2009-05-08T00:21:31 *** phase_bb has quit IRC 2009-05-08T00:44:22 *** EGUEST653 has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-08T00:45:30 *** liby07 has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-08T00:46:13 *** liby07 has quit IRC 2009-05-08T01:13:02 *** sylvar_ has quit IRC 2009-05-08T01:22:52 *** error_23 has quit IRC 2009-05-08T01:28:59 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-08T01:30:13 @later tell kgs So... is there going to be a correction to that K-12 press release? 2009-05-08T01:30:13 dbs: The operation succeeded. 2009-05-08T01:34:09 *** phasefx has quit IRC 2009-05-08T01:34:26 *** phasefx has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-08T01:34:37 *** sylvar_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-08T01:47:04 *** sylvar has quit IRC 2009-05-08T02:04:06 *** phase_bb has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-08T02:57:21 *** EGUEST265 has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-08T03:28:40 *** EGUEST559 has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-08T03:31:38 *** EGUEST559 has quit IRC 2009-05-08T05:24:50 *** BenO has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-08T06:33:57 *** Hayripotter has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-08T06:34:50 *** Hayripotter has quit IRC 2009-05-08T07:39:53 *** kgs has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-08T07:55:59 *** sylvar_ is now known as sylvar 2009-05-08T08:23:30 *** sylvar_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-08T08:40:41 *** sylvar has quit IRC 2009-05-08T08:41:37 *** drdata___ has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-08T08:47:24 *** sylvar_ is now known as sylvar 2009-05-08T09:25:12 *** wlayton has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-08T09:55:32 *** asmodai_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2009-05-08T09:55:39 *** asmodai has quit IRC 2009-05-08T09:55:39 *** mrpeters-isl has quit IRC 2009-05-08T09:55:44 *** asmodai_ is now known as asmodai 2009-05-08T10:11:24 *** mrpeters-isl has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-08T10:45:44 kgs: is a correction to http://www.esilibrary.com/esi/newsitem.php?id=97 going to be posted? 2009-05-08T10:46:07 (or perhaps my browser cache is getting in the way) 2009-05-08T10:46:43 dbs thank you for asking, yes it will be 2009-05-08T10:46:50 excellent 2009-05-08T11:21:23 *** dbs has quit IRC 2009-05-08T11:36:18 does evergreen trunk require openils trunk at this point? 2009-05-08T11:36:42 i'm thinking yes due to fieldmapper changes... 2009-05-08T11:37:24 jeff: er, opensrf? 2009-05-08T11:37:28 er 2009-05-08T11:37:50 yeah, meant to say opensrf, and looking at changes i don't think the fieldmapper stuff affected it? 2009-05-08T11:38:27 jeff: it actually did in one small way.. the pre-built JS will be slightly brokent 2009-05-08T11:38:32 but enough to cause problems 2009-05-08T11:39:12 hrm 2009-05-08T11:39:23 s/pre-built JS/static JS created by autogen/ 2009-05-08T11:40:09 *** meliss has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2009-05-08T11:44:14 berick: so if i'm trying to run bleeding edge evergreen which opensrf should i use: 1.0.6, or trunk -- or is neither going to work at this point in time? 2009-05-08T11:44:34 opensrf trunk will work with EG trunk 2009-05-08T11:44:42 doing an install right now, as a matter of fact 2009-05-08T11:44:58 k. thanks! 2009-05-08T11:52:22 So today my problems with evergreen I was going on about yesterday magically do not exist anymore. 2009-05-08T11:53:26 Roger2k10: fun :) did you see my chatter to you earlier? 2009-05-08T11:54:13 *** natschil has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-08T11:57:10 I must have missed it. If it was after 4:30pm pacific time I was out of here 2009-05-08T11:58:30 most pertinent one was this: 2009-05-08T11:58:30 23:26 < phasefx> Roger2k10: also, I updated the wiki page concerning import_holdings.pl. I no 2009-05-08T11:58:34 tice there's an import demo in ILS-Contrib that uses a parse_holdings.pl instead. http://svn. 2009-05-08T11:58:37 open-ils.org/trac/ILS-Contrib/browser/import_demo/trunk 2009-05-08T12:03:34 I'll give that a shot. I think any way I slice it I'm going to have to have a programmer here fix my marc xml file and populate the 999 fields with the correct info because right now there is no 999 field. He said he would do it next week some time. 2009-05-08T12:04:26 yeah, and I'm pretty sure that demo is geared toward something specific, like maybe Unicorn holdings info in 999 tags 2009-05-08T12:04:35 so would need adaptation in any case 2009-05-08T12:05:15 might also be worth browsing Conifer's migration scripts in ILS-Contrib/ 2009-05-08T12:05:31 My boss keeps bugging me to call people at other libraries to see if they have any secrets because he is impatient and doesn't want to wait 2009-05-08T12:07:19 trivial/simple migrations can happen, but they're rare in my experience. No matter how much you automate it, because there aren't really any good standards for all the data, and the ones that do exist don't get adhered to. People abuse their ILS systems to get around limitations, and that makes it all the more difficult 2009-05-08T12:10:16 I have another question you might know the answer to off the top of your head. If I have a bunch of patrons and want to change all of their barcode numbers, would I change them in one spot in the database or would that break something? 2009-05-08T12:11:07 At some point in the nearish future we are going to switch to a new student records system which means every student will get a new student id number, and that is the number we use for their barcodes 2009-05-08T12:11:16 one spot. Patron barcodes get stored as "library cards" and have their own normalized table in the database 2009-05-08T12:12:08 however, if you're also migrating barcodes into the usrname field (or the "OPAC login name", which is not uncommon), that can cause an extra wrinkle 2009-05-08T12:12:55 I could migrate their active directory usernames for that probably 2009-05-08T12:13:06 btw, I do migrations for an Evergreen migration/support/development shop, so take my migration talk either as expert advice or with a grain of salt :) 2009-05-08T12:13:24 hehe 2009-05-08T12:13:49 This probably seems pretty trivial but is there any way to make this more readable? http://www.mendocino.edu/library/misc/marc_codes.gif 2009-05-08T12:14:41 that looks pretty sad. yeah, something can likely be done, but that's dojo, which I'm not familiar with yet 2009-05-08T12:15:16 which version of EG are you using, which dojo libraries did you install with, and which xulrunner are you using (stock download of staff client?) 2009-05-08T12:15:48 you can also get to that interface outside of the staff client and from Firefox, but I don't know the URL right off hand 2009-05-08T12:16:08 stock download of staff client. rel_1_4_0_4 2009-05-08T12:16:27 *** natschil has quit IRC 2009-05-08T12:16:33 and a 1.4 server? 2009-05-08T12:16:39 Aye 2009-05-08T12:16:48 *** natschil has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-08T12:17:34 I couldn't find anything from that whole marc codes section of the server setup in cgi-bin which is where the other stuff from server setup seemed to be 2009-05-08T12:17:58 try http://servername/conify/en-US/global/admin.html 2009-05-08T12:19:35 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-08T12:19:40 Lucky me. It looks the same in firefox. Maybe I'll try opera and then ie and see what happens. 2009-05-08T12:20:27 Opera for the win 2009-05-08T12:20:40 may have Mozilla-isms, but I'll cross my fingers :) 2009-05-08T12:22:21 So this is probably my inexperience with apache or something talking, but I noticed someone can go to http://172.16.11.50/cgi-bin/config.cgi without any kind of authentication. Am I banking on the fact that probably no one is going to bother typing that in or is there a way to secure that? 2009-05-08T12:22:38 172.16.11.50 being my temporary local ip for the test server here 2009-05-08T12:23:41 you should secure it, and the apache config is the way to go there. I'd restrict it to connections from localhost, and/or add Basic Auth to that directory 2009-05-08T12:24:58 * phasefx <- lunch 2009-05-08T12:31:53 *** BenO has quit IRC 2009-05-08T14:10:56 dbs: My Z39.50 is slightly happier with accents now, but not fully. I changed "outputcharset" in xml2marc-yaz.cfg from "marc-8" to "utf-8" 2009-05-08T14:11:59 yeah, that matches what we have (well, "utf8" not "utf-8" but it's probably the same) 2009-05-08T14:12:05 Accents display when retrieving records with yaz-client, but they are displayed on their own, after the characters they should be "modifying" 2009-05-08T14:12:27 wlayton: ah, that's probably because your records were migrated with NFD rather than NFC 2009-05-08T14:12:47 (or, that's my wild guess) 2009-05-08T14:13:31 no, it's a problem with the unicode display crap in the setup of windows you're using 2009-05-08T14:13:48 wlayton: I've been investigating that for a couple weeks 2009-05-08T14:14:33 dbs: it's true, though that the /difference/ is nfc vs nfd ... the /problem/ is that windows is a steaming pile 2009-05-08T14:14:50 :) 2009-05-08T14:15:03 I'll drink to that 2009-05-08T14:20:40 windows being what it is, though, its why we went with NFC (and the display even looks more natural in linux firefox, for that matter) 2009-05-08T14:20:49 miker_: This is a bit different. I'm on Linux and the staff client displays the accents fine (unlike George on Windows...), but using yaz-client on the Linux cmd line, I see the "separated" accents, which I didn't expect. 2009-05-08T14:21:53 wlayton: one other possible difference - we're running yaz 3.0.45 (server and client), while the default would be 3.0.34 on debian, I believe 2009-05-08T14:21:55 wlayton: ahh ... well, that is something different. maybe simple2zoom really can't properly return marc8? 2009-05-08T14:22:51 dbs: I'm on 3.0.38. I'll d/l .45 and give it a whirl... 2009-05-08T14:23:27 miker_: btw, gfawcett had an eeevil suggestion for the off-by-one simple2zoom bug; double up the final hit in SRU :) 2009-05-08T14:24:05 *** error_23 has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-08T14:24:12 which is horrible, but as lots of ILL systems like to search on ISBN, might end up being necessary until the real problem is solved 2009-05-08T14:25:42 ha! 2009-05-08T14:25:57 double it up, but report the correct number of results? 2009-05-08T14:26:35 miker_: heh, I had assumed add one to the results, too, but that would help narrow down where the real problem lies 2009-05-08T14:28:07 * dbs heads for food 2009-05-08T15:00:10 *** eby has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2009-05-08T15:03:11 *** drdata___ has left #openils-evergreen 2009-05-08T15:12:12 *** jamesrf has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-08T15:22:17 *** kgs has quit IRC 2009-05-08T15:23:17 *** kgs has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-08T15:50:09 *** natschil has quit IRC 2009-05-08T15:52:40 *** jamesrf has quit IRC 2009-05-08T15:56:21 *** jamesrf has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-08T15:58:19 *** meliss has quit IRC 2009-05-08T15:58:51 *** jamesrf has quit IRC 2009-05-08T16:01:09 *** jamesrf has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-08T16:28:41 *** _dkyle1 has left #openils-evergreen 2009-05-08T16:56:19 dbs did you catch the corrected release? 2009-05-08T16:56:33 kgs: yep 2009-05-08T16:56:47 that is all! 2009-05-08T16:56:50 :) 2009-05-08T16:56:56 hve a good weekend 2009-05-08T16:59:53 *** wlayton has quit IRC 2009-05-08T17:20:43 *** eby has quit IRC 2009-05-08T17:27:04 *** dbs has quit IRC 2009-05-08T17:28:43 *** error_23 has quit IRC 2009-05-08T17:37:33 *** berick has quit IRC 2009-05-08T17:38:30 *** miker_ has quit IRC 2009-05-08T17:41:01 *** berick has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-08T18:34:02 *** miker has joined #openils-evergreen 2009-05-08T18:34:28 *** miker is now known as miker_ 2009-05-08T18:39:07 *** eby has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2009-05-08T19:38:03 *** jamesrf has quit IRC 2009-05-08T20:18:31 *** eby has quit IRC 2009-05-08T23:07:33 *** kgs has quit IRC