14:00:27 #startmeeting EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-02-20, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-02-20 14:00:27 Meeting started Thu Feb 20 14:00:27 2020 US/Eastern. The chair is agoben. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:27 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00:27 The meeting name has been set to 'eob_evergreen_project_board_meeting_for_2020_02_20__agenda_https___wiki_evergreen_ils_org_doku_php_id_governance_minutes_2020_02_20' 14:00:34 #topic Roll Call 14:00:34 Use the #info command to provide name and affiliation 14:00:58 #info JBoyer = Jason Boyer, EOLI 14:00:59 #info agoben = Anna Goben, Evergreen Indiana 14:01:05 #info tlittle = Tiffany Little, PINES 14:01:06 #info gmcharlt = Galen Charlton, EOLI 14:01:33 #info Cowens = Chris Owens, COOL/BPL 14:01:33 csharp reported he will be unable to attend. 14:01:44 #info jvwoolf = Jessica Woolford, Bibliomation 14:02:05 #info nfBurton = Chris Burton, Niagara Falls Public Library 14:02:33 I don't see Holly listed as online, so let's get things started. 14:02:33 #info alynn26 = Lynn Floyd, Evergreen Indiana 14:02:40 #topic Approval of Minutes 14:02:46 #info Minutes from 2020-01-16 meeting: https://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2020/evergreen.2020-01-16-14.00.log.html 14:02:50 Corrections, updates, suggestions? 14:03:02 Looking good 14:03:14 Looks good to me 14:03:27 #startvote Accept minutes from 2020-01-16? yes, no 14:03:27 Begin voting on: Accept minutes from 2020-01-16? Valid vote options are yes, no. 14:03:27 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 14:03:33 #vote yes 14:03:36 #vote yes 14:03:37 #vote yes 14:03:40 #vote yes 14:03:42 #vote yes 14:03:42 #vote yes 14:03:50 #vote yes 14:03:56 #endvote 14:03:56 Voted on "Accept minutes from 2020-01-16?" Results are 14:03:56 yes (7): nfBurton, JBoyer, jvwoolf, Cowens, tlittle, gmcharlt, agoben 14:04:05 #topic Chair Report 14:04:22 Nothing specific to report here. 14:04:26 #topic Treasurer's Financial Report 14:05:16 #info Financial activity since prevous meeting has been centered on the 2020 conference as well as the venue contract review for the 2021 one 14:06:06 #info Next tasks includes preparing tax statements for TEP; I will be working on that, and will likely have the some questions, most likely for agoben 14:06:24 ++ 14:06:51 I also have an update re Conservancy doing collections on unpaid invoices which I'll share when we get to that point in the agenda 14:06:56 ++ 14:07:40 That everything for the Financial report then? 14:07:56 yep 14:08:01 #topic SFC Updates 14:08:14 gmcharlt, the floor is yours again. 14:08:19 whee 14:08:51 so, here's the summary from Bradley Kuhn.. they are making collection attempts to satsify their auditors 14:09:08 and are doing it as they would with their other projects 14:10:00 they would be amenable to declaring the unpaid invoices as bad debt... but not until we have 501(c)3 status and (presumably as a board action) are ourselves willing to do so 14:10:14 Does that mean they will or will not be sharing a list of who they're contacting? 14:10:19 Do we have any idea of the scope of the collections that pertain to Evergreen? 14:10:25 if there ends up being a specific case where there's a problem, we can reach out to Karen 14:10:31 I'd also like to know how much "bad debt" we're talking about. 14:10:50 one moment, I can generate that 14:11:18 Rather not write off $10K, but $1K might be worth it shortly to preserve vendor/community relations given the timeframes in question. 14:11:30 Agreed 14:11:33 agreed 14:13:21 "gmcharlt" at 168.25.130.30 pasted "unpaid invoices" (26 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/10129 14:14:06 Ugh. Right in the middle Anna 14:14:13 Hmmm, that's higher than I'd like 14:14:56 hmm, the $4,150 one is likely a misunderstanding one way or another 14:15:06 That's the balance, isn't it? 14:15:14 (2018 sponsorship from MOBIUS) 14:15:15 Pleading ignorance, are we sure these are legitimate from 4+ years ago? 14:15:22 Oh, I thought that was the balance 14:15:34 well, lemme double check 14:15:43 Ah, so the large one is probably on file with us, just not with SFC. 14:15:46 whoops 14:16:18 Cowens: I'm sure they're legitimate as good faith invoices 14:16:40 but obviously I can't speak to any cases where something literally got lost in the mail or the like four years ago :/ 14:17:09 Yeah, it just seems odd for invoices to go unpaid for that long. 14:17:14 Ok, we know where we are then. 14:17:47 Since we can't take any action on the debt immediately, are there any we want to follow up with SFC on now for discussions? 14:17:55 I'm dubious that organizations like Stat and Sage didn't pay 14:18:20 I can follow up with MOBIUS, as I'm sure that's just as case of something getting on the wrong set of books 14:18:25 *a case 14:18:29 Yeah, if those amounts don't come in around conference time people notice. 14:19:20 Which suggests they are chasing paperwork to verify for now. 14:19:42 yeah 14:19:46 Do we want to request kid gloves for anyone or let them do their thing until we get our paperwork here? 14:20:38 none of them jump out to me as an emergency 14:20:42 I don't imagine they have a lot of flexibility with an active audit, but... 14:21:26 ++ Ok, with that roughly settled, we'll plan to keep an eye on things and make decisions as soon as we can later this year. 14:21:32 Any update on the grant report? 14:22:37 unfortunately not yet, but I'm still poking at it 14:22:53 ++ Let us know if you need anything from any of us! 14:23:01 #topic Release Manager Update 14:23:20 I know csharp is out. gmcharlt or berick have anything they want to mention? 14:23:43 Also many celebrations of the awesome work being done during this week's feedback fest! 14:23:56 Kudos to everyone involved! 14:24:01 terrannm++ 14:24:01 feedback++ 14:24:11 terranm++ 14:24:18 * berick is in a meeting :( 14:24:20 terranm++ 14:24:22 feedback++ 14:24:28 the main update I have for 3.4.x is mentioning bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1858448 14:24:29 Launchpad bug 1858448 in Evergreen 3.4 "Aged Payment (and Billing) Table Breaks Cash Report and Removes Relevant Payment Tracking Abilities" [High,Confirmed] 14:24:29 terranm++ 14:24:49 I'm about to make my first contribution! 14:24:50 which is a signfiicant one for anybody contemplating upgrading to 3.4 who also uses circulation aging 14:24:52 nfBurton+ 14:24:54 nfBurton++ 14:24:59 Ooo, that's a big one. Is there a fix on the way? 14:25:14 nfBurton++ 14:25:33 nfBurton++ 14:25:35 nfBurton++ 14:25:48 :D 14:26:47 nfBurton++ 14:27:00 Looks like a lot of active stuff still going on with that bug. 14:27:05 agoben: yeah, I think between berick and Dyrcona and others that there will be a resolution soonish 14:27:33 jamundson of CW MARS is looking at it as we type. 14:27:34 But very excited to see all the other patches going in this week. My subscription list is going to be significantly shrunk. 14:28:12 jamundson++ 14:28:20 Thanks again to everyone working on things! 14:28:32 Anything else on the dev front to chat about today? 14:29:12 #topic 2020 Conference Committee 14:29:22 tlittle? or terranm? 14:29:51 terranm has got it :) 14:29:59 Everything is on schedule. We're up to 107 full conference & 58 preconference registrants. Hopefully we'll get more. 14:30:27 The one problem is that we don't have as many sponsors as we expected. If more don't come through, we'll have to make some cuts to meals. 14:31:00 Changing from a full breakfast to continental is the most obvious place to make a significant cost cut. 14:31:34 We're low on room bookings, too. Hopefully those will go up the closer we get, but we may lose some of our discounts if we don't meet our minimum. 14:31:58 Well, I'm still waiting on my approval to register and get a room, so there's at least 1 more coming! 14:32:09 But, the conference schedule looks really good - lots of new topics! 14:32:09 i am too. 14:32:15 What is our target registration? 14:32:30 For rooms or attendees? 14:32:36 What if we got a room thats not in our block 14:32:39 Both, I guess 14:32:50 If it's not in the EIC block, it doesn't count towards our minimums. 14:33:09 We had targeted about 170 attendees. 14:33:32 mk 14:33:35 I don't recall the number of rooms, but I think I calculated we'd need about 35 more people getting 3 nights 14:33:43 That's rough. I got 3 single rooms instead of the double beds 14:34:07 My apologies. Didn't realize it affects our numbers 14:34:29 We might be closer on rooms now, the most recent number I have is from early last week. 14:34:49 Any other questions? 14:34:57 Appreciate the all of the committee's hard work on this! I know you're also putting in the fretting time so the rest of us don't have to! 14:35:03 :) 14:35:07 fretting-- 14:35:17 agreed. 14:35:34 terranm++ 14:36:18 terranm++ 14:36:25 #topic 2021 Site Selection 14:36:34 #info The MOBIUS proposal was approved, with concerns about the timeline. Many thanks to all three committees that reviewed and worked on getting the proposal dealt with. 14:37:30 Any questions about that today? 14:38:07 #topic Outreach Committee 14:38:14 rhamby_? You around? 14:38:15 meeting notes are available as usual on the wiki for outreach, we are looking at doing a collaboration with LITA, details still to be determined, work on the summer ALA session has started and I will be sending out the first "beta" version of the annual report later today for people to start editorial reviews on, that's all for outreach 14:38:21 I am :) 14:38:35 Sounds terrific! 14:38:39 Thanks! 14:38:56 Now for the big one: 14:38:57 #topic Unfinished Business: NPF Status - 1023 - Final draft approval 14:40:06 The final draft is in the board's drive folder; I originally posted it the day after our last meeting. I didnt' get any feedback on it from anyone on the committee so far. I'd like to get it submitted tomorrow. 14:40:57 Anyone looked over it since our last meeting and had anything to update? 14:41:27 I have no further updatese 14:41:55 Same here. 14:42:01 N, it looks good to me 14:42:10 Anyone willing to make a motion to go ahead with submission? 14:43:05 I'll make a motion to submit the 1023. 14:43:12 I'll second 14:43:28 Any further discussion? 14:45:02 #startvote Submit the current version of the 1023 to the IRS for review? yes, no, abstain 14:45:02 Begin voting on: Submit the current version of the 1023 to the IRS for review? Valid vote options are yes, no, abstain. 14:45:02 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 14:45:10 #vote yes 14:45:11 #vote yes 14:45:12 #vote yes 14:45:12 #vote yes 14:45:14 #vote yes 14:45:15 #vote yes 14:45:54 #vote yes 14:46:02 #endvote 14:46:02 Voted on "Submit the current version of the 1023 to the IRS for review?" Results are 14:46:02 yes (7): nfBurton, JBoyer, jvwoolf, Cowens, tlittle, gmcharlt, agoben 14:46:13 HUZZAH!!!! 14:46:38 Awesome. I'm looking forward to getting follow-up questions, which sounds strange, but hopefully means we're that much closer to the end 14:46:53 It's been a long road 14:47:25 #info agoben will coordinate with gmcharlt to electronically submit our 1023 application tomorrow (2020-02-21). 14:47:29 #topic Unfinished Business: 2020 Election 14:47:33 jvwoolf? 14:47:36 Woooo!!!! 14:48:11 We have two nominees, both are active community members who I'm sure would make excellent board members 14:48:27 We need at least one more, right? 14:48:43 Well, there are two slots 14:48:44 Or am I thinking about the wrong cycle? 14:49:11 Ah, ok. That's good. I forget which year is the 2-fer vs 4-fer 14:49:47 But that was going to be my question - do we still continue with the rest of the election process? 14:50:11 I believe they must be voted on under the bylaws. I didn't think the positions are appointed. 14:50:27 OK, I thought that might be the case. 14:51:15 I'm a little behind where I wanted to be, but will send an announcement to the list and start the voter registration process tomorrow. 14:51:15 Yup, 2.4.e 14:51:27 ++ 14:51:34 Thanks again for taking the lead on this! 14:51:40 jvwoolf++ 14:51:43 jvwoolf++ 14:52:24 #topic New Business 14:52:32 Anyone have any new business? 14:53:00 None here 14:53:05 No 14:53:07 none from me 14:53:11 None here 14:53:18 I was thinking we'd plan on starting to define a policy for request/review submissions to the committee at conference this year, since that will probably be easiest to start in person. 14:53:46 I think that sounds good. 14:53:52 Agreed 14:53:57 +1 14:54:09 +1 14:54:12 +1 14:54:14 That has come out of discussions from a couple of recent board reviews, but I don't think it's super critical to get that started at the momemnt. 14:54:27 I'll plan to put it on the agenda for our meeting then! 14:54:31 Only 2 months away anyways 14:54:34 Yup 14:54:41 (that's crazy) 14:54:46 yupp 14:55:00 I'm staying south for another week too. Much excites 14:55:04 :) 14:55:06 #topic Next meeting 14:55:06 #info Our next meeting will be on March 19, 2020. 14:55:21 jvwoolf is bringing hubby and baby 14:55:23 So we do have one more before the conference, but I imagine it'll be short work. 14:55:32 agoben++ 14:55:36 agoben++ 14:55:37 agoben++ 14:55:40 agoben++ 14:55:49 agoben++ 14:55:57 agoben++ 14:56:09 agoben++ 14:56:18 Thank you all! 14:56:19 #endmeeting