13:02:45 <kmlussier> #startmeeting 2017-03-28 Evergreen 3.0 Release Manager Election 13:02:45 <pinesol_green> Meeting started Tue Mar 28 13:02:45 2017 US/Eastern. The chair is kmlussier. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:02:45 <pinesol_green> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 13:02:45 <pinesol_green> The meeting name has been set to '2017_03_28_evergreen_3_0_release_manager_election' 13:02:51 <kmlussier> #topic Introductions 13:02:57 <kmlussier> Please introduce yourselves with #info 13:03:05 <kmlussier> #info kmlussier is Kathy Lussier, MassLNC 13:03:13 <phasefx> #info Jason Etheridge, Equinox 13:03:23 <jeff> #info jeff is Jeff Godin, Traverse Area District Library (TADL) 13:03:44 <Dyrcona> #info Jason Stephenson, C/W MARS 13:03:45 <berick> #info berick Bill Erickson, KCLS 13:03:49 <JBoyer> #info JBoyer is Jason Boyer from the IN State Library 13:03:51 <gmcharlt> #info Galen Charlton, EOLI 13:04:21 <dbwells> #info dbwells is Dan Wells, Hekman Library (Calvin College) 13:04:28 <rhamby> #info Rogan Hamby, EOLI 13:04:49 <remingtron> #info remingtron is Remington Steed, Hekman Library (Calvin College) 13:05:07 <Bmagic> #info Blake GH, MOBIUS 13:05:12 <csharp> #info csharp is Chris Sharp, GPLS 13:05:33 <abneiman> #info abneiman Andrea Buntz Neiman, EOLI 13:05:40 <kmlussier> #topic Release Manager Election 13:06:02 <kmlussier> #info Galen Charlton has been nominated for 3.0 Release Manager. 13:06:08 <kmlussier> #link http://markmail.org/message/myn75cfyzg6gldll is his proposal 13:06:27 <kmlussier> gmcharlt: Do you have anything to add to the proposal? 13:06:33 <gmcharlt> kmlussier: I do 13:06:39 <gmcharlt> #info Proposed 3.0 schedule - http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/77 13:06:59 <gmcharlt> so, this follows the typical schedule, more or less, with the following changes 13:07:14 <gmcharlt> - intentionally allowing a bit more time, and setting an early October release date accordingly 13:07:22 <gmcharlt> - suggesting dates for the "Feedback Fests" 13:07:59 <kmlussier> +1 to feedback fests! 13:08:26 <dbs> #info Dan Scott, Laurentian University 13:09:27 <gmcharlt> the primary release priority would be, of course, completion of the web staff interface and recommendation that it start being used in full production capacity 13:09:34 <gmcharlt> with a concurrent deprecation of the XUL client 13:10:10 <gmcharlt> questions regarding the proposal? 13:11:28 <kmlussier> I have a question about the schedule for translators, which is the same question I raised at the most recent dev meeting. Will there be opportunity to give more time for translators to do their work beyond the .0 release and maybe generate the translations again before .1? 13:12:46 <gmcharlt> I think we can do that, pending discussions on whether we can readily add more translation branches into LP 13:13:12 <kmlussier> Also, are you planning to be buildmaster, or should we be putting out a call for somebody to take on that role? 13:13:28 <gmcharlt> I intend to put out a separate call 13:13:42 <remingtron> When would an alpha release be cut, if desired? Would that be on Sept 1 also? 13:14:44 <gmcharlt> around then, yes — and to be honest, I currently view the alpha release primarily as a translation milestone 13:15:16 <bshum> gmcharlt: When you're talking about "add more translation branches into LP", are you talking about series-based translation support? 13:15:23 <gmcharlt> bshum: yes 13:15:37 <bshum> Okay, just making sure I understood the target 13:16:07 <kmlussier> Does anybody else have more questions for gmcharlt regarding release goals, timelines or anything else related to the release? 13:17:26 <Dyrcona> These feedback fests: You're hoping to get help reviewing pull requests, right? I mean, you aren't planning to review every pull request yourself? 13:17:41 <terran> #info terran is Terran McCanna, PINES 13:17:45 <gmcharlt> heck no, re doing it by myself 13:18:07 <kmlussier> Ha! 13:18:17 <gmcharlt> the idea is to arrange a particular set of time where as many people as possible are reviewing pull requests 13:18:52 <gmcharlt> with emphasis on (a) getting at least some feedback to all of them and (b) identifying the ones that perhaps need breaking up 13:19:07 <gmcharlt> I envision my role during the process as much more nudging than direct patch reviewing 13:19:09 <Dyrcona> OK. Sounds good. 13:19:27 <kmlussier> And hopefully removing the pullrequest when the patch is determined to not be ready? 13:19:34 <gmcharlt> yeah 13:19:40 <kmlussier> OK, I'm going to leave another minute for questions, and if nobody speaks up, I'll start the vote. 13:20:57 <kmlussier> #startvote Should gmcharlt be 3.0 Release Manager? yes, no, abstain 13:20:57 <pinesol_green> Begin voting on: Should gmcharlt be 3.0 Release Manager? Valid vote options are yes, no, abstain. 13:20:57 <pinesol_green> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 13:21:07 <bshum> #vote yes 13:21:08 <csharp> #vote yes 13:21:10 <JBoyer> #vote yes 13:21:10 <terran> #vote yes 13:21:15 <berick> #vote yes 13:21:17 <phasefx> #vote yes 13:21:18 <Dyrcona> #vote yes 13:21:24 <abneiman> #vote yes 13:21:42 <rhamby> #vote yes 13:21:42 <kmlussier> #vote yes 13:21:46 <dbs> #vote yes 13:21:46 <jeff> #vote yes 13:21:57 <remingtron> #vote yes 13:22:49 <kmlussier> #endvote 13:22:49 <pinesol_green> Voted on "Should gmcharlt be 3.0 Release Manager?" Results are 13:22:49 <pinesol_green> yes (13): kmlussier, JBoyer, abneiman, jeff, berick, remingtron, phasefx, Dyrcona, terran, csharp, bshum, dbs, rhamby 13:22:55 <kmlussier> Congratulations gmcharlt! 13:23:05 <JBoyer> gmcharlt++ 13:23:07 <csharp> gmcharlt++ 13:23:13 <gmcharlt> thank you all for your turst 13:23:17 <gmcharlt> er, trust 13:23:27 <gmcharlt> (good thing I did not promise a typo-free release) 13:23:29 <rhamby> we welcome our new overlor... er, release manager 13:23:33 <csharp> @karma turst 13:23:33 <pinesol_green> csharp: turst has neutral karma. 13:23:40 <kmlussier> Does anyone have any other questions or things to say before we wrap up? 13:23:45 <jeff> gmcharlt++ 13:23:58 <kmlussier> gmcharlt: What? No typo-free release? Now you tell us! 13:23:59 <gmcharlt> just to raise the question, which doesn't need to be answered immediately 13:24:20 <gmcharlt> for 2.12 and 2.11... who will be/continue as RMaints? 13:25:16 <kmlussier> I can be 2.12 release maintainer for herding cats, but maybe we need somebody else to fill in as buildmaster? 13:25:36 <kmlussier> Since gmcharlt will be a little busy with 3.0 13:25:43 <gmcharlt> indeed 13:26:03 <gmcharlt> I can make the call for buildmasters be inclusive of both 3.0 and the maintenance releases 13:26:23 * kmlussier could probably learn to build a release, but it might take more time away from gmcharlt thank if he built the release himself. 13:26:57 <dbwells> #vote yes (sorry, had to step away for a minute) 13:27:09 <miker> #vote yes 13:27:18 <miker> phone call distracted me, sorry! 13:27:57 <kmlussier> #action gmcharlt to put out call for buildmasters for both 3.0 and maintenance releases 13:28:03 <kmlussier> Anything else? 13:28:18 <gmcharlt> miker: you'll continue as 2.11 rmaint? 13:29:19 <miker> gmcharlt: aye 13:29:27 <gmcharlt> kmlussier++ 13:29:29 <gmcharlt> miker++ 13:29:33 <mmorgan> gmcharlt++ kmlussier++ miker++ 13:29:49 <kmlussier> #endmeeting