14:05:22 #startmeeting 2019-04-11 – Documentation Interest Group Meeting 14:05:22 Meeting started Thu Apr 11 14:05:22 2019 US/Eastern. The chair is remingtron. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:05:22 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:05:22 The meeting name has been set to '2019_04_11___documentation_interest_group_meeting' 14:05:48 #topic Introductions 14:06:13 #info sandbergja is Jane Sandberg, Linn-Benton Community College 14:06:15 Any docs interested people, please introduce yourselves! 14:06:30 #info remingtron is Remington Steed, Hekman Library (Calvin College) 14:06:40 #info jihpringle is Jennifer Pringle, BC Libraries Cooperative (Sitka) 14:07:15 #info abneiman is Andrea Buntz Neiman, Equinox 14:07:28 Welcome folks! 14:08:34 remingtron++ # getting us back together! 14:08:57 sandbergja++ # poking me for the meeting 14:09:13 sandbergja: any agenda topics? anyone have questions they want to discuss? 14:09:47 do we have a facilitator for the hackfest / interest group at the conference? 14:09:53 I know there was some back-n-forth 14:10:11 I am facilitating the interest group meeting 14:10:20 sandbergja++ 14:10:48 And I'm feeling like there are going to be enough experienced DIG members there during both morning and afternoon hackfest that natural facilitators can emerge as needed 14:11:31 ok, cool 14:11:50 Actually, wait. Katie is facilitating the afternoon session officially. 14:12:13 So it will just be kind of amorphous in the morning, which I think is fine 14:12:49 thanks! there were lots of threads and I couldn't recall how it all ended up 14:12:52 #info Bmagic is Blake GH, MOBIUS 14:12:59 welcome Bmagic! 14:13:03 TY 14:13:11 As far as the Docs Interest Group meeting at the conference, I was wanting to do some "future of the docs" type activity 14:13:31 To dream big about what the ideal docs might be, and start strategizing about how we get there 14:13:49 but I'm very open to other agenda items too! 14:14:39 sandbergja: sounds cool, may stir up more interest 14:15:37 We started using Antora as a front end for our docs. Might put that on the list of "dreaming" 14:16:56 Antora looks cool, hadn't heard of it until now 14:17:10 Bmagic: Cool! Would you be able to do a brief demo at the DIG meeting at the conference? 14:17:22 sure, lol, not sure 14:17:37 hahaha 14:18:05 I can show something 14:18:14 That would be fantastic! 14:18:48 Maybe another discussion topic for today: how are we going to get a new DIG facilitator? :-) 14:19:00 Since ohiojoe sadly had to step down. :-( 14:21:19 ...and crickets 14:21:28 well it's certainly something that should be mentioned before / during the hackfest, to see if anyone's interested (hopefully there will be more people than the few of us here now) 14:21:33 sorry, slow typer :) 14:21:38 no worries! 14:22:12 do any of you have someone in mind who may be interested and willing to step up? 14:23:14 I have people in mind, for sure, but I have no idea how interested and available they are, hahaha 14:23:16 maybe we need a job description 14:23:18 and is the thought that the Facilitator will continue a la Joe in sending meeting reminders/setting agendas/running meetings, or is there a vision for a larger role? 14:23:19 what's the job description? 14:23:29 yeah, exactly what I'm getting at 14:23:35 I think it's on the wiki somewhere 14:23:54 #link https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:digparticipants&s[]=facilitator&s[]=dig 14:24:32 oh boy, that looks like a lot 14:24:36 I bet people would be more willing to consider it if they known "all you have to do is organize meetings", or whatever 14:25:01 nevermind, lol, I see it's broken down 14:25:04 seems like our biggest need is an organizer, and/or motivator 14:25:15 doesn't need to be a technical person, right? 14:25:42 I wouldn't think it needs to be a technical person, just an organized person 14:25:48 Correct! I know yboston did a lot of emphasis on training in asciidoc and other more technical sides, but I don't think that's necessary 14:26:37 dluch might be interested 14:26:50 !!!!!!!! 14:26:55 dluch would be awesome 14:27:16 I'd vote for dluch 14:27:16 can you sound her out, Bmagic? 14:27:30 Debbie Luchenbill 14:27:52 It's funny, I have her in slack and you all in IRC 14:28:01 ALT-tab FTW 14:29:17 anyway.... 14:29:52 ha! She just said she would do it! 14:30:00 The pressure was too high 14:30:16 and she is trying to get logged in here 14:30:20 hurray! 14:30:23 dluch++ 14:30:25 dluch++ 14:30:33 pressuring_people++ 14:30:57 dluch++ 14:31:03 dluch++ 14:33:15 I hope you all aren't waiting for her to connect.. oh there she is 14:33:20 Welcome, dluch! 14:33:31 Hiya, everyone! Sorry to be late 14:33:38 dluch++ 14:33:53 @karma dluch 14:33:53 Bmagic: Karma for "dluch" has been increased 7 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 7. 14:34:15 dluch: thanks for stepping in as facilitator! 14:34:25 @karma pressuring_people 14:34:25 Bmagic: Karma for "pressuring_people" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. 14:34:30 You're welcome! My pleasure. :-) 14:35:16 Is there anything you'd like to talk about, dluch? 14:35:31 #info dluch is Debbie Luchenbill, MOBIUS 14:35:31 Or any other agenda items? 14:36:06 Lol, unfortunately, I couldn't get connected through Quassel, so I don't actually know what you've already talked about...through the agenda already? 14:36:24 dluch: no formal agenda today 14:36:48 we talked about getting a new facilitator (yay!) and planning for the DIG presence at the conference 14:36:53 Ah. That explains why I can't find it, lol 14:37:03 do we want to talk about 3.3 docs? 14:37:15 good idea! 14:37:45 Excellent. @sandbergja, you all are set for DIG hackfest at the conference? 14:37:55 Ooo, yes. 3.3 docs! 14:38:22 A lot of admin interfaces have been transitioned to Angular in 3.3 14:38:32 which would require a lot of new screenshots 14:38:57 My colleague Clare is doing some screenshots for the new Angular MARC Batch Import/Export 14:39:13 but probably booking admin, server admin, and acq admin could use new screenshots 14:39:33 Is that something we can work on during the hackfest? 14:39:45 And we should also plan how we are going to document the new experimental staff-only catalog 14:39:58 (In addition to what folks are doing individually...) 14:40:02 I think that would be a great activity for someone at the hackfest! 14:40:24 Especially if somebody is coming in without a set idea of what they want to do at the hackfest 14:40:41 Yes! 14:40:52 (like me, lol) 14:41:31 same; I hadn't really thought that far ahead. :-) 14:42:11 @jihpringle was there something specific about 3.3 docs you wanted to talk about? 14:42:12 dluch: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. 14:42:14 maybe a short, easily-accessible list of things for people looking for hackfest activities? 14:42:37 not really, I just noticed the other day that we didn't have them and 3.3 is out 14:42:53 jihpringle: oh, good point! 14:43:14 I can email Robert and ask him to set that up on the Web site 14:43:36 sandbergja: I have an email written 14:43:42 I'll send it momentarily 14:43:44 remingtron++ 14:43:53 remingtron++ 14:43:54 [evergreen|Remington Steed] Docs: Point to release notes for new version 3.3 - 14:44:52 maybe something for everyone to do as we're able is update https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:documentation_needs before the conference 14:45:13 remingtron and I already updated the big list of doc needs 14:45:33 sandbergja++ remingtron++ 14:45:48 jihpringle: great idea, though, to use that as the master list 14:45:50 Oh, awesome! 14:45:52 And I took some of the more comprehensive 3.3 release notes and just added them to the docs 14:45:59 sandbergja++ remingtron++ 14:46:04 any new "easy" docs tasks for the hackfest can go there 14:46:06 So, we have a start at documenting 3.3 14:46:20 sandbergja++ 14:47:05 keep in mind, Sitka is using AsciiDoc now, so it's easy to borrow from their docs 14:47:34 but maybe that's just for 3.1 and previous 14:48:09 we'll be moving to 3.3 but not until the fall 14:48:56 but please borrow anything that can fill in gaps from our docs :) 14:49:55 jihpringle++ 14:50:51 I have to head out in a minute or two 14:51:06 anything else on the agenda? 14:51:27 the informal agenda, that is 14:51:48 Not from me 14:52:08 not from me either 14:52:57 dluch: thanks again for agreeing to facilitate! Feel free to reach out if you have any questions about it 14:55:48 antora! antora! antora! 14:57:00 Bmagic: what do you like about antora? 14:57:14 the resulting web interface 14:58:00 nav menu, easy to style and brand. And it makes sense in the git repo. It forces a bit of organization. It has a notion of "modules" which could be "circ", "cat", "booking" etc 14:59:18 I could start a branch..... 15:01:14 Bmagic: that would be awesome.... 15:01:24 #endmeeting 15:01:25 sorry 15:02:23 :) 15:02:24 #chair dluch 15:02:24 Current chairs: dluch remingtron 15:02:37 ha, now dluch can end the meeting (if she wants) 15:02:50 #endmeeting