15:07:37 #startmeeting Evergreen Development meeting, 3 June 2015 15:07:37 Meeting started Wed Jun 3 15:07:37 2015 US/Eastern. The chair is gmcharlt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:07:37 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:07:37 The meeting name has been set to 'evergreen_development_meeting__3_june_2015' 15:07:41 #info Agenda is http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2015-06-03 15:07:46 #topic Introductions 15:07:51 #info Galen Charlton, ESI 15:08:09 #info Thomas Berezansky, MVLC 15:08:17 #info Josh Stompro, LARL 15:08:19 #info Jason Stephenson, MVLC 15:08:30 #info dbwells = Dan Wells, Hekman Library (Calvin College) 15:08:42 #info jeffdavis = Jeff Davis, Sitka 15:08:45 #info dbs = Dan Scott, Laurentian University 15:08:45 #info remingtron = Remington Steed, Hekman Library (Calvin College) 15:08:54 #info kmlussier is Kathy Lussier, MassLNC 15:08:59 #info ldw = Liam Whalen, Sitka 15:09:25 #info jeff = Jeff Godin, Traverse Area District Library (TADL) 15:09:26 Relying on Panera wireless is probably not the best way to stay connected to a meeting. 15:09:38 :) 15:09:43 tasty, though 15:09:58 Can't be worse than our wifi today. I plugged in. 15:11:07 ok, so moving on 15:11:14 #topic OpenSRF udpate 15:11:49 #info 2.4.1 will be released tomorrow, 4 June 2015; minor release containing a significant websockets fix, some doc improvements, and minor srfsh enhancements 15:11:57 questions? 15:12:19 What's the lp bug # for the websockets fix. I'd like to read about it. 15:12:28 Dyrcona: 1418613 15:12:36 Thanks. 15:13:04 anything else? 15:13:48 gmcharlt: any desire for recent srfsh pullrequests to be merged before tomorrow, or would you prefer not? 15:14:22 jeff: I have such a desire, indeed, if you have time to look at them 15:14:46 but no big deal either way 15:14:54 sounds good. 15:16:00 thanks! 15:16:01 moving on 15:16:09 #topic Evergreen update 15:16:12 Dyrcona: you have the follor 15:16:15 floor, even 15:16:37 Well, I am looking to gather up items for the 2.9 Road Map. 15:17:10 It looks like we might not have enough people here to really talk about it. 15:17:48 well, I can toss out a few items that ESI is hoping to get in 15:17:50 Is it something we can add to a wiki page? 15:18:50 kmlussier: Yes, actually there are wiki pages for the previous releases. 15:19:07 specifically, the results of the cataloging sprint of the webstaff client, to wit - MARC editor, record buckets interface, Angular Z39.50 client, the MARC tag tables service, and an Angular holdings maintenance editor 15:19:10 * dbs has no solid plans 15:19:56 and depending on timing, at least some of Angular admin/config interfaces 15:19:58 would like to address some of the authority linked data possibilities as outlined on the list a month or two ago but tuits 15:20:51 I mentioned some things in my plans/goals email: http://markmail.org/message/zm6hy45zqbhxqvoa 15:20:52 MassLNC has an activity metric project on its way, but, since ESI is doing it, can't speak to whether it would be ready for 2.9. 15:21:32 * kmlussier would love to see the negative balances branch on that roadmap. :) 15:21:43 So, I'll start the new road map and link it from here: http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=faqs:evergreen_roadmap 15:21:48 At Sitka we've been working on pushing local changes upstream, so we have a bunch of pullrequests in LP targeted at 2.next. Not sure which of them are "big" enough to specify on a roadmap. 15:21:48 Dyrcona++ 15:22:39 bug 1353643 for example 15:22:39 Launchpad bug 1353643 in Evergreen "URI $9 displayes too many links in TPAC" (affected: 1, heat: 8) [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1353643 15:23:31 Well, since it is a wiki, I don't have a problem with people adding whatever, as long as they don't have a problem with me or someone else removing it later. :) 15:23:37 I think it's good to get any new features on that roadmap, even if they are small. Just to give people an idea of what they might see. 15:24:27 Ok, I'll add "put the bug on the roadmap" to our workflow for this stuff. Thanks! 15:24:38 * kmlussier would like to get bug 1422802 straightened out by release time. 15:24:38 Launchpad bug 1422802 in Evergreen "Parts need to be more visible on the place holds screen" (affected: 2, heat: 10) [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1422802 - Assigned to Kathy Lussier (klussier) 15:26:14 On a related note, is it too soon to create milestones in LP? 15:28:16 Dyrcona: for a 2.9-alpha or the like? 15:28:25 gmcharlt: Yes. 15:28:32 And a 2.9 series. 15:28:46 seems reasonable to do so to me 15:30:00 Ok. I can do that after the meeting. 15:31:43 #action Dyrcona to add series and milestone(s) for 2.9 in Launchpad. 15:31:52 I think it's better to not have a 2.9 series until it splits from master, but I can't recall why I think that. 15:32:17 hmm. 15:32:37 dbwells: because there's a default series (master, basically) which acts as the most recent series 15:32:55 if we create a 2.9, it creates extra, unnecessary work 15:33:03 Ok, then we'll wait. 15:33:16 At what point do we usually split? alpha? 15:33:30 +1 for 2.9-alpha, etc targets, though 15:34:15 Dyrcona: we've been not splitting until release. i.e. 2.9 and master are one and the same until we actually branch in git. 15:34:20 Dyrcona: i'd say beta. that's when we usually create the rel_x_y branch 15:34:44 OK. I should have remembered that. :) 15:34:58 hmm, looks like it's easy enough to move a milestone from one series to another 15:35:35 if we create a 2.9-alpha milestone now, that would mean that 2.next would be used for stuff meant for the post-2.9 future? 15:35:42 but, yeah, master and 2.9 will effectively be the same target until after 2.9.0 is cut (since we discourage feature dev during beta period) 15:36:25 gmcharlt: that's my understanding, yes. (time to rename 2.next yet?) 15:37:30 2.next => gallifrey 15:37:32 Ok, so I'll add the 2.9-alpha milestone and we can move it. 15:38:00 sounds good 15:40:20 I should probably get an action item for the road map, too, just to make it official. 15:40:55 indeed 15:41:39 Does it work if anyone does it, or does the person who started the meeting have to do it? (I tried adding one earlier.) 15:41:50 anybody can do it 15:43:58 #action Dyrcona to create 2.9 road map and add it to DokuWiki at http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=faqs:evergreen_roadmap 15:44:37 any other questions for Dyrcona or discussions on the ramp-up to 2.9? 15:44:38 Dyrcona++ 15:46:36 ok, moving on 15:46:44 #topic Updates and new business 15:47:28 #info QA proposal - http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-dev/2015-May/009840.html 15:47:51 this came out of the EG conference and got a bit of attention, but just a bit 15:48:12 so just bringing it up now in case folks have any questions 15:48:32 I'm in favour of cats. 15:49:21 I'm +1 on the proposal. 15:49:31 +1 15:49:50 +1 on the proposal, but I'm more of a dog person 15:50:04 +1 15:52:16 If it turns out to not work as is, we can always change it in the future. 15:52:42 FWIW, I've started putting in test plans in my OpenSRF patches 15:53:53 gmcharlt++ # I noticed and would have tried it out, but the meeting came up. 15:54:10 in other news 15:54:39 #action gmcharlt and eeevil to organize a webstaff client hacking day in July 15:55:00 anything else that folks want to bring up? 15:55:33 kmlussier: Anything about bug squashing days? 15:55:41 Yes! 15:56:00 #info Bug Squashing Day is Wednesday, June 10 15:56:12 I hope you all can set aside some time to help out. 15:56:31 I forgot to add it to the calendar. I'll do so now. 15:56:39 I have a few people from PINES that I think I'll be able to get to participate that haven't participated before. 15:56:49 terran: That's awesome! 15:57:12 If anyone needs a Sandbox, try to get the requests in by the end of the week so that we have a bit of time to get them ready. 15:57:52 I'd really appreciate it if someone would test this fix I posted for bug squashing day: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1454871 15:57:52 Launchpad bug 1454871 in Evergreen "KPAC Hold Notifications - SMS" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] 15:59:02 terran: I'll keep my eye on that one, but probably not till next week. Maybe that'll be something we can test during bug day. 15:59:09 KPAC loves misery. 15:59:19 Err, misery loves company. 15:59:44 bshum +1 16:00:12 (also, regrets that I'm late and mostly missed the meeting) 16:00:15 @who loves misery? 16:00:15 mtcarlson loves misery. 16:00:24 heh 16:00:33 heh indeed 16:00:47 well, since we've descended into playing with the bot... I think it's a wrap! ;) 16:00:52 #endmeeting