14:05:22 <remingtron> #startmeeting 2019-04-11 – Documentation Interest Group Meeting
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14:05:48 <remingtron> #topic Introductions
14:06:13 <sandbergja> #info sandbergja is Jane Sandberg, Linn-Benton Community College
14:06:15 <remingtron> Any docs interested people, please introduce yourselves!
14:06:30 <remingtron> #info remingtron is Remington Steed, Hekman Library (Calvin College)
14:06:40 <jihpringle> #info jihpringle is Jennifer Pringle, BC Libraries Cooperative (Sitka)
14:07:15 <abneiman> #info abneiman is Andrea Buntz Neiman, Equinox
14:07:28 <remingtron> Welcome folks!
14:08:34 <sandbergja> remingtron++ # getting us back together!
14:08:57 <remingtron> sandbergja++ # poking me for the meeting
14:09:13 <remingtron> sandbergja: any agenda topics? anyone have questions they want to discuss?
14:09:47 <abneiman> do we have a facilitator for the hackfest / interest group at the conference?
14:09:53 <abneiman> I know there was some back-n-forth
14:10:11 <sandbergja> I am facilitating the interest group meeting
14:10:20 <abneiman> sandbergja++
14:10:48 <sandbergja> And I'm feeling like there are going to be enough experienced DIG members there during both morning and afternoon hackfest that natural facilitators can emerge as needed
14:11:31 <abneiman> ok, cool
14:11:50 <sandbergja> Actually, wait.  Katie is facilitating the afternoon session officially.
14:12:13 <sandbergja> So it will just be kind of amorphous in the morning, which I think is fine
14:12:49 <abneiman> thanks!  there were lots of threads and I couldn't recall how it all ended up
14:12:52 <Bmagic> #info Bmagic is Blake GH, MOBIUS
14:12:59 <remingtron> welcome Bmagic!
14:13:03 <Bmagic> TY
14:13:11 <sandbergja> As far as the Docs Interest Group meeting at the conference, I was wanting to do some "future of the docs" type activity
14:13:31 <sandbergja> To dream big about what the ideal docs might be, and start strategizing about how we get there
14:13:49 <sandbergja> but I'm very open to other agenda items too!
14:14:39 <remingtron> sandbergja: sounds cool, may stir up more interest
14:15:37 <Bmagic> We started using Antora as a front end for our docs. Might put that on the list of "dreaming"
14:16:56 <remingtron> Antora looks cool, hadn't heard of it until now
14:17:10 <sandbergja> Bmagic: Cool!  Would you be able to do a brief demo at the DIG meeting at the conference?
14:17:22 <Bmagic> sure, lol, not sure
14:17:37 <sandbergja> hahaha
14:18:05 <Bmagic> I can show something
14:18:14 <sandbergja> That would be fantastic!
14:18:48 <sandbergja> Maybe another discussion topic for today: how are we going to get a new DIG facilitator? :-)
14:19:00 <sandbergja> Since ohiojoe sadly had to step down. :-(
14:21:19 <sandbergja> ...and crickets
14:21:28 <abneiman> well it's certainly something that should be mentioned before / during the hackfest, to see if anyone's interested (hopefully there will be more people than the few of us here now)
14:21:33 <abneiman> sorry, slow typer :)
14:21:38 <sandbergja> no worries!
14:22:12 <abneiman> do any of you have someone in mind who may be interested and willing to step up?
14:23:14 <sandbergja> I have people in mind, for sure, but I have no idea how interested and available they are, hahaha
14:23:16 <remingtron> maybe we need a job description
14:23:18 <abneiman> and is the thought that the Facilitator will continue a la Joe in sending meeting reminders/setting agendas/running meetings, or is there a vision for a larger role?
14:23:19 <Bmagic> what's the job description?
14:23:29 <abneiman> yeah, exactly what I'm getting at
14:23:35 <sandbergja> I think it's on the wiki somewhere
14:23:54 <sandbergja> #link https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:digparticipants&s[]=facilitator&s[]=dig
14:24:32 <Bmagic> oh boy, that looks like a lot
14:24:36 <remingtron> I bet people would be more willing to consider it if they known "all you have to do is organize meetings", or whatever
14:25:01 <Bmagic> nevermind, lol, I see it's broken down
14:25:04 <remingtron> seems like our biggest need is an organizer, and/or motivator
14:25:15 <remingtron> doesn't need to be a technical person, right?
14:25:42 <abneiman> I wouldn't think it needs to be a technical person, just an organized person
14:25:48 <sandbergja> Correct!  I know yboston did a lot of emphasis on training in asciidoc and other more technical sides, but I don't think that's necessary
14:26:37 <Bmagic> dluch might be interested
14:26:50 <sandbergja> !!!!!!!!
14:26:55 <sandbergja> dluch would be awesome
14:27:16 <remingtron> I'd vote for dluch
14:27:16 <abneiman> can you sound her out, Bmagic?
14:27:30 <Bmagic> Debbie Luchenbill
14:27:52 <Bmagic> It's funny, I have her in slack and you all in IRC
14:28:01 <Bmagic> ALT-tab FTW
14:29:17 <Bmagic> anyway....
14:29:52 <Bmagic> ha! She just said she would do it!
14:30:00 <Bmagic> The pressure was too high
14:30:16 <Bmagic> and she is trying to get logged in here
14:30:20 <remingtron> hurray!
14:30:23 <sandbergja> dluch++
14:30:25 <jihpringle> dluch++
14:30:33 <sandbergja> pressuring_people++
14:30:57 <abneiman> dluch++
14:31:03 <Bmagic> dluch++
14:33:15 <Bmagic> I hope you all aren't waiting for her to connect.. oh there she is
14:33:20 <sandbergja> Welcome, dluch!
14:33:31 <dluch> Hiya, everyone!  Sorry to be late
14:33:38 <remingtron> dluch++
14:33:53 <Bmagic> @karma dluch
14:33:53 <pinesol> Bmagic: Karma for "dluch" has been increased 7 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 7.
14:34:15 <remingtron> dluch: thanks for stepping in as facilitator!
14:34:25 <Bmagic> @karma pressuring_people
14:34:25 <pinesol> Bmagic: Karma for "pressuring_people" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1.
14:34:30 <dluch> You're welcome!  My pleasure.  :-)
14:35:16 <sandbergja> Is there anything you'd like to talk about, dluch?
14:35:31 <dluch> #info dluch is Debbie Luchenbill, MOBIUS
14:35:31 <sandbergja> Or any other agenda items?
14:36:06 <dluch> Lol, unfortunately, I couldn't get connected through Quassel, so I don't actually know what you've already talked about...through the agenda already?
14:36:24 <remingtron> dluch: no formal agenda today
14:36:48 <sandbergja> we talked about getting a new facilitator (yay!) and planning for the DIG presence at the conference
14:36:53 <dluch> Ah.  That explains why I can't find it, lol
14:37:03 <jihpringle> do we want to talk about 3.3 docs?
14:37:15 <sandbergja> good idea!
14:37:45 <dluch> Excellent.  @sandbergja, you all are set for DIG hackfest at the conference?
14:37:55 <dluch> Ooo, yes. 3.3 docs!
14:38:22 <sandbergja> A lot of admin interfaces have been transitioned to Angular in 3.3
14:38:32 <sandbergja> which would require a lot of new screenshots
14:38:57 <sandbergja> My colleague Clare is doing some screenshots for the new Angular MARC Batch Import/Export
14:39:13 <sandbergja> but probably booking admin, server admin, and acq admin could use new screenshots
14:39:33 <dluch> Is that something we can work on during the hackfest?
14:39:45 <sandbergja> And we should also plan how we are going to document the new experimental staff-only catalog
14:39:58 <dluch> (In addition to what folks are doing individually...)
14:40:02 <sandbergja> I think that would be a great activity for someone at the hackfest!
14:40:24 <sandbergja> Especially if somebody is coming in without a set idea of what they want to do at the hackfest
14:40:41 <dluch> Yes!
14:40:52 <dluch> (like me, lol)
14:41:31 <sandbergja> same; I hadn't really thought that far ahead. :-)
14:42:11 <dluch> @jihpringle was there something specific about 3.3 docs you wanted to talk about?
14:42:12 <pinesol> dluch: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
14:42:14 <abneiman> maybe a short, easily-accessible list of things for people looking for hackfest activities?
14:42:37 <jihpringle> not really, I just noticed the other day that we didn't have them and 3.3 is out
14:42:53 <sandbergja> jihpringle: oh, good point!
14:43:14 <sandbergja> I can email Robert and ask him to set that up on the Web site
14:43:36 <remingtron> sandbergja: I have an email written
14:43:42 <remingtron> I'll send it momentarily
14:43:44 <sandbergja> remingtron++
14:43:53 <dluch> remingtron++
14:43:54 <pinesol> [evergreen|Remington Steed] Docs: Point to release notes for new version 3.3 - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=adf699f>
14:44:52 <jihpringle> maybe something for everyone to do as we're able is update https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:documentation_needs before the conference
14:45:13 <sandbergja> remingtron and I already updated the big list of doc needs
14:45:33 <jihpringle> sandbergja++ remingtron++
14:45:48 <remingtron> jihpringle: great idea, though, to use that as the master list
14:45:50 <dluch> Oh, awesome!
14:45:52 <sandbergja> And I took some of the more comprehensive 3.3 release notes and just added them to the docs
14:45:59 <dluch> sandbergja++ remingtron++
14:46:04 <remingtron> any new "easy" docs tasks for the hackfest can go there
14:46:06 <sandbergja> So, we have a start at documenting 3.3
14:46:20 <remingtron> sandbergja++
14:47:05 <remingtron> keep in mind, Sitka is using AsciiDoc now, so it's easy to borrow from their docs
14:47:34 <remingtron> but maybe that's just for 3.1 and previous
14:48:09 <jihpringle> we'll be moving to 3.3 but not until the fall
14:48:56 <jihpringle> but please borrow anything that can fill in gaps from our docs :)
14:49:55 <dluch> jihpringle++
14:50:51 <sandbergja> I have to head out in a minute or two
14:51:06 <sandbergja> anything else on the agenda?
14:51:27 <sandbergja> the informal agenda, that is
14:51:48 <dluch> Not from me
14:52:08 <jihpringle> not from me either
14:52:57 <sandbergja> dluch: thanks again for agreeing to facilitate!  Feel free to reach out if you have any questions about it
14:55:48 <Bmagic> antora! antora! antora!
14:57:00 <remingtron> Bmagic: what do you like about antora?
14:57:14 <Bmagic> the resulting web interface
14:58:00 <Bmagic> nav menu, easy to style and brand. And it makes sense in the git repo. It forces a bit of organization. It has a notion of "modules" which could be "circ", "cat", "booking" etc
14:59:18 <Bmagic> I could start a branch.....
15:01:14 <remingtron> Bmagic: that would be awesome....
15:01:24 <dluch> #endmeeting
15:01:25 <dluch> sorry
15:02:23 <Bmagic> :)
15:02:24 <remingtron> #chair dluch
15:02:24 <pinesol> Current chairs: dluch remingtron
15:02:37 <remingtron> ha, now dluch can end the meeting (if she wants)
15:02:50 <dluch> #endmeeting