14:00:24 #startmeeting 2014-07-02 - DIG Monthly Meeting Evergreen Documentation Interest Group (DIG) Monthly Meeting. 14:00:25 Meeting started Wed Jul 2 14:00:24 2014 US/Eastern. The chair is yboston. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:25 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:00:25 The meeting name has been set to '2014_07_02___dig_monthly_meeting_evergreen_documentation_interest_group__dig__monthly_meeting_' 14:00:33 The agenda can be found here http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:dig_meeting_20140702-agenda 14:00:44 #topic Introductions 14:00:45 Please feel free to start introducing yourselves... 14:00:53 #info yboston is Yamil Suarez @ Berklee college of Music - DIG meeting facilitator 14:01:08 #info remingtron is Remington Steed, Hekman Library (Calvin College) 14:01:11 #info kmlussier is Kathy Lussier, MassLNC 14:01:15 #info bshum is Ben Shum, Bibliomation 14:01:15 #info kbutler is Kate Butler, Rodgers Memorial Library (NH) 14:01:18 #info /me is Robert Soulliere, Mohawk College 14:01:26 #info rsoulliere is Robert Soulliere, Mohawk College 14:02:51 (I will wait a few more seconds before starting) 14:03:31 OK, lets start 14:03:54 #topic any DIG memeber reports? 14:03:59 *member 14:04:16 I can go 14:04:26 go ahead 14:04:28 #topic Conversion Coordinator Report 14:04:38 #info I updated the 2.5 upgrade instructions a few minutes ago. Updatesd in the repo so should show up tomorrow in the official docs. I hope to get the 2.6 upgrade instructions done in the next day or two. 14:04:52 Beginning next week, I will be away until September so I will miss the August meeting. 14:05:04 That is all. : -) 14:05:13 rsoulliere++ 14:05:36 Kathy, did you have anything to report? 14:05:54 Sorry, I wandered off for a minute. Sure. 14:06:05 #topic Release Coordinator Report 14:06:32 #info Nothing new to report, but I do intend to update the release notes with links to the documentation for new features. 14:06:45 I basically was waiting to see if new docs would be added before moving forward. 14:06:48 That's all I have. 14:06:58 kmlussier++ 14:07:25 At this point I suggest we move to "old business" 14:07:49 Is there any old business? 14:08:08 as stated in the agenda, we had the entry to finsih work on 2.6 new features 14:08:39 ah yes, that counts as old business 14:09:15 #topic Old Business 14:09:56 #topic New DIG Workflow: Document all new 2.6 features by July 1, and all new future version features by the time the version is released. 14:09:57 #info To review: All members choose 1-3 new features to document each month, emailing the list with questions and calls for help. 14:09:58 #info Progress Reports: How did this month go? Suggestions for improving the workflow? Tough features that need special attention? 14:09:59 #info Assignments: Everyone choose another 1-3 remaining new features for the next month 14:10:30 (Remington was right, this was actually listed as "priority business") 14:10:49 any comments on our overall progress, or indiviudal progress? 14:10:53 #link http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:2.6_needs 14:11:00 well, now that we cleared out "old business", we don't need "priority business" 14:11:36 I finished my marc_export docs and pushed them in, so I'm free to help others finish up 14:11:55 I still need to do one more thing for my task on the removal of open-ils.ingest service. gmcharlt steered me in the right direction for updating a doc that included it as an opensrf service. 14:12:18 I'm also free to help somebody, but not until I return from vacation on the 14th. 14:12:25 I finished 2 of the 3 places where I needed to put the info about the new settings for staff initials. I sent it to the mailing list (today) but they haven't come through yet. 14:13:29 kbutler: which list did you use? 14:13:41 The docs list 14:13:52 kbutler: Did you send it recently? I usually find my e-mail goes out on the list very quickly. 14:14:07 I don't remember seeing it either 14:14:12 It's been a bout 30 or 45m at this point I think? A while. I haven't seen it. 14:15:17 I just checled MarkMail and I on't see it. 14:15:24 *don't 14:15:52 kbutler: I would suggest you resend it and perhaps forward it to some of us so we can have a look at it. 14:15:59 Sure. 14:16:19 our mail server has been screwed up this week so it's entirely possible it's stuck somewhere. :P 14:16:21 did you want to some questions now? or maybe near the end of the meeting? 14:16:34 did you want to ASK some questions now? 14:17:20 (or after the meeting, I can stay on IRC to help as much as I can 14:18:08 I just wanted to add that I was able to add a nice section on basic usage of the OPAC, as a way to add info on the 2.6 WCAG feature 14:18:22 yboston++ 14:18:46 it was some work my intern did, and I added some "search URL" stuff that I had planned to add 14:18:52 yay for deadliens 14:19:43 yboston++ 14:19:47 yboston: Was that info taken from the old 1.6 docs? 14:20:14 I think so, but I think it also existed in 2.0 14:20:25 yboston++ 14:20:51 now that I am getting a hang of the Git backporting, I think I can start putting a dent on adding the work the intern did 14:21:05 yboston++ 14:21:37 any other comments or questions about the 2.6 new features? I wish that we had some ESi folks here, but according to their poll votes, they would not make it at this time 14:21:44 yboston: as you do, please add them to the DONE list here: 14:21:45 http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:todo 14:22:28 akilsdonk: do you have a minute to give us an update on ESI docs for 2.6 features? 14:22:48 we'll see if she has time to chime in 14:22:49 I need to first add a listing of what the intern worked on, which is somewhere on the DIG wiki, and link it to the todo page 14:23:26 FWIW, I don't think the EDI documentation jpringle signed up for pertains to a new 2.6 feature. 14:23:41 At least, I can't recall any new EDI features in 2.6. 14:23:55 #action yboston will update general DIG to do list page with the work doen for 2.6 14:24:12 remingtron: the ESI docs for 2.6 are written, we just need to commit them to the repository. 14:24:35 we can have them in next week. 14:24:48 akilsdonk: great! thanks for the update 14:24:55 BTW, for those joining us late, feel free to introduce yourselves and check out the conversation log http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/evergreen/2014-07-02#i_108936 14:25:05 to catch up 14:26:06 OK, we are at almost the half-way point. 14:26:40 Should we continue more on the 2.6 ew features, or move to something else ? 14:26:58 I haven't heard anything from Elliot about his task in a while 14:27:34 I'll check in with him over email and make sure it gets reassigned if needed 14:27:45 how about we discuss plans for 2.7 and the web staff client? 14:27:45 should one of us email him directly to help him out? 14:28:08 thanks 14:28:40 #action remingtron will check in on Elliot to see if he needs help with documenting "User Editor: “Update Expire Date” button " 14:29:48 for a moment, can we go back to the Jenifer feature, so it might not be a 2.6 feature? 14:30:03 "EDI account set up" 14:30:56 I probably added that from the preview of the release notes 14:31:03 was it a mistake in the release notes perhaps? 14:31:11 left over from 2.5 or something? 14:31:20 AFAIK, there is nothing new to the EDI accounts. I don't think it was in the release notes either. 14:32:16 we can pick a volunteer to cofirm if it was and take it out, perhaps then also start the 2.7 DIG new feature list with it 14:32:30 I can start a page for 2.7 14:33:06 If you look at the history for that wiki page, there was no mention of EDI account setup until Jennifer added it as a task. 14:33:07 based on wiki history, jihpringle added that task and assigned herself to it 14:33:18 kmlussier: right-o 14:33:53 We can email her and coordinate to put that entry in 2.7 or the general to do page 14:33:56 yboston: I look at that interface all the time. I can confirm with 99.9 percent certainty that it isn't new. 14:34:17 Or, I should say, doesn't have anything new on it. 14:34:28 kmlussier: 99.9% coming fom you is good enough for me 14:34:32 sure, no need to wait on that task. let's move on to 2.7 14:35:13 I can take care of both, creating new page and moving the content 14:35:21 I think we should get an early start on documenting the web staff client interfaces 14:35:25 yboston++ 14:35:52 web staff circ screens seem mostly operational now 14:35:58 #action yboston will move EDI entry from 2.6 DIG new features and put it in a new 2.7 DIG new features page; also email Jenifer to warn her 14:37:25 remingtron: I would like to run that by Bill to see if what he recommends 14:37:40 yboston: sounds wise 14:37:41 in terms of what UI we should stay away from or which ones should stay similar 14:38:29 I gues we can start with a new section under "using the OPAC" dedicated to the new client , with proper warnings 14:38:47 that it is still in pre-realse form 14:38:53 *release 14:39:21 Under using the OPAC? 14:39:24 yboston: good point, we don't want to release any docs before the web interface is released 14:39:37 I am sorry, under "using the staf client" 14:39:48 Ok, that sounds better. :) 14:40:19 I'm worried that things may still change as people offer feedback and testing begins. 14:40:23 in theory we could do it as part of an index with warnings that this is pre-release features or we can in theory create a new Git branch for syaf client documentation to be merged later? 14:41:13 yeah, we could work in a collab branch and update things if they change 14:41:16 BTW, kbutler I see your email now 14:41:41 yboston you may be the only one. :) 14:42:27 remingtron: yes, Git collab branch sounds like a good idea 14:42:36 I don't see it. 14:43:34 so I see a few things that we need to assign volunteers for right now 14:43:47 yboston: I'll setup a collab branch and a bug report for work on the web staff client 14:44:03 remingtron: that was the first one, save me some typing 14:44:16 kmlussier: looks like your email server decided it was spam (I got a bounceback). 14:44:42 remingtron: no matter what Bill says, it will be very god pracitce for Git to create and use a collab branch 14:44:56 but let us know what he says at this point, if that is OK with you 14:45:24 sorry, that should have said, it would be very good practice for us DIG members to use a collab branch 14:45:47 yboston: yes, I'll ask Bill and make sure DIG knows what he recommends 14:45:48 the other dangling issue is to help kate 14:46:10 I can help her since it has to do with documenting older features, which I want to work on 14:46:26 remington: BTW< should I make the "action: or do you want to do it? 14:47:12 I think you have to make the actions for them to stick 14:47:37 #action yboston will help kbutler with her 2.6 task "Add granular settings for requiring staff initials for notes. " 14:47:46 OK 14:47:59 Thanks yboston 14:48:42 #action remingtron will reach out to Bill about what we can start documenting of the new browser staff client; also will experiment with setting up a Git collab brnach to work on 14:49:25 BTW, should we add an agenda item to follow up on lingering 2.6 issues for next meeting? 14:49:55 Sure, why not? 14:50:30 #action yboston add item to April's DIG meeting agenda about following up on ligering 2.6 new features work 14:50:55 so we are at the 50 minute mark 14:51:12 yboston: you mean August's meeting? 14:51:23 darn it 14:51:52 #action yboston add item to August DIG meeting agenda about following up on ligering 2.6 new features work 14:52:25 on to new business? 14:52:26 does anyone have any questions they would like to ask, specially does that have not spoken yet? A quick conversation about 2.7? 14:52:54 I was thinking of skipping new business for next meeting because of the time 14:53:03 or putting it up on the mailing list 14:53:25 I don't think there's much we can do for 2.7 until new features start going in. 14:53:50 kmlussier: I think there is a lot we could do with the web staff client 14:53:56 are there any features that are "guaranteed" to be in so far? 14:54:07 at least scoping out how much will need to be changed in the docs 14:55:00 it might mean reading over all the circ UI docs 14:55:04 remingtron: Sure, I was thinking of the features unrelated to the web client. 14:55:18 kmlussier: right, then I agree 14:55:33 bshum: hypothetically are there any features that are "guaranteed" to be in 2.7 so far? so we can start trying to prepare the docs already 14:56:03 bshum: it might be way to early for alost any new 2.7 feature, but wondering if something was definetly going 14:56:11 *almost 14:57:02 I guess, we can look into working on older features while we wait for the 2.7 features to be finalized 14:57:39 I can send an email to the list to slect amonst ourselves some older features to work on, hopefull we can get newcomers involved too 14:58:28 yboston: yeah, let's focus on older features and web staff client updates now, then hopefully switch to new features as they come 14:58:39 OK 14:58:46 yboston: This list will give you an idea of what might be eligible for 2.7 http://bit.ly/1qyGrOx 14:59:02 But until the code is tested, I don't think there's any guarantee that anything will definitely make the cut. 14:59:20 thanks 14:59:48 kmlussier: yes, without testing nothing should be guranteed 15:00:11 So should we each commit to 1 to 3 features from the 2.5 list between now and the next meeting? 15:00:19 you read my mind 15:00:34 * kmlussier is psychic. :) 15:00:55 +1 15:01:02 +1 15:01:03 #action yboston start a thread on DIG mailing list on targeting small older docuemntation tasks for the month of July; like working on 1 to 3 features from the 2.5 list between now and the next meeting? 15:01:32 we're making progress! I'm so excited! 15:02:12 it is 3:01 PM EST, any last thoughts or do we want to keep going? 15:02:29 also, kbutler I am free to chat after the meeting if you want 15:02:34 I think we're ready to finish 15:02:37 though I need to review your email carefully first 15:02:45 Sure. I'll be around for a bit. 15:02:46 I think so too, but always like to offer a choice 15:03:16 #endmeeting