2009-04-06T00:54:48 *** phase_bb has quit IRC 2009-04-06T08:32:57 *** kgs has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-04-06T08:33:19 *** gmcharlt has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2009-04-06T09:19:34 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-04-06T09:32:15 *** phase_bb has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-04-06T09:32:54 *** Guest63136 has quit IRC 2009-04-06T09:48:30 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2009-04-06T09:52:20 *** dchristens has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2009-04-06T10:10:44 *** _dkyle_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-04-06T10:37:48 *** gmcharlt has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2009-04-06T11:14:25 *** brendan_ga has quit IRC 2009-04-06T11:53:48 *** brendan_ga has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2009-04-06T12:19:15 *** agJohn has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-04-06T12:22:19 Is there, at any Evergreen installation, a system for automatically telephoning patrons about holds, overdues, and so on? (Or is this still on the wish-list?) 2009-04-06T12:32:43 agJohn, you'll want to talk to Jeff. They are doing this in Michigan right now, and we will be rolling out our own version of this in Indiana this year 2009-04-06T12:35:54 *** christoph_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-04-06T12:35:57 *** christoph_ is now known as natschil 2009-04-06T12:36:27 jeff, atheos says you folks "are doing this in Michigan right now"--referring to automatically telephoning patrons about holds, overdues and such. Tell me more, please! 2009-04-06T12:36:53 hello, any news about magazine support for evergreen? I remember it was mentioned somewhere. 2009-04-06T12:40:51 natschil: sometime this year, as far as prediction/claims of acquired serials goes 2009-04-06T12:47:23 agJohn: grpl started it, we've tweaked and enhanced for our needs, it's working pretty well! 2009-04-06T12:47:26 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2009-04-06T12:47:48 agJohn: let me get back to _dkyle_ with a long overdue e-mail, and see how close we are to sharing it all. 2009-04-06T12:48:15 agJohn: i can probably share with you what we have currently. privmsg me your email address? 2009-04-06T12:48:19 *** gmcharlt has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2009-04-06T12:49:06 jeff: Not an immediate issue; if it's working that's the main thing right now. I just need to be able to indicate to a library that's thinking about open source that the capability is in use. 2009-04-06T12:49:30 phasefx: ok, so nothing working yet... thanks 2009-04-06T12:49:54 agJohn: works, and works well. grpl is doing it with a digium card tied to their PBX, tadl is using SIP. 2009-04-06T12:50:18 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2009-04-06T12:51:39 What are you using at TADL to actually generate the speech? 2009-04-06T12:51:50 oh, hmm - maybe (probably!) I'm a dumbass, but is the definition of reporter.simple_rec_sync() such that it will trigger failures on UPDATE due to conflicting IDs? 2009-04-06T12:52:21 agJohn: pre-recorded messages strung together. 2009-04-06T12:52:35 Gotcha. So nothing for titles or what not. 2009-04-06T12:52:59 dbs: I think you're claiming membership in a club that wouldn't accept you.... 2009-04-06T12:53:21 eyeballing it looks okay (deletes the offending ID first, then inserts), but I'm seeing duplicate ID errors in the postgresql log 2009-04-06T12:53:32 At least, I know I'd blackball ya! 2009-04-06T12:53:42 agJohn: I'm sure you could use some sort of text->speech software for the titles 2009-04-06T12:53:48 *** kgs_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-04-06T12:54:07 agJohn festival works well 2009-04-06T12:54:19 agJohn: we opted to not do titles since we don't know who is picking up the phone, and we have state privacy laws to consider. 2009-04-06T12:54:28 those around me feel there is a privacy issue though. 2009-04-06T12:54:31 oh, bingo. 2009-04-06T12:54:39 agJohn: heh, thanks :) 2009-04-06T12:55:24 jeff: atheos: makes perfect sense, you might not want your spouse to know that you've placed a hold on "Quickie Divorces 1-2-3" 2009-04-06T12:55:37 No doubt, natschil; it's just a question of making it happen. jeff, that's interesting; never heard of that being a problem before. Interesting. I wonder what the laws are like in that liberal bastion of the midwest, Iowa.... 2009-04-06T12:55:44 exactly. that would make it a little too quick 2009-04-06T12:56:32 Anytime, dbs! 2009-04-06T12:57:56 soon we'll be doing overdue calls (grpl already is), and we plan to be as specific as possible without violating privacy. "2 people at this phone number have a total of 13 library items overdue. our records show that 4 of these items are subject to overdue fines. please return these items to the library as soon as possible. for your convenience, items may be returned to any library within the TADL system. this phone call is regarding library card 2009-04-06T12:58:03 (or something like that) 2009-04-06T12:58:24 dbs: that is the most often cited example. :) 2009-04-06T13:00:24 btw, if anyone wants to put some of their SVA code into an ILS-Contrib repo, I'll happily create it for them 2009-04-06T13:01:34 i think that's the hope. i owe _dkyle_ an email. long overdue. 2009-04-06T13:03:10 that would be awesome 2009-04-06T13:11:08 *** kgs has quit IRC 2009-04-06T13:13:18 *** mib_wh31jp has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-04-06T13:14:00 Hello all, who would like to talk about the spine label configuration in Evergreen? 2009-04-06T13:14:35 Question: is there a place where you can edit what defaults you would like to have show in all spine labels for each library? 2009-04-06T13:15:22 I see the pocket label portion but the spine label pulls from a config that you cannot alter from inside the staff client by default 2009-04-06T13:18:43 rickd: we would like to give cataloguers a bit more control over the spine label template, too, just to add weight to your request 2009-04-06T13:19:58 cool, I remember talking to Jason about spine label printers and he said when we have them ready he would show us the way. I agree it would be nice to have more config over the spine label instead of just the pocket label. 2009-04-06T13:20:07 We have them ready now 2009-04-06T13:20:39 *** mib_wh31jp has quit IRC 2009-04-06T13:20:44 Jason is in here with 4 nicknames don't know which to use : ) 2009-04-06T13:26:04 phasefx phasefx_ phasefx2 phase_bb: alert'em all! We'll probably change the hardcoded font server-side for now 2009-04-06T13:26:31 * phasefx looks furtively at the monitor while munching on food 2009-04-06T13:26:33 wow, 45 seconds to ingest a single record; that seems excessive 2009-04-06T13:28:10 label printing.. a lot that needs to be done there, but no directed development from anyone currently 2009-04-06T13:28:49 the values that do persist are using xul's persist mechanism, which involves a file called localstore.rdf somewhere in the user profile directory 2009-04-06T13:28:54 * dbs wonders if the ingest-on-save call is timing out when issued by the client, causing a rollback of the ingest - but works when directly invoked by srfsh because the timeout is longer... 2009-04-06T13:28:59 it's imperfect and we need to move away from it 2009-04-06T13:29:13 phasefx: heh, I hears ya 2009-04-06T13:30:00 we need to remove the distinction between spine and pocket labels.. just have n-independent-labels 2009-04-06T13:30:13 need a template-template system :) ala item attribute editor 2009-04-06T13:30:29 need for that to be tied to user settings, org settings, and/or local filesystem 2009-04-06T13:30:36 need native sheet printing 2009-04-06T13:31:13 phasefx is needy 2009-04-06T13:31:49 need a way to bypass or augment the mozilla print system so we can send low-level print information (command codes, etc.) 2009-04-06T13:32:00 phasefx: helper app! 2009-04-06T13:32:01 * jeff grins 2009-04-06T13:32:02 * dbs is also going to try, a little bit, to make the marc editor wrap super-long fields & make font settings apply to it as well 2009-04-06T13:32:14 need an easy way to feed data to helper apps :) 2009-04-06T13:32:23 custom mime types. 2009-04-06T13:32:34 need a stylesheet manager 2009-04-06T13:32:51 (well, i guess that's just how you start 'em and pass the data, not how the data is formatteD) 2009-04-06T13:33:10 set up an "at" command on windows that runs every 5 seconds looking for a magically-named text file that then generates an RTF file and shuffles it off to the printer 2009-04-06T13:33:26 * jeff is wrapping his head around the biblio:: and metabib:: objects 2009-04-06T13:33:46 need to make full marc data available to the templating system, and not just mods 2009-04-06T13:34:17 how's all of that sounding so far for label printing? :) any funding? 2009-04-06T13:34:58 * crickets * 2009-04-06T13:35:40 phasefx: Depends on how much the cost? 2009-04-06T13:35:49 *** jamesrf has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-04-06T13:36:16 for all of that, I really don't know. Need to spec it out. More likely that some folks would want specific bits over others 2009-04-06T13:36:49 it'd be a great project for a new developer to cut their teeth on :) 2009-04-06T13:37:12 need alternate algorithm/plugin support for call number wrapping 2009-04-06T13:37:34 to handle different types of call numbers and wrapping schemes 2009-04-06T13:37:53 phasefx: In the mean time can we edit the localstore.rdf (?) and add some of the macros for %author% and such so that, on the local machine, we can have a default for spine labels? 2009-04-06T13:38:12 phasefx: Or some other way? 2009-04-06T13:38:49 phasefx: It might be something that Indiana could help fund but as a work around right now, how would we go about it? 2009-04-06T13:38:56 rickd: yeah, localstore.rdf is one way.. the main pain there is that it ties the values to the underlying URL, and the URL tends to change when you upgrade Evergreen 2009-04-06T13:39:14 phasefx: doh 2009-04-06T13:39:28 phasefx: only the client update though? 2009-04-06T13:39:47 rickd: best thing for "deploying" label settings is targeted development. Rip out the persist mechanism with one that uses org settings and user settings 2009-04-06T13:40:23 rickd: the client determines the initial URL that gets looked at, but it's subsequent URL's in the remote files that determine what the URL is going to be by the time you get to the label interface 2009-04-06T13:41:16 phasefx: right now we have our hands full with telephony but it might be something to look at later, unfortunately we need the workaround now? 2009-04-06T13:41:22 so, in practice, any upgrade is going to blow away xul persisted values. Things like the Auto-Print checkbox in circ interfaces, and label settings in the label printer. It's very unfortunate, and was unforeseen 2009-04-06T13:41:52 phasefx: so it is a reedit every time we upgrade? 2009-04-06T13:42:04 oh, heh, that's good to know - saved columns and the like as well? 2009-04-06T13:42:26 rel_1_4_0_4 forever, baby! 2009-04-06T13:42:29 saved columns use a different mechanism.. their settings get saved to a specific file based on the list id 2009-04-06T13:42:47 ah, that's good :) 2009-04-06T13:42:52 but I'd like for all such settings to be support org settings, user settings, and local settings 2009-04-06T13:43:59 rickd: I would examine and compare two different localstore.rdf's and see how they're different.. you may be able to pass around one definitive file.. or they may be unique and that won't work 2009-04-06T13:45:25 one easy but horrible option is to rip out the persist attribute in spine_label.xul, and set some default value attributes 2009-04-06T13:46:34 what file would I need to edit to set what the "required" fields for adding patrons are? Here we don't really use Adresses, authentication methods, etc and therefore it would be easier if we didn't need to enter nonexistent zip codes (I generally use 00000), states and authentication methods 2009-04-06T13:47:19 with authentication method I mean drivers license/ SSN for adding patrons (There is the "other" field, but that needs to be selected every time...) 2009-04-06T13:48:34 *** brendan_ga_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2009-04-06T13:49:27 phasefx: BRB, have to take care of a customer issue 2009-04-06T13:52:58 *** brendan_ga has quit IRC 2009-04-06T14:14:41 might even be cool to have a server-side "workstation setting" table 2009-04-06T14:15:03 phasefx: that would definitely be cool. 2009-04-06T14:15:14 determining precedence would be interesting though 2009-04-06T14:15:19 always is 2009-04-06T14:15:28 pick one and stick with it. :) 2009-04-06T14:15:54 hard-coded xul by default, then org settings, then workstation settings, then user settings, then filesystem settings? 2009-04-06T14:16:27 s/hard-coded/localized/ :) 2009-04-06T14:16:35 i'm not saying pick it NOW... :) 2009-04-06T14:16:48 a user setting for determining the precedence ;) 2009-04-06T14:17:12 i'm with jeff, make it simple but make it work 2009-04-06T14:17:29 it would be nice if we could specify that precedence setting in more than one place, too... maybe at the workstation, and in a server-side "workstation setting precedence" table, and... 2009-04-06T14:17:57 precedence-precedence settings 2009-04-06T14:18:02 precedence-precedence-precedence settings 2009-04-06T14:18:05 but then we'd have to determine the precedence of the workstation setting precedence settings... 2009-04-06T14:18:09 :D 2009-04-06T14:18:12 okay, so i'm glad somebody got the joke :) 2009-04-06T14:19:27 need for receipt templates to have all these options too 2009-04-06T14:22:23 *** chrissharp123 has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2009-04-06T14:54:49 * dchristens crosses his fingers... with any luck at all, going live with our pilot project tomorrow.... 2009-04-06T14:56:24 dchristens: huzzah! 2009-04-06T14:57:17 2009-04-06T14:58:28 one library, four branches. 100,000 copies; 18,000 patrons :-) 2009-04-06T15:03:30 dchristens: so what library system are you with? 2009-04-06T15:05:23 dchristens++ 2009-04-06T15:14:48 <_dkyle_> dbs: GRPL would like an ILS-Contrib repo, thanks. 2009-04-06T15:16:56 <_dkyle_> aside from hold, overdue, and courtesy notices, we have a telephone renewal system in the works 2009-04-06T15:17:10 *** natschil has quit IRC 2009-04-06T15:25:22 *** dbs has quit IRC 2009-04-06T15:29:54 _dkyle_: sent you that email from march. :) 2009-04-06T15:30:29 @later tell dbs see 15:14 in scrollback :) 2009-04-06T15:30:29 phasefx: The operation succeeded. 2009-04-06T15:33:31 *** sylvar has quit IRC 2009-04-06T15:35:47 <_dkyle_> jeff: Thanks, that should force me to finish some code cleanup and get some stuff posted finally 2009-04-06T15:36:36 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-04-06T15:37:08 *** sylvar has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-04-06T15:37:15 _dkyle_: great! let me know if i can help. some of our workflows are different, so some of the changes i made may not make sense for you guys. 2009-04-06T15:41:25 atheos pasted "problem with JUST ONE BILL" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/78127 2009-04-06T15:42:27 if anyone cares to look at this, I'm having trouble retrieving information for one (of many) bill. I'm getting an error on just this one item, and staff client debug tells me that I'm calling this function the proper way. 2009-04-06T15:43:44 atheos: is this: http://svn.open-ils.org/trac/ILS/ticket/45 2009-04-06T15:45:04 _dkyle_: can-do on GRPL ILS-Contrib access - need at least one email address + desired username 2009-04-06T15:46:33 dbs no, but I'm going to read that if you think it's related. 2009-04-06T15:46:40 atheos: what's the billing_location for the grocery? 2009-04-06T15:46:45 *** sarabee has quit IRC 2009-04-06T15:46:49 difference on this particular bill is that it's a Miscellaneous charge 2009-04-06T15:47:13 phasefx, not sure what you mean by billing_location. 2009-04-06T15:47:33 atheos: apologies, knee-jerk paste 2009-04-06T15:47:56 oh, I like all responses dbs, knee-kerk or no. :) 2009-04-06T15:49:15 money.grocery has a field called billing_location which should contain an org unit id. open-ils.circ.money.grocery.retrieve retrieves a grocery, but is throwing a perm failure on VIEW_TRANSACTION. This would be based on the value in the billing_location for that grocery 2009-04-06T15:50:25 if that location doesn't fall into a work location scoped by the VIEW_TRANSACTION depth then you'll get that perm failure 2009-04-06T15:50:33 phasefx, I'm not looking at this from the SQL level, and I'm getting the results I need from the staff client. That leads me to believe I have a prob on my end, and not a problem with this record. 2009-04-06T15:50:45 atheos: same user credentials? 2009-04-06T15:50:48 yes 2009-04-06T15:51:00 let me confirm that 2009-04-06T15:52:14 yes, using the same user (mine) 2009-04-06T15:53:08 *** sarabee has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-04-06T15:59:37 _dkyle_: arguably, rather than a single GRPL directory, it should be one directory per project; and a generic GRPL directory would be used for your local customizations etc. 2009-04-06T16:00:01 But, whatever makes it easiest for you to share is good with me :) 2009-04-06T16:00:58 atheos: hrmm.. are you passing a workstation when creating a session? 2009-04-06T16:01:41 if the underlying permission checker isn't given an explicit context org to check against, I think it defaults to workstation org 2009-04-06T16:01:45 yes, this is a single bill out of about 10. the others are coming back fine, and I "recreated" this bill in my own account. it's coming back fine too. It's just this single bill, from all users and bills I've tested that's giving me trouble 2009-04-06T16:03:18 atheos: you can watch your server logs? grep osrfsys.log for perm=VIEW_TRANSACTION 2009-04-06T16:03:26 k 2009-04-06T16:06:02 osrfsys.16.log:2009-04-06 16:05:37 208.119.0.102 open-ils.circ: [INFO:4214:CStoreEditor.pm:86:12390482512455127] editor[0|16256] checking perms user=16256, org=4, perm=VIEW_TRANSACTION 2009-04-06T16:06:14 dat's me 2009-04-06T16:06:21 is that any different from an instance where it works? 2009-04-06T16:06:24 <_dkyle_> dbs: "per project" meaning Michigan Evergreen? 2009-04-06T16:06:42 no different phasefx 2009-04-06T16:06:52 _dkyle_: well, I meant more like "Voice notification" project 2009-04-06T16:07:04 atheos: I'm confuddled :) 2009-04-06T16:07:12 hha 2009-04-06T16:07:21 ok, we'll I'll mess with it more tomorrow 2009-04-06T16:07:40 possible for someone to mess this bill up at the time it was made? 2009-04-06T16:08:14 I don't see how. Anything weird with it if peered at directly in the db? 2009-04-06T16:08:39 <_dkyle_> dbs: ok sure, whatever fits the going convention and lets us share the love 2009-04-06T16:08:47 phasefx are you asking to look at it? if so, you've got my blessing 2009-04-06T16:09:03 atheos: is that on your production instance? 2009-04-06T16:09:07 yes 2009-04-06T16:09:21 until today, I thought my credit card billing worked :) 2009-04-06T16:09:53 I have the problem dialed down (was only looking at grocery, not circulation). got that fixed, but then stumbled upon this single instance 2009-04-06T16:10:46 _dkyle_: well, we'll start with /grpl/ and if it grows, then cool :) 2009-04-06T16:10:54 _dkyle_: you have mail 2009-04-06T16:11:25 atheos: yeah, I don't see anything obvious there 2009-04-06T16:11:43 ok, thanks for looking 2009-04-06T16:14:36 atheos: you're just getting back id's from .have_balance, right? that first response is from open-ils.circ.money.billable_xact_summary.retrieve ? 2009-04-06T16:15:22 getting id's back from open-ils.actor.user.transactions.history.have_balance. I wasn't touching billable_xact_summary.retrieve 2009-04-06T16:15:46 where did that first Array come from? 2009-04-06T16:16:04 *** dchristens has quit IRC 2009-04-06T16:16:04 method=open-ils.actor.user.transactions.history.have_balance&service=open-ils.actor¶m= 2009-04-06T16:16:14 then results to method=open-ils.circ.money.grocery.retrieve&service=open-ils.circ¶m= 2009-04-06T16:16:17 *** dchristens has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2009-04-06T16:16:31 missing a step ? 2009-04-06T16:17:21 this thing looks like a mbts, but I don't know where you're getting it: Array ( [0] => [1] => [2] => [3] => 1 [4] => 1778260 [5] => Unclaimed hold fee: "Sight" JJ [6] => 2009-03-25T10:32:52-0400 [7] => Miscellaneous charges [8] => [9] => [10] => [11] => 1 [12] => 0 [13] => 16256 [14] => [15] => 2009-03-25T10:32:52-0400 [16] => grocery 2009-04-06T16:17:57 I can get a view on the actual json response. This is after I use php to decode json 2009-04-06T16:18:45 may want to try a run through with srfsh 2009-04-06T16:18:54 ah, good call. 2009-04-06T16:20:14 berick: just fyi, I started playing with Locale::Maketext::Lexicon, specifically the TT2 text extractor plugin, last night 2009-04-06T16:20:32 the good news: it found the four strings that I had marked up in login.tt2 for translation 2009-04-06T16:21:18 the bad news: it didn't generate any output other than "found four strings!"; apparently it doesn't ship out of the box ready to go, but needs some glue 2009-04-06T16:21:28 phasefx, here's the unmolested response: {"payload":[{"desc":"Permission Denied","ilsevent":5000,"ilsperm":"VIEW_TRANSACTION","ilspermloc":4,"pid":27575,"servertime":"Mon Apr 6 16:21:01 2009","stacktrace":"/openils/lib/perl5/OpenILS/Utils/CStoreEditor.pm:366 /openils/lib/perl5/OpenILS/Utils/CStoreEditor.pm:357 /openils/lib/perl5/OpenILS/Utils/CStoreEditor.pm:357","textcode":"PERM_FAILURE"}],"status":200} 2009-04-06T16:21:30 but... there is hope, at least 2009-04-06T16:22:55 dbs: great, that's a start 2009-04-06T16:23:56 berick: you're telling me! My background stress level is much lower. My foreground stress level continues to crank past 11. :) 2009-04-06T16:24:35 just wait until I start enabling i18n and breaking everything, oh, it'll be just like old XMLENT times 2009-04-06T16:30:19 dbs: if it would help, i would be glad to dance around a miniature model of stonehenge for your amusement 2009-04-06T16:30:35 berick++ 2009-04-06T16:34:17 *** jamesrf has quit IRC 2009-04-06T16:34:34 Ah, yes, where a man is a man and the children dance to the pipes of Pan. 2009-04-06T16:34:40 I have heard of this place. 2009-04-06T16:35:25 it's near where the Rogues of the Evergreen hang out 2009-04-06T16:45:07 * phasefx is out 2009-04-06T16:46:20 *** brendan_ga_ has quit IRC 2009-04-06T16:54:52 i have successfully created a new supercat feed. 2009-04-06T16:54:53 yay! 2009-04-06T16:55:11 (had the api call modifications in place the other week, hadn't tackled WWW:SuperCat yet) 2009-04-06T16:55:32 and no, i didn't create a new WWW:SuperCat::Feed, just a new "feed" of data. 2009-04-06T17:00:02 jeff++ 2009-04-06T17:00:37 going to try to make time to polish a few parts of it and send it to the list for feedback. 2009-04-06T17:09:09 anyone here running 1.4.0.4? I can't seem to place a hold... title- or item-level. 2009-04-06T17:10:52 *** brendan_ga has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2009-04-06T17:11:11 * dbs gives up trying to teach the marc editor that wrapping text really would be okay 2009-04-06T17:11:15 at least for today 2009-04-06T17:11:42 dchristens: permission problems? there are lots of permissions that aren't set out of the box 2009-04-06T17:13:23 dbs: I'll check (worked in 1.4.0.2) - but wouldn't it give me some kind of message? Right now, clicking the 'place hold' button doesn't actually seem to do anything :-) 2009-04-06T17:13:54 ah, that sounds like a different beast then. gotta run right now though, sorry 2009-04-06T17:14:01 *** dbs has quit IRC 2009-04-06T17:14:23 Heh - I might have scared him off :-) 2009-04-06T17:14:47 * dchristens calls out, "soooorrrrryyyyyyyy!" 2009-04-06T17:20:26 dchristens: which "place hold" button are you clicking, and is it in the staff client or the patron opac for the title holds? 2009-04-06T17:22:35 jeff: staff client. when you search for a title and click the "place a hold" link 2009-04-06T17:23:03 ...takes you to the bit where you scan the patron barcode, and a screen to fiddle with hold details. 2009-04-06T17:23:11 dchristens: works for me as the admin user in 1.4.0.4. have you run autogen since changing org unit types and adding/removing org units? 2009-04-06T17:23:17 the bottom of that screen has a button to actually place the hold :-) 2009-04-06T17:23:31 and it's clicking that button that appears to do nothing? 2009-04-06T17:23:37 correct 2009-04-06T17:23:51 i think i've encountered that before, but i don't remember if it was an autogen thing or not. 2009-04-06T17:23:53 (yes to the autogen, too) 2009-04-06T17:24:23 *** jamesrf has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-04-06T17:24:59 Huh - something else weird... going into admin -> local system admin gives me a 404. I've blown something up somewhere :-) 2009-04-06T17:25:11 ouch. 2009-04-06T17:25:38 might want to start with your apache error log. 2009-04-06T17:25:52 i also must now depart. keep the channel posted with what you find. :) 2009-04-06T17:26:07 Yepper.... looks like jabber's not jabbering :-) 2009-04-06T17:26:12 good luck! 2009-04-06T17:26:13 jeff++ 2009-04-06T17:28:46 Yep, that was it. shut down apache, stopped opensrf, and gave ejabberd a swift kick. started services, started apache... Ta da! Holds are happy :-) 2009-04-06T17:34:51 *** dchristens has left #OpenILS-Evergreen 2009-04-06T19:12:07 *** grahamf has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-04-06T19:28:19 Speaking of ejabberd... My OpenSRF install is stalled out trying to configure ejabberd (it's apparently not happy despite the fact that the processes show up). Log file says: 2009-04-06T19:28:20 =INFO REPORT==== 2009-04-06 18:22:33 === 2009-04-06T19:28:22 application: ejabberd 2009-04-06T19:28:23 exited: {bad_return,{{ejabberd_app,start,[normal,[]]}, 2009-04-06T19:28:25 {'EXIT',{{badmatch,{aborted,{no_exists,config}}}, 2009-04-06T19:28:27 [{ejabberd_config,set_opts,1}, 2009-04-06T19:28:28 {ejabberd_app,start,2}, 2009-04-06T19:28:30 {application_master,start_it_old,4}]}}}} 2009-04-06T19:28:32 type: temporary 2009-04-06T19:28:34 Now, I had a typo in the ejabberd.cfg file (from the mods required from the default file), but I fixed that--so now I'm hoping someone has a brilliant suggestion.... 2009-04-06T19:29:17 The typo gave a different error, btw... 2009-04-06T19:32:57 *** brendan_ga_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2009-04-06T19:33:19 *** brendan_ga has quit IRC 2009-04-06T19:42:27 *** djfiander has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2009-04-06T19:50:23 Uninstall and reinstall of ejabberd did the trick. Got no clue what the root problem was.... 2009-04-06T20:01:40 "Item is published monthly on the second Wednesday of the month except in April when it's published on the second Thursday, and May, when it's published on the first Wednesday." 2009-04-06T20:01:45 this is hard. 2009-04-06T20:13:25 It's a game between the publishers and the ils vendors 2009-04-06T20:14:13 *** grahamf` has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-04-06T20:14:38 I thought M.A.D. went out of fashion in the 60s 2009-04-06T20:31:00 *** grahamf has quit IRC 2009-04-06T21:24:06 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-04-06T21:25:26 *** kgs_ has quit IRC 2009-04-06T21:32:11 these are college students! shouldn't they be playing their basketball games at a reasonable hour? 2009-04-06T21:43:25 they're college students on basketball scholarships. who says they have classes? 2009-04-06T21:45:05 *** kbeswick_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-04-06T21:46:39 miker_: you there? 2009-04-06T21:53:53 *** kbeswick_ has quit IRC 2009-04-06T21:58:16 *** jamesrf has quit IRC 2009-04-06T22:07:35 *** jamesrf has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-04-06T22:10:55 *** djfiander has quit IRC 2009-04-06T22:12:22 *** grahamf` has left #openils-evergreen 2009-04-06T23:19:34 *** denials has quit IRC 2009-04-06T23:24:24 *** denials has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2009-04-06T23:55:59 * jeff gets used to posting to the list more 2009-04-06T23:56:16 i haven't been in an email frame of mind lately.