2009-05-02T02:00:31 *** kgs has quit IRC 2009-05-02T03:28:54 *** asmodai has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2009-05-02T03:36:00 *** natschil has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-02T04:15:27 *** asmodai has quit IRC 2009-05-02T05:29:45 *** natschil has quit IRC 2009-05-02T05:30:34 *** natschil has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-02T05:41:02 *** natschil_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-02T05:58:08 *** natschil has quit IRC 2009-05-02T06:46:10 *** natschil_ has quit IRC 2009-05-02T07:14:08 *** natschil_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-02T07:23:36 *** brendan_ga has quit IRC 2009-05-02T07:30:43 *** asmodai has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2009-05-02T08:20:42 *** natschil_ has quit IRC 2009-05-02T08:27:13 *** natschil_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-02T08:27:30 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-02T08:40:02 * dbs blinks at a 5_cent_per_minute recurring fine rule 2009-05-02T08:40:57 as well as separate 0_cent_per_hour and 0_cent_per_day rules 2009-05-02T08:43:43 2_days_20_renew, I like that one 2009-05-02T08:56:57 16_hours_20_renew 2009-05-02T09:00:04 heh 2009-05-02T09:06:09 *** natschil_ has quit IRC 2009-05-02T09:06:18 *** natschil_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-02T09:15:14 *** natschil_ has quit IRC 2009-05-02T09:30:58 i love names, an item with a circ modifier of "foo nocirc" gets a 14_days_5_renew duration rule 2009-05-02T09:38:00 ? 2009-05-02T09:38:35 heh, awesome, as expected the 0_days_0_renew rule really should be an entry in the permit_patron file 2009-05-02T09:39:21 asmodai: I'm doing data entry for the new system, have been schlepped a huge amount of rules that were (despite my pleas) taken from a legacy system 2009-05-02T09:39:34 \o/ 2009-05-02T09:39:35 fun! 2009-05-02T09:39:44 rather than carefully refactored. 2009-05-02T09:39:52 yeah, \o/ 2009-05-02T09:46:39 Always fun 2009-05-02T09:46:46 * asmodai goes to prove Python has a bug. 2009-05-02T09:49:29 that's more fun :) 2009-05-02T09:56:18 Heh. 2009-05-02T11:10:12 so, reading checkout.js, which event is best suited for "patron with home_ou x is not allowed to borrow an item from aou y"? 2009-05-02T11:11:52 CIRC_EXCEEDS_COPY_RANGE looks like a close contender... patron from home_ou x is not allowed to borrow an item with circ_lib y 2009-05-02T12:05:37 hmm, isOrgDescendent is resisting all attempts to make it work 2009-05-02T12:07:49 isOrgDescendent('LAURSYS', patron.home_ou.id) should work, but always returns false 2009-05-02T12:24:40 You're having fun. 2009-05-02T12:29:57 nope 2009-05-02T12:56:43 *** jakeshomelibary has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-02T12:57:26 is koha better than evergreen? 2009-05-02T12:59:22 hellow does anyone know if koha is better than evergreen 2009-05-02T13:00:37 ok nobody wants to tell me that fine 2009-05-02T13:00:52 Well 2009-05-02T13:00:54 i heard that it is better but i was going to ask the experts 2009-05-02T13:00:54 it's SATURDAY :P 2009-05-02T13:01:03 Most people here work for unis and the likes. 2009-05-02T13:01:09 And are awake during weekdays ^^ 2009-05-02T13:01:23 *** jakeshomelibary has quit IRC 2009-05-02T13:01:31 * asmodai rolls his eyes 2009-05-02T14:34:01 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2009-05-02T15:00:22 /me crawls out of bed, "oh who am I kidding, I have a laptop in the bed :) 2009-05-02T15:06:13 :P 2009-05-02T15:10:01 dbs: hrmm, PINES is using isOrgDescendent, I wonder if it broke in 1.4 2009-05-02T15:10:17 phasefx: or I could be doing something stupid 2009-05-02T15:10:45 tried logging variable values, like for patron.home_ou.id? 2009-05-02T15:10:53 yeah, those are all fine 2009-05-02T15:11:05 here's where I'm calling it: http://svn.open-ils.org/trac/ILS-Contrib/browser/conifer/trunk/circ/circ_permit_copy.js 2009-05-02T15:12:05 I just implemented isAMember() as a workaround, it's good enough for my purposes 2009-05-02T15:18:09 thanks for poking though! 2009-05-02T15:24:56 dbs: about to check in some refactoring of areas of unapi, including adding unapi support for copies and call numbers 2009-05-02T15:25:29 miker_: cool! 2009-05-02T15:26:01 dbs: I think this will give you magical ##URI## via bibtemplate support 2009-05-02T15:26:23 Okay, now that's really cool. 2009-05-02T15:26:28 magic++ 2009-05-02T15:26:51 I'll test anon 2009-05-02T15:27:02 miker_magic++ 2009-05-02T15:29:26 hrm... not yet 2009-05-02T15:32:46 will require a change to fm_IDL.xml 2009-05-02T15:37:35 ah, I've been shying away from pushing the revamped fieldmapper into production 2009-05-02T15:37:57 might give it a week or two to shake the bugs out (not that there could possibly be any bugs!) 2009-05-02T15:39:53 revamped? 2009-05-02T15:40:16 oh, the new code 2009-05-02T15:40:22 not the xml 2009-05-02T15:45:04 aye 2009-05-02T16:04:00 *** installserver has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-02T16:04:57 i'm willing to pay $100 dollars to anyone who will be willing to connect to my computer and install the evergreen server on my linux ubuntu computer. I know away for u to get in really easy, it is just a website. 2009-05-02T16:05:31 Again I'm paying $100 dollars to anyone who installig it for me 2009-05-02T16:06:51 does anyone want to help me 2009-05-02T16:07:55 i either am going with evergreen or koha 2009-05-02T16:08:03 idk on how to install both 2009-05-02T16:10:25 installserver: if you can't install Evergreen or Koha yourself, then you probably will have problems customizing and maintaining either one; sorry :( 2009-05-02T16:10:57 than what library software am i soppost to use 2009-05-02T16:12:11 i cant find anyone that i like 2009-05-02T16:12:15 but theses 2009-05-02T16:13:55 *** installserver has quit IRC 2009-05-02T16:32:15 ? 2009-05-02T16:32:21 ah 2009-05-02T16:32:25 same user as before 2009-05-02T16:32:58 *** khernden has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-02T16:33:07 khernden! 2009-05-02T16:33:16 I wonder if he thinks it's for your own personal bookshelf given his previous nick 'jakeshomelibary' 2009-05-02T16:34:04 asmodai: yeah, there are some people who do run evergreen for their own home library 2009-05-02T16:34:18 hey dbs :) 2009-05-02T16:34:26 dbs: :| 2009-05-02T16:37:33 khernden: is there a compact subset of circ rules, fines, etc that you want implemented for opening day? or are you going to be comfortable with the defaults? 2009-05-02T16:38:22 how much do the defaults diverge from what LU does? we're pretty close to you guys 2009-05-02T16:39:24 I think the defaults are set to match LU's loan periods and fines, for the simple cases at least 2009-05-02T16:39:32 Haven't touched reserves yet though :/ 2009-05-02T16:40:02 I think we'll be ok 2009-05-02T16:40:25 I don't think there will be any deal-breakers 2009-05-02T16:40:55 I don't think we've set any of the locations as non-circulating, either, so keep your eyes on your ref collection 2009-05-02T16:42:02 ok will do 2009-05-02T16:43:20 * dbs noticed that it was possible to check a laurentian item out to a windsor student this morning and set up rules to make items non-circable if patron lib != item lib (for most cases) 2009-05-02T16:45:11 is there any way to batch change locations like ref so that they don't circ? 2009-05-02T16:45:56 yup 2009-05-02T16:46:28 whew 2009-05-02T16:46:44 there's a "circulate" boolean column on asset.copy_location :) 2009-05-02T16:46:52 groovy 2009-05-02T16:47:17 *** khernden has quit IRC 2009-05-02T16:49:29 yeah, we're all pretty laid back here in conifer 2009-05-02T17:20:52 * dbs notes there are 39 REF locations in Conifer 2009-05-02T17:21:17 DESM-REF, DESM-REF3... awesome 2009-05-02T17:47:05 You can also use the reference flag on copies too and test for that 2009-05-02T17:48:31 yep, circ.ref right? 2009-05-02T17:49:42 I haven't quite got the zen of the circ scripts yet, the available objects seem kinda-sorta like my friends from fm_IDL.xml but sometimes with funhouse distortions :) 2009-05-02T17:49:50 copy.ref 2009-05-02T17:50:36 I think there is a ref event too, if u want to perm that differently 2009-05-02T17:52:16 duh, yeah, copy.ref 2009-05-02T17:52:19 cross-eyed 2009-05-02T19:16:44 *** levani_el has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-02T19:27:42 *** dbs has quit IRC 2009-05-02T19:28:28 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-02T19:54:20 *** levani_el has quit IRC 2009-05-02T20:04:08 sheesh, it's a lot easier to enhance an interface with dynamic data when your data isn't null 2009-05-02T20:04:12 dbs-- 2009-05-02T20:05:35 :) 2009-05-02T20:05:53 dbs: I'm about to make things much easier (for the URI stuff, anyway) 2009-05-02T20:06:08 promises, promises :) 2009-05-02T20:06:20 you can't make things easier for a person with fluff for brains 2009-05-02T20:08:22 mmm... brains. 2009-05-02T20:08:25 er, i mean. 2009-05-02T20:08:27 disregard that. 2009-05-02T20:09:07 dbs++ # for ``yeah, we're all pretty laid back here in conifer'' 2009-05-02T20:09:09 jeff++ 2009-05-02T20:16:16 (i like zombies) 2009-05-02T20:26:02 * dbs has some serials holdings displaying in the title details page... yay 2009-05-02T20:26:12 but the layout is messed up... boo 2009-05-02T20:26:28 ah well, good enough for now 2009-05-02T20:26:39 back in a few hours, for anyone keeping score