14:05:22 <remingtron> #startmeeting 2019-04-11 – Documentation Interest Group Meeting 14:05:22 <pinesol> Meeting started Thu Apr 11 14:05:22 2019 US/Eastern. The chair is remingtron. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:05:22 <pinesol> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:05:22 <pinesol> The meeting name has been set to '2019_04_11___documentation_interest_group_meeting' 14:05:48 <remingtron> #topic Introductions 14:06:13 <sandbergja> #info sandbergja is Jane Sandberg, Linn-Benton Community College 14:06:15 <remingtron> Any docs interested people, please introduce yourselves! 14:06:30 <remingtron> #info remingtron is Remington Steed, Hekman Library (Calvin College) 14:06:40 <jihpringle> #info jihpringle is Jennifer Pringle, BC Libraries Cooperative (Sitka) 14:07:15 <abneiman> #info abneiman is Andrea Buntz Neiman, Equinox 14:07:28 <remingtron> Welcome folks! 14:08:34 <sandbergja> remingtron++ # getting us back together! 14:08:57 <remingtron> sandbergja++ # poking me for the meeting 14:09:13 <remingtron> sandbergja: any agenda topics? anyone have questions they want to discuss? 14:09:47 <abneiman> do we have a facilitator for the hackfest / interest group at the conference? 14:09:53 <abneiman> I know there was some back-n-forth 14:10:11 <sandbergja> I am facilitating the interest group meeting 14:10:20 <abneiman> sandbergja++ 14:10:48 <sandbergja> And I'm feeling like there are going to be enough experienced DIG members there during both morning and afternoon hackfest that natural facilitators can emerge as needed 14:11:31 <abneiman> ok, cool 14:11:50 <sandbergja> Actually, wait. Katie is facilitating the afternoon session officially. 14:12:13 <sandbergja> So it will just be kind of amorphous in the morning, which I think is fine 14:12:49 <abneiman> thanks! there were lots of threads and I couldn't recall how it all ended up 14:12:52 <Bmagic> #info Bmagic is Blake GH, MOBIUS 14:12:59 <remingtron> welcome Bmagic! 14:13:03 <Bmagic> TY 14:13:11 <sandbergja> As far as the Docs Interest Group meeting at the conference, I was wanting to do some "future of the docs" type activity 14:13:31 <sandbergja> To dream big about what the ideal docs might be, and start strategizing about how we get there 14:13:49 <sandbergja> but I'm very open to other agenda items too! 14:14:39 <remingtron> sandbergja: sounds cool, may stir up more interest 14:15:37 <Bmagic> We started using Antora as a front end for our docs. Might put that on the list of "dreaming" 14:16:56 <remingtron> Antora looks cool, hadn't heard of it until now 14:17:10 <sandbergja> Bmagic: Cool! Would you be able to do a brief demo at the DIG meeting at the conference? 14:17:22 <Bmagic> sure, lol, not sure 14:17:37 <sandbergja> hahaha 14:18:05 <Bmagic> I can show something 14:18:14 <sandbergja> That would be fantastic! 14:18:48 <sandbergja> Maybe another discussion topic for today: how are we going to get a new DIG facilitator? :-) 14:19:00 <sandbergja> Since ohiojoe sadly had to step down. :-( 14:21:19 <sandbergja> ...and crickets 14:21:28 <abneiman> well it's certainly something that should be mentioned before / during the hackfest, to see if anyone's interested (hopefully there will be more people than the few of us here now) 14:21:33 <abneiman> sorry, slow typer :) 14:21:38 <sandbergja> no worries! 14:22:12 <abneiman> do any of you have someone in mind who may be interested and willing to step up? 14:23:14 <sandbergja> I have people in mind, for sure, but I have no idea how interested and available they are, hahaha 14:23:16 <remingtron> maybe we need a job description 14:23:18 <abneiman> and is the thought that the Facilitator will continue a la Joe in sending meeting reminders/setting agendas/running meetings, or is there a vision for a larger role? 14:23:19 <Bmagic> what's the job description? 14:23:29 <abneiman> yeah, exactly what I'm getting at 14:23:35 <sandbergja> I think it's on the wiki somewhere 14:23:54 <sandbergja> #link https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:digparticipants&s[]=facilitator&s[]=dig 14:24:32 <Bmagic> oh boy, that looks like a lot 14:24:36 <remingtron> I bet people would be more willing to consider it if they known "all you have to do is organize meetings", or whatever 14:25:01 <Bmagic> nevermind, lol, I see it's broken down 14:25:04 <remingtron> seems like our biggest need is an organizer, and/or motivator 14:25:15 <remingtron> doesn't need to be a technical person, right? 14:25:42 <abneiman> I wouldn't think it needs to be a technical person, just an organized person 14:25:48 <sandbergja> Correct! I know yboston did a lot of emphasis on training in asciidoc and other more technical sides, but I don't think that's necessary 14:26:37 <Bmagic> dluch might be interested 14:26:50 <sandbergja> !!!!!!!! 14:26:55 <sandbergja> dluch would be awesome 14:27:16 <remingtron> I'd vote for dluch 14:27:16 <abneiman> can you sound her out, Bmagic? 14:27:30 <Bmagic> Debbie Luchenbill 14:27:52 <Bmagic> It's funny, I have her in slack and you all in IRC 14:28:01 <Bmagic> ALT-tab FTW 14:29:17 <Bmagic> anyway.... 14:29:52 <Bmagic> ha! She just said she would do it! 14:30:00 <Bmagic> The pressure was too high 14:30:16 <Bmagic> and she is trying to get logged in here 14:30:20 <remingtron> hurray! 14:30:23 <sandbergja> dluch++ 14:30:25 <jihpringle> dluch++ 14:30:33 <sandbergja> pressuring_people++ 14:30:57 <abneiman> dluch++ 14:31:03 <Bmagic> dluch++ 14:33:15 <Bmagic> I hope you all aren't waiting for her to connect.. oh there she is 14:33:20 <sandbergja> Welcome, dluch! 14:33:31 <dluch> Hiya, everyone! Sorry to be late 14:33:38 <remingtron> dluch++ 14:33:53 <Bmagic> @karma dluch 14:33:53 <pinesol> Bmagic: Karma for "dluch" has been increased 7 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 7. 14:34:15 <remingtron> dluch: thanks for stepping in as facilitator! 14:34:25 <Bmagic> @karma pressuring_people 14:34:25 <pinesol> Bmagic: Karma for "pressuring_people" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. 14:34:30 <dluch> You're welcome! My pleasure. :-) 14:35:16 <sandbergja> Is there anything you'd like to talk about, dluch? 14:35:31 <dluch> #info dluch is Debbie Luchenbill, MOBIUS 14:35:31 <sandbergja> Or any other agenda items? 14:36:06 <dluch> Lol, unfortunately, I couldn't get connected through Quassel, so I don't actually know what you've already talked about...through the agenda already? 14:36:24 <remingtron> dluch: no formal agenda today 14:36:48 <sandbergja> we talked about getting a new facilitator (yay!) and planning for the DIG presence at the conference 14:36:53 <dluch> Ah. That explains why I can't find it, lol 14:37:03 <jihpringle> do we want to talk about 3.3 docs? 14:37:15 <sandbergja> good idea! 14:37:45 <dluch> Excellent. @sandbergja, you all are set for DIG hackfest at the conference? 14:37:55 <dluch> Ooo, yes. 3.3 docs! 14:38:22 <sandbergja> A lot of admin interfaces have been transitioned to Angular in 3.3 14:38:32 <sandbergja> which would require a lot of new screenshots 14:38:57 <sandbergja> My colleague Clare is doing some screenshots for the new Angular MARC Batch Import/Export 14:39:13 <sandbergja> but probably booking admin, server admin, and acq admin could use new screenshots 14:39:33 <dluch> Is that something we can work on during the hackfest? 14:39:45 <sandbergja> And we should also plan how we are going to document the new experimental staff-only catalog 14:39:58 <dluch> (In addition to what folks are doing individually...) 14:40:02 <sandbergja> I think that would be a great activity for someone at the hackfest! 14:40:24 <sandbergja> Especially if somebody is coming in without a set idea of what they want to do at the hackfest 14:40:41 <dluch> Yes! 14:40:52 <dluch> (like me, lol) 14:41:31 <sandbergja> same; I hadn't really thought that far ahead. :-) 14:42:11 <dluch> @jihpringle was there something specific about 3.3 docs you wanted to talk about? 14:42:12 <pinesol> dluch: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. 14:42:14 <abneiman> maybe a short, easily-accessible list of things for people looking for hackfest activities? 14:42:37 <jihpringle> not really, I just noticed the other day that we didn't have them and 3.3 is out 14:42:53 <sandbergja> jihpringle: oh, good point! 14:43:14 <sandbergja> I can email Robert and ask him to set that up on the Web site 14:43:36 <remingtron> sandbergja: I have an email written 14:43:42 <remingtron> I'll send it momentarily 14:43:44 <sandbergja> remingtron++ 14:43:53 <dluch> remingtron++ 14:43:54 <pinesol> [evergreen|Remington Steed] Docs: Point to release notes for new version 3.3 - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=adf699f> 14:44:52 <jihpringle> maybe something for everyone to do as we're able is update https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:documentation_needs before the conference 14:45:13 <sandbergja> remingtron and I already updated the big list of doc needs 14:45:33 <jihpringle> sandbergja++ remingtron++ 14:45:48 <remingtron> jihpringle: great idea, though, to use that as the master list 14:45:50 <dluch> Oh, awesome! 14:45:52 <sandbergja> And I took some of the more comprehensive 3.3 release notes and just added them to the docs 14:45:59 <dluch> sandbergja++ remingtron++ 14:46:04 <remingtron> any new "easy" docs tasks for the hackfest can go there 14:46:06 <sandbergja> So, we have a start at documenting 3.3 14:46:20 <remingtron> sandbergja++ 14:47:05 <remingtron> keep in mind, Sitka is using AsciiDoc now, so it's easy to borrow from their docs 14:47:34 <remingtron> but maybe that's just for 3.1 and previous 14:48:09 <jihpringle> we'll be moving to 3.3 but not until the fall 14:48:56 <jihpringle> but please borrow anything that can fill in gaps from our docs :) 14:49:55 <dluch> jihpringle++ 14:50:51 <sandbergja> I have to head out in a minute or two 14:51:06 <sandbergja> anything else on the agenda? 14:51:27 <sandbergja> the informal agenda, that is 14:51:48 <dluch> Not from me 14:52:08 <jihpringle> not from me either 14:52:57 <sandbergja> dluch: thanks again for agreeing to facilitate! Feel free to reach out if you have any questions about it 14:55:48 <Bmagic> antora! antora! antora! 14:57:00 <remingtron> Bmagic: what do you like about antora? 14:57:14 <Bmagic> the resulting web interface 14:58:00 <Bmagic> nav menu, easy to style and brand. And it makes sense in the git repo. It forces a bit of organization. It has a notion of "modules" which could be "circ", "cat", "booking" etc 14:59:18 <Bmagic> I could start a branch..... 15:01:14 <remingtron> Bmagic: that would be awesome.... 15:01:24 <dluch> #endmeeting 15:01:25 <dluch> sorry 15:02:23 <Bmagic> :) 15:02:24 <remingtron> #chair dluch 15:02:24 <pinesol> Current chairs: dluch remingtron 15:02:37 <remingtron> ha, now dluch can end the meeting (if she wants) 15:02:50 <dluch> #endmeeting