15:00:03 #startmeeting 2025-12-09 - Developer's Meeting 15:00:03 Meeting started Tue Dec 9 15:00:03 2025 US/Eastern. The chair is shulaprime. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:03 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:00:03 The meeting name has been set to '2025_12_09___developer_s_meeting' 15:00:14 #topic Intros 15:00:37 #info shulaprime = Shula Link, GCHRL for 22 more days 15:00:45 #info goood = Mike Rylander, EOLI 15:00:52 #info collum = Garry Collum, KCPL 15:01:03 #info jeffdavis = Jeff Davis, BC Libraries Coop (Sitka) 15:01:21 #info mdriscoll = Martha Driscoll, NOBLE 15:01:34 #info gmcharlt = Galen Charlton, Equinox 15:01:34 #info hdarcy = Hannah Darcy, new dev volunteer 15:01:54 phasefx = Jason Etheridge, Equinox 15:02:45 #info jeff = Jeff Godin, Traverse Area District Library (TADL) 15:03:22 Latecomers can continue to do intros as they come in. 15:03:32 #info briank = Brian Kennedy, BC Libraries Coop (Sitka) 15:03:41 #topic Action Items from Last Meeting 15:03:45 #topic eyes wanted on Redis Stream-based HA/LB branch (https://bugs.launchpad.net/opensrf/+bug/2116980) 15:03:46 Launchpad bug 2116980 in OpenSRF "Use Redis STREAMs for HA/LB" [Wishlist,New] 15:04:19 Do we have any commentary on this? 15:05:02 my dev system is happy with it... ;) 15:05:26 goood++ 15:05:34 "Works on [miker's] Machine!" 15:05:49 "quick, everybody grab that machine!' 15:05:58 And thus, Docker was born. 15:06:15 lol jeff++ for beating me to the joke. 15:06:22 ew, jeff. ew. 15:06:23 miker: is everything needed to test/eval included in that bug? 15:06:51 * jeff belatedly realizes why his attempts to tab-complete "miker" were failing... 15:07:26 jeff: should be, yes. the key is --reset-message-bus --hard to start 15:07:33 #info mmorgan = Michele Morgan, NOBLE 15:08:41 the vibe i'm getting is we should revisit this next month when there are more eyes; a situation i'm sure is likely during the holiday season ;) 15:09:13 seems likely, yeah 15:09:36 goood++ 15:09:42 #action eyes wanted on Redis Stream-based HA/LB branch (https://bugs.launchpad.net/opensrf/+bug/2116980) 15:09:43 Launchpad bug 2116980 in OpenSRF "Use Redis STREAMs for HA/LB" [Wishlist,New] 15:10:00 @later tell Dyrcona was your earlier redis test with my branch or current main? 15:10:00 goood: The operation succeeded. 15:10:15 (for the "more eyes" tally) 15:10:23 #topic csharp_ will look at Debian 13 compatibility 15:11:26 #info abneiman = Andrea Buntz Neiman, EOLI 15:11:43 since csharp_ doesn't appear to be here, this is another kick to next month 15:11:48 #action csharp_ will look at Debian 13 compatibility 15:12:07 #topic gmcharlt will issue call for 3.17 and 4.0 release teams right after 3.16.0 is relased 15:12:44 that will need to be punted, but just to an hour from now 15:12:51 i.e., I'll issue that call this afternoon 15:13:10 gmcharlt++ 15:13:32 #action gmcharlt will issue call for 3.17 and 4.0 release teams in an hour or so 15:13:46 #topic gmcharlt will raise a call for a working group to recommend translation infrastructure changes 15:13:59 again, tardy, but will do so today as well 15:14:24 #action gmcharlt will raise a call for a working group to recommend translation infrastructure changes 15:14:40 #topic gmcharlt will initiate thread/call to action on the GitHub transition 15:15:03 third verse, same as the first two? 15:15:05 :) 15:15:18 I'm very predictable today, it seems 15:15:36 no worries, it's that time of year 15:15:41 #action gmcharlt will initiate thread/call to action on the GitHub transition 15:15:59 #topic dluch will propose a session on bug-reporting tools and possible transitions for the 2026 Evergreen Conference 15:16:46 dluch is not around, it seems, so we punt 15:16:51 #action dluch will propose a session on bug-reporting tools and possible transitions for the 2026 Evergreen Conference 15:17:04 #topic Updates 15:17:13 What have we got to discuss? 15:17:53 if anything 15:20:06 judging from the silence, i'll take that as a no current discussion points. 15:20:17 and that means it's time for the wall of text 15:20:31 once again, mmorgan++ for getting the agenda together. 15:20:39 #topic Launchpad Status (as of noon Eastern) 15:20:40 #topic Snapshot 15:20:40 #info Open Bugs - 3327 15:20:41 #info Pullrequests - 118 15:20:41 #info Signedoff - 17 15:20:42 #info Needswork - 100 15:20:42 #info Needstestplan - 2 15:20:43 #info Needsrebase - 23 15:20:43 #topic Updates Since Last Meeting 15:20:44 #info Bugs Added - 40 15:20:44 #info Pullrequest tag Added - 21 15:20:45 #info Signedoff tag Added - 10 15:20:45 #info Needswork tag Added - 0 15:20:46 #info Needstestplan tag Added - 0 15:20:46 #info Needsrebase tag Added - 1 15:20:47 #info Fix Committed - 29 15:21:11 #topic New Business 15:21:14 #topic Release team needed for December point releases 3.16.2, 3.15.8, due Dec. 31 - sign up on the Buildmaster Spreadsheet 15:21:38 #info Buildmaster Spreadsheet link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aKffVGU_vIWbtFR_vpoHsqodSw-Kdd5yn65RpfkMKKA/edit?usp=sharing 15:21:58 any other new business? 15:22:12 * mmorgan is wondering if point releases should be delayed. 12/31 isn't a great date for releasing. 15:22:33 I think that's an error and they're actually expected 12/17 15:22:54 agreeed 15:23:11 (Evergreen: The Bubbly Release, anyone?) 15:23:19 Oh, indeed. Guess I'm not good at reading calendars! 15:23:33 says 12/17 on the spreadsheet, so that seems like a definite error 15:23:39 a bottle for every member of the release team, what could possibly go wrong 15:23:57 Someone else can load that release first! 15:24:04 anyway I'm willing to wrangle for a 12/17 release but I have other plans on 12/31 ;-) 15:24:38 abneiman++ 15:25:06 They're only regressions if they're from the Regression region of France. Otherwise they're just sparkling bugs. 15:25:10 I've signed up for the the building-related tasks for 3.16.2; I can do it for 3.15.8 as well but would prefer that the work be more spread out 15:25:31 * mmorgan can do the translations for 3.15.8. 15:25:34 jeff++ 15:25:57 jeff++ mmorgan++ gmcharlt++ 15:26:06 gmcharlt++ mmorgan++ 15:26:20 I'll give another day or two for other volunteers then I'll send out an email 15:26:35 * mdriscoll will test tarballs 15:26:37 mdriscoll++ 15:26:40 abneiman++ sounds like a plan 15:26:44 mdriscoll++ 15:28:30 #info abneiman will request volunteers if willing subjects do not step forward 15:28:45 #topic Announcements 15:29:04 #topic Next Meeting -- 2026-01-13 15:29:53 anything more at present? 15:30:47 then with the power vested in me... 15:30:51 #endmeeting