14:09:27 <bbqben> #startmeeting Evergreen Oversight Board Meeting, 19.06.14 14:09:27 <pinesol_green> Meeting started Thu Jun 19 14:09:27 2014 US/Eastern. The chair is bbqben. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:09:27 <pinesol_green> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:09:27 <pinesol_green> The meeting name has been set to 'evergreen_oversight_board_meeting__19_06_14' 14:09:43 <bbqben> #topic introductions 14:09:51 <bbqben> EOB members, please introduce yourself with #info 14:10:05 <bbqben> #info bbqben = Ben Hyman, BC Libraries Co-op 14:10:15 <montgoc1> #info montgoc1 = Chauncey Montgomery, Consortium of Ohio Libraries 14:10:18 <kmlussier> #info kmlussier = Kathy Lussier, MassLNC 14:10:21 <bshum> #info bshum = Ben Shum, Bibliomation 14:10:59 <jeff> @decide parts or many-bibs 14:10:59 <bshum> I think there are netsplits going on 14:10:59 <pinesol_green> jeff: Zoia knows how to make fusilli. 14:11:00 <bshum> This may not end well 14:11:24 <kmlussier> Like I said, it's going to be one of *those* meetings. 14:11:37 <bbqben> checking re: quorum - standby 14:11:55 <yboston> #info Yamil Suarez EOB - aka yboston 14:12:00 <kmlussier> jeff: Parts, definitely 14:12:23 <bbqben> ok, we have 5/9 EOB members, so let's proceed 14:12:34 <bbqben> #topic Minutes/Actions from last meeting 14:12:42 <bbqben> #info Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2014/evergreen.2014-05-15-14.03.html 14:13:01 <bbqben> #topic ACTION updates 14:13:25 <bbqben> #topic Emergency Project Fund Investigation 14:13:54 <bbqben> So, was just saying to kmlussier that I'm hoping to make some headway on this before our next meeting. Will report then 14:14:11 <bbqben> #topic Conference photography policy 14:14:45 <bbqben> kmlussier posted a revision just before the conference ... 14:15:07 <bbqben> er, conference call, that is 14:15:58 <bbqben> switching from def leppard to ween 14:16:26 <kmlussier> So the only revision is to be very clear about whose photographs get the Creative Commons Licensing. 14:16:39 <kmlussier> Just those taken by event staff. 14:17:13 <bbqben> kmlussier: thanks. any questions anybody? 14:17:14 <kmlussier> Tony had posed the idea of requiring creative commons licensing for anyone who takes photos, but I personally think that's a little too much. 14:17:35 <montgoc1> I agree. 14:17:38 <kmlussier> And I don't think there are many conference policies out there that do so. 14:17:59 <kmlussier> Generally, I think it's ready for a vote. 14:18:17 <bshum> Reads well to me. 14:19:05 <bbqben> kmlussier: appreciate the legwork on this one. will queue up a vote... 14:20:22 <bbqben> #startvote Are you in favour of the Evergreen conference photography policy circulated 19.06.14? Yes, No, Abstain 14:20:22 <pinesol_green> Begin voting on: Are you in favour of the Evergreen conference photography policy circulated 19.06.14? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain. 14:20:22 <pinesol_green> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 14:20:37 <bshum> #vote Yes 14:20:40 <montgoc1> #vote Yes 14:20:43 <kmlussier> #vote Yes 14:20:44 <sborger> #vote Yes 14:20:53 <yboston2> #vote yes 14:20:56 <bbqben> #vote Yes 14:21:16 <bbqben> #endvote 14:21:16 <pinesol_green> Voted on "Are you in favour of the Evergreen conference photography policy circulated 19.06.14?" Results are 14:21:16 <pinesol_green> Yes (6): kmlussier, bbqben, montgoc1, bshum, yboston2, sborger 14:22:25 <bbqben> #action distribute photography policy widely (sborger) 14:22:43 <bbqben> #topic Community IRC themes 14:22:43 <sborger> Okay, got it. 14:22:49 <bbqben> sborger: thanks 14:23:07 <bbqben> kmlussier: thought on themes since our last mtg? 14:23:28 <kmlussier> Sorry. I dropped the ball on this one. For next time? 14:23:51 <bbqben> kmlussier: sounds fine to me, thanks 14:24:07 <bbqben> #topic DRAFT Terms of Reference for Standing Conference Planning Committee 14:24:42 <bbqben> kmlussier or graced - any updates or shall we bf for next? 14:25:08 <kmlussier> Well, I sought volunteers, but forgot about the Terms of Reference. 14:25:26 <kmlussier> For volunteers, we have graced and me. :) 14:25:42 <bbqben> kmlussier ++ 14:25:45 <bbqben> graced ++ 14:25:54 <kmlussier> We each can cover former conference planners and EOB members. And graced also is a vendor. 14:26:10 <kmlussier> What I really would like to see is an at-large community member or two. 14:26:20 <kmlussier> So maybe I'll put out another all? 14:26:32 <kmlussier> That is, call. 14:26:59 <bbqben> kmlussier: sounds good to me - will watch for that 14:27:40 <bbqben> #action kmlussier to issue a 2nd call for interest re: standing conference committee participation 14:28:09 <bbqben> #topic Status of discussion re: EG community use of OCLC records 14:28:24 <bbqben> yboston: any updates on this front? 14:28:36 <yboston2> I don't have major updates so far. 14:29:09 <bbqben> yboston: ok, please keep us posted 14:29:12 <yboston2> hold on, technical dificulties 14:29:20 <yboston2> I stated a EOB list thread about this topic right before the May meeting. Rogan and Dan Wells were very helpful with their feedback , Mike Rylander chimed in too 14:29:44 <yboston2> at some point I would like to consider getting the SFC involved, but I might not be there yet 14:29:54 <yboston2> Questions about sharing OCLC records comes up often for me and a few others, even before working on RDA issues. For example, when dealing with troubleshooting authorities issues, there are times I would like to share a few bib and authority record from OCLC to illustrate certain issues I am having. Therefore I would love to get straight answer, and would like to get the SFC involved so we can get legal guidance from them. Though o 14:30:20 <bshum> yboston2: Cut off at "Though o..." 14:30:21 <yboston2> reach out to OCLC directly. 14:30:38 <yboston2> Though of course, the SFC might need to reach out to OCLC directly. 14:31:07 <bbqben> #info the thread on the list http://list.evergreen-ils.org/pipermail/eg-oversight-board/2014-May/000769.html 14:31:35 <yboston2> Some in the community, like Dan Wells, think that we can use the OCLC records, and he is willing ot host them. 14:31:57 <yboston2> Andrea also provided a new link for trying to get RDA records from LC 14:32:13 <yboston2> I need to try it out, since the previous LC site/link I used gave me mixed results 14:32:29 <bbqben> yboston2: thanks for the refresher 14:32:32 <kmlussier> That's my question. If we can share records from LC, is there a reason why we need to use the OCLC ones? 14:33:00 <yboston2> I will think about this issue more, but I could use some suggestions about how and when we should involve the SFC 14:33:07 <yboston2> assuming the majority wants them involved 14:33:14 <bbqben> I guess I see 2 issues: 1. Having SFC weigh in on the OCLC terms of use; and 2. determining if/how much community wide interest their is 14:33:17 <yboston2> that is about it 14:33:20 <yboston2> for now 14:35:09 <bbqben> would asking SFC to examine the terms jeopardize anything at this point? If not, can anyone think of a reason not to start there? 14:35:45 <bbqben> I'm thinking that without knowing what the potential opportuinty is, it may be difficult to assess interest 14:36:35 <yboston2> I don't think it would jeopardize anything, though I want to make sure I have collected all the documentation they might night to start looking into this to save them time 14:36:35 <bbqben> going once... 14:36:36 <kmlussier> bbqben: Seems like a good place to start. 14:37:06 <yboston2> sorry having technical issues with the IRC channel 14:37:27 <bbqben> yboston2: no worries. standby for an action, and thanks 14:37:42 <kmlussier> yboston: Yeah, it's a tricky connection today. 14:38:06 <bbqben> #action: yboston2 to compile documentation in preparation for inquiry to SFC re: shared OCLC records as community resource 14:38:22 <bbqben> #topic Financial Report 14:38:28 <yboston2> thanks Ben 14:38:33 <bbqben> #info #info http://list.evergreen-ils.org/pipermail/eg-oversight-board/2014-June/000804.html 14:39:00 <bbqben> gmcharlt: thanks again 14:39:08 <gmcharlt> sure 14:39:17 <bbqben> any questions / observations about the financial report? 14:40:06 <kmlussier> No questions, but I do want to let the EOB know that bbqben and I requested that the SFC allow gmcharlt to continue to access the ledger even though he is no longer a member of the Board. 14:40:30 <kmlussier> The SFC asked that I inform the EOB since access is usually only allowed for Board members. 14:40:51 <bbqben> kmlussier: right, thanks 14:40:59 <montgoc1> Is the unearned income conference reg. fees that are not paid yet? 14:41:39 <sborger> Galen was going to reschedule the training for the ledger, right? So he can pass on that duty to someone on the board? 14:41:39 <kmlussier> I wouldn't think so. That seems awfully high, and most of the registration fees were paid immediately by credit card. 14:41:54 <gmcharlt> sborger: yes; I'll try scheduling smoething after ALA 14:42:34 <sborger> Sounds good! 14:43:11 <bbqben> kmlussier: mind checking with Bradley - the unearned income entry may simply need an adjustment assuming the conference books are now closed 14:43:12 <yboston2> gmcharlt++ 14:43:15 <gmcharlt> montgoc1: no; as I understand it, it's an accounting term that refers to income received before it is earned by delivering the service 14:43:30 <gmcharlt> i.e., any prepayment of anything would count as unearned income 14:43:53 <bbqben> kmlussier: what gmcharlt said ;) 14:44:03 <montgoc1> OK. That makes sense. 14:44:04 <kmlussier> Makes sense to me! :) 14:44:16 <bbqben> ok, moving on then 14:44:17 <kmlussier> There's a reason I didn't pursue a career in accounting. 14:44:37 <bbqben> #topic Evergreen 2.7 Release Manager's Report 14:44:56 <bshum> Okay 14:45:04 <bshum> So things are in motion on that front. 14:45:14 <bshum> I asked developers to start targeting new features for review. 14:45:30 <bshum> I'm revising our 2.7 roadmap later this next week with some of the key things I see changing. 14:45:37 <bshum> And then I'll send out some updates to the general list on that. 14:46:14 <bshum> What I'll be trying to do is to follow the dates I've marked on the Evergreen calendar for different milestones for development. But we'll see how that progresses in real time. 14:47:07 <bshum> #info 2.7 development has begun, roadmap plans to be updated and released by end of June. 14:47:53 <bbqben> Thanks Ben! Any questions anyone 14:48:50 <bbqben> ok, moving on 14:48:55 <bbqben> #topic Evergreen Conference Report(s) 14:49:13 <kmlussier> Sorry - unfortunate timing, but I need to run. 14:49:20 <bbqben> kmlussier advises that she reached out to the 2014 crew, and we hope to see standing reports starting next meeting 14:49:30 <bbqben> kmlussier: have fun at the airport! 14:49:36 <kmlussier> Thanks. Bye all! 14:49:55 <bbqben> #topic Report on EOB survey re: IRC and Teleconferences 14:51:14 <bbqben> So, I summarized the responses on the mailing list. Seems that this day/time is good for all but 1, sometimes. And there's interest in perhaps a quarterly _recorded_ teleconference 14:51:34 <bshum> bbqben: For Q4 results, is the total number of entries less because not everyone selected a choice? 4 vs. 7 otherwise. 14:51:50 <bbqben> bshum: correct 14:52:10 <bshum> Cool, just curiously checking. 14:52:33 <bbqben> there was some question logic, so if you answered "I hate teleconferences" or its moral equivalent, you got redirected to the end of the survey 14:52:46 <bshum> Aha 14:53:47 <bbqben> I'm thinking we could aim for a fall teleconference - sort of a mid year check in on our progress; perhaps we could invite the 2014 conference folks to attend etc. 14:54:17 <yboston2> sounds good 14:54:28 <sborger> I like that idea. We could also get a report on the hackaway. 14:54:28 <gdunbar> bbqben: That sounds good to me, too 14:54:31 <bbqben> If that doesn't sound horrible, I'm happy to host & record it on our service. I'll propose some dates at our next meeting 14:54:56 <bbqben> we can download recordings as audio files for the purposes of minutes 14:55:44 <bbqben> #action bbqben to propose fall teleconference meeting dates & arrange to host / record call 14:56:11 <bbqben> Anyone have any new business? 14:56:53 <bbqben> Going once.... 14:57:09 <bbqben> Going twice .... 14:57:24 <bbqben> bshum: thanks for all your assistance wrangling the bot 14:57:59 <bbqben> Its been a pleasure, as always 14:58:04 <bbqben> #endmeeting