15:08:02 <abneiman> #startmeeting 2026-05-12 - Development Meeting
15:08:02 <pinesol> abneiman: Meeting started at 2026-05-12T15:08-0400
15:08:03 <pinesol> abneiman: Current chairs: abneiman
15:08:04 <pinesol> abneiman: Useful commands: #action #info #idea #link #topic #motion #vote #close #endmeeting
15:08:05 <pinesol> abneiman: See also: https://hcoop-meetbot.readthedocs.io/en/stable/
15:08:06 <pinesol> abneiman: Participants should now identify themselves with '#here' or with an alias like '#here FirstLast'
15:08:19 <abneiman> heey cheers to y'all who migrated / rebuilt pinesol
15:08:39 <abneiman> anyway, the (blank) agenda is here: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2026-05-12
15:08:48 <abneiman> #topic Introductions
15:08:54 <abneiman> please introduce yourself using #info
15:09:01 <abneiman> #info abneiman, Andrea Buntz Neiman, EOLI
15:09:13 <jeff> #info jeff = Jeff Godin, Traverse Area District Library (TADL)
15:09:27 <smoody43> #info smoody43, Sarah Moody, ECDI
15:10:15 <abneiman> awake, ye IRC denizens, and come forth!
15:10:26 <abneiman> anyway, if you come in later, please introduce yourself then
15:10:35 <abneiman> #topic Action items from last meeting
15:10:40 <smayo> #info smayo, Steven Mayo, PINES
15:10:48 <abneiman> #info There are no action items recorded on the agenda
15:11:09 <abneiman> #topic Updates - Release Info - Evergreen
15:11:18 <abneiman> #info 3.17-rc was cut last week
15:11:22 <abneiman> gmcharlt++
15:11:34 <abneiman> #info 3.17.0 is, as far as I know, due out tomorrow
15:11:37 <jeff> gmcharlt++
15:11:42 <abneiman> does anyone have information to the contrary?
15:11:46 <gmcharlt> #info gmcharlt = Galen Charlton , Equinox
15:11:53 <gmcharlt> I confirm that it will go out tomorrow
15:11:54 <abneiman> I HAVE SUMMONED THE GALEN
15:12:07 <abneiman> #info confirmed that 3.17.0 will be released tomorrow
15:12:22 <abneiman> anything else on 3.17?
15:12:34 <gmcharlt> while I expect that 3.17.1 will include a fair amount of fixups from the Angular 21 update, I'm generally confident that they won't be huge
15:12:48 <abneiman> good to know, thanks gmcharlt
15:13:00 <abneiman> also in releases ...
15:13:09 <abneiman> #topic Point Releases
15:13:33 <abneiman> these are due next Wednesday 20th
15:14:01 <abneiman> I had noted that last month was likely the last 3.15 release, but there are many things committed to 3.15.13: https://launchpad.net/evergreen/+milestone/3.15.13
15:14:19 <abneiman> so do we want to cut 3.15.13 as the final non-security release of 3.15? or leave it be?
15:14:41 <abneiman> I await your voluminous opinions.
15:15:45 <abneiman> and, if anyone wants to sign up for point releases, the sheet is here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aKffVGU_vIWbtFR_vpoHsqodSw-Kdd5yn65RpfkMKKA/edit?usp=sharing
15:16:13 <abneiman> smoody43: since you and I talked about working together on some things, please feel free to add yourself where you see my name if you'd like to shoulder surf :)
15:16:23 <gmcharlt> I'm willing to help cut 3.15.13 as the final non-security release
15:16:32 <abneiman> thank you, gmcharlt++
15:16:55 <abneiman> I am also willing to help with 3.15.13 and I think it would be good to get those fixes out there.
15:17:03 <abneiman> Are there any opinions against?
15:17:04 <smoody43> abneiman: will do!
15:17:15 <jeff> none here.
15:17:32 <abneiman> righto
15:18:07 <abneiman> #info 3.16.7 and 3.15.13 will be cut next week on May 20 as planned. 3.15.13 will be the final non-security release for 3.15 series.
15:18:18 <abneiman> #info please sign yourselves up: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aKffVGU_vIWbtFR_vpoHsqodSw-Kdd5yn65RpfkMKKA/edit?usp=sharing
15:18:48 <abneiman> anything further on releases?
15:19:30 <abneiman> dluch, if you're about, anything for docs?
15:20:24 <abneiman> next up
15:20:31 <abneiman> #topic Launchpad Stats
15:21:03 <abneiman> #info if someone would like to update these in the agenda, go wild
15:21:13 <abneiman> #topic New Business
15:21:18 <abneiman> any new biz?
15:22:08 <abneiman> Bmagic or csharp_ or Dyrcona, are any of you available to talk about the updates you made to various servers & certificates?
15:23:29 <abneiman> #info Bmagic, csharp_, and Dyrcona made updates to various servers and certificates, ++'s to all of themoo
15:23:49 <abneiman> "themoo" = courtesy of a keyboard attack attempt by cat
15:23:58 <abneiman> anything further?
15:25:08 <abneiman> hearing none
15:25:44 <abneiman> #info Next meeting is Tuesday, June 9 2026, same bat time, same bat channel
15:25:49 <abneiman> #endmeeting 
15:26:22 <abneiman> hmm, maybe the bot doesn't know that one
15:26:29 <abneiman> anyway, thanks for playing along.
15:27:08 <smoody43> thanks andrea!  will be in touch to shoulder surf!
15:27:21 <abneiman> smoody43++ sounds good!
15:29:51 <Bmagic> sorry I missed it
15:29:59 <Bmagic> abneiman++
15:30:09 <Dyrcona> I missed it, too. abneiman++
15:30:32 <Bmagic> I checked from my phone at 2 and the meeting hadn't started, so I figured it was getting skipped
15:37:46 <Dyrcona> Gah. Internal Server Error.....
15:39:07 <jeff> I suspect that the meeting is still ongoing.
15:39:22 <jeff> @listmeetings
15:39:22 <pinesol> jeff: #evergreen/libera@2026-05-12T19:08+0000
15:39:28 <jeff> @addchair jeff
15:39:28 <pinesol> jeff: jeff is now the primary chair for #evergreen/libera@2026-05-12T19:08+0000
15:39:31 <jeff> #endmeeting 
15:41:35 <jeff> @listmeetings
15:41:35 <pinesol> jeff: #evergreen/libera@2026-05-12T19:08+0000
15:42:31 <jeff> well, it's ignoring #endmeeting for unknown reasons. i can break out the @savemeetings hammer, unless someone more involved in the work thus far has a different idea. let me know!
15:44:21 <jeff> seems it plays it safe, and won't end the meeting if it can't write things to disk. I doubt that savemeetings will work any better, and might even be worse.
15:45:06 <Dyrcona> Is it ignoring #endmeeting or does it just not report the URLs, now?
15:45:25 <Dyrcona> #endmeeting 
15:46:16 <jeff> #addchair Dyrcona
15:46:16 <pinesol> jeff: Unknown command: #addchair
15:46:21 <jeff> #chair Dyrcona
15:46:21 <pinesol> jeff: Current chairs: Dyrcona, abneiman, jeff
15:46:26 <jeff> sorry, thinko there.
15:46:34 <Dyrcona> #endmeeting 
15:46:43 <Dyrcona> @listmeetings
15:46:43 <pinesol> Dyrcona: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
15:47:03 <jeff> you're welcome to try, but I suspect that there's an exception writing to disk, thus the ignoring.
15:47:24 <jeff> permission issue seems more likely than space at this point.
15:47:34 <Dyrcona> yeahp.
15:47:49 <Dyrcona> I'm busy figuring out how I broke OpenAPI.
15:51:27 <Dyrcona> Well the dispatch log says there were no errors.
15:54:01 <Dyrcona> osrfStringArrayAdd size is too large
15:55:19 <Dyrcona> Also some stuff about Geo::Coder::Google not being installed.
15:58:43 <Dyrcona> Think I found my problem. I renamed the controller module, but forgot to change the package name. Bet this fixes it.
15:59:13 <jeff> yes, filesystem permission issue.
15:59:29 <bshum> jeff++ # bot wrangling
15:59:40 <jeff> bshum: I saw you in there. :-)
15:59:48 <bshum> Just peeking :)
16:00:03 <Dyrcona> jeff++
16:00:53 <bshum> new pinesol is curmudgeony I guess.  Needs more fresh pine infusion ;)
16:01:36 <jeff> #endmeeting