01-30T19:45:05 *** eby_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2009-01-30T19:45:21 miker_, sboyette: Please check your email.... 2009-01-30T19:47:19 *** gmcharlt_ has quit IRC 2009-01-30T19:48:25 granthpal: have you seen biblios.net ? 2009-01-30T20:14:18 *** sarabee_ has quit IRC 2009-01-30T20:26:52 *** sarabee has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-01-30T20:29:19 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-01-30T20:30:01 berick++ 2009-01-30T20:45:00 @later tell berick btw, people have already requested your slides :) 2009-01-30T20:45:00 dbs: The operation succeeded. 2009-01-30T21:01:33 *** kgs has quit IRC 2009-01-30T21:13:41 *** kbeswick_ has quit IRC 2009-01-30T22:05:00 kados: going thru biblios.net ... hadnt seen it before... 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